It is in my opinion that this site has become hyper focused on 2 things. The first, Americans vs Brits and second floyd issues. I could give a shit about the latter because most of the flamboyant Floyd nuthuggers are 17 year old punk kids who don't box nor know who Pernell Whitaker or Jerry Quarry is.
Next the issue with the Americans vs Brits. Yes it is good to root for your home team boxers but my stance is you cannot be a true fan of boxing and dislike someone because of their heritage skin etc... I am officially going on the record for all american boxing fans to state that Joe Calzaghe is and will go down as an all time great. Call him Calslappy whatever you want but the guy has been undefeated for 15 years. FIFTEEN YEARS and has beat ALL the best in Britain and some of our best. Remember Hopkins will go down in the record books as an all time great and already is in the top 100 on most historians books. So give me a reason why a guy who is undefeated for 15 years and comes back after a knockdown to defeat an all time great is not an all time great? The answer is pure and simple, racism and bias toward ones countrymen.
I will also add that Ricky Hatton has had a great career and ran into a fighter that will go down as one of if not the greatest pound for pound fighter of all time. (see my sig since day one, not a fan of Floyd at all) So, in closing I would like to plea with everyone on here to remember something we are all here to talk about boxing and enjoy different perspectives about the game. I really enjoy this forum and look at it everyday and it really has started to go down hill with all the anti American anti Brit etc sentiments every other thread. I am here to give us pompous Americans a good name and let everyone else know that I am here to respond objectively and hope others will start to.
Best British fighter to have never won a title....hahahahaahhahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah.......................................hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh
Do you have a stance on anyone or are you just anti Brit and trying to cause a ruckus with whoever will listen? How about something intelligent for a change buddy?
Best British fighter to have never won a title....hahahahaahhahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah.......................................hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh
hes back again...
indiana livedog and the crusaders of the lost arseache
was it really that funny or does wearing lipstick,high heels and a ra ra skirt bring out the fun time girl in you....
ah yea true my mistake, he was the best british fighter never to win a title so they say :D
Best British fighter to have never won a title....hahahahaahhahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahah.......................................hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahh
Charlie Magri - Flyweight
Stephney, London (35-5-0) 23 KOs; 1983 WBC Champion
Dave McAuley - Flyweight
Northern Ireland (23-3-2) 9 KOs; 1989 IBF Champion
Walter McGowan - Flyweight
Hamilton, Scotland (40-7-1) 14 KOs; 1966 WBC Champion
Jim Watt - Lightweight
Glasgow, Scotland (38-8-0) 27 KOs; WBC Lightweight Champion 1979–1981
I can't be arsed to post more with there records so just have some names lol
Terry Marsh
Ricky Hatton
Dave Green
Maurice Hope
Colin Jones
John Stracey
Terry Downes
Herol Graham
Alan Minter
John Bugner
Chris Finnegan
Freddie Mills
Dennis Andries
Joe Calzaghe
Glen McCory
Johnny Nelson
There are many more who have held world titles, we don't do to badly at all!
Herol Graham never won a world title. Sorry to be pedantic. Other than that, very informative.
Odd, I am a fan of Floyd, and I don't think he'll go down as one of the best ever. Maybe top 30.
Oh yeah, fuck the Brits.
The only Floyd fan with some PBCS.
Charlie Magri - Flyweight
Stephney, London (35-5-0) 23 KOs; 1983 WBC Champion
Dave McAuley - Flyweight
Northern Ireland (23-3-2) 9 KOs; 1989 IBF Champion
Walter McGowan - Flyweight
Hamilton, Scotland (40-7-1) 14 KOs; 1966 WBC Champion
Jim Watt - Lightweight
Glasgow, Scotland (38-8-0) 27 KOs; WBC Lightweight Champion 1979–1981
I can't be arsed to post more with there records so just have some names lol
Terry Marsh
Ricky Hatton
Dave Green
Maurice Hope
Colin Jones
John Stracey
Terry Downes
Herol Graham
Alan Minter
John Bugner
Chris Finnegan
Freddie Mills
Dennis Andries
Joe Calzaghe
Glen McCory
Johnny Nelson
There are many more who have held world titles, we don't do to badly at all!
preciate the effort there kid,i agree we dont.
Nigel Benn, Middleweight 1990, 1992-96
Chris Eubank, Middleweight 1990-91, 1991-95
Frank Bruno, Heavyweight 1995-1996
Lennox Lewis, Heavyweight 1993-1994, 1997-2001, 2001-2004
David Haye, Cruiserweight 2007
I recognize those guys above, but thats it..
Now should I post up how many world champions we've had and have?
If you were to take the population base of England, compared to the US and did a little per capita math, you'd probably see (haven't done the math myself) that they stand up reasonably well to the US, as far as champions per capita. Whether that's the case or not, though, like someone else mentioned earlier....boxing is primarily a US sport, at least over the last hundred years or so, though that's changing slowly. Sort of like the Canadians almost always winning ice hockey championships. No brainer.
Nigel Benn, Middleweight 1990, 1992-96
Chris Eubank, Middleweight 1990-91, 1991-95
Frank Bruno, Heavyweight 1995-1996
Lennox Lewis, Heavyweight 1993-1994, 1997-2001, 2001-2004
David Haye, Cruiserweight 2007
I recognize those guys above, but thats it..
Now should I post up how many world champions we've had and have?
did you read my previous posts??
yes please do..
im sure you have plenty of free time,whereas i just copy and paste!!
chew on this......The early 1900s saw America dominate the sport but there were a handful of British fighters who made an impact on the boxing world.
London produced several world champions including George ‘Digger’ Stanley (World Bantamweight Champion 1910), Bill Ladbury (World Flyweight Champion 1913) and Teddy Baldock (World Bantamweight Champion 1927). In 1956 East London boxer Terry Spinks won the flyweight gold in Melbourne.
1960 was the year Cassius Clay, later Muhammad Ali, had his first professional fight and became the world's most famous boxer and sportsman. The United States held many of the boxing titles during the latter part of the 20th Century but several London fighters did claim world titles. They included;
Terry Downes, Middleweight 1961
John H. Stracey, Welterweight 1975-76
Charlie Magri, Flyweight 1983
Lloyd Honeyghan, Welterweight 1986
Terry Marsh, Light-Welterweight 1987
Duke McKenzie, Fly, Bantam & Super Bantamweight 1988-93
Nigel Benn, Middleweight 1990, 1992-96
Chris Eubank, Middleweight 1990-91, 1991-95
Frank Bruno, Heavyweight 1995-1996
Lennox Lewis, Heavyweight 1993-1994, 1997-2001, 2001-2004
David Haye, Cruiserweight 2007
Ted 'Kid' Lewis (1894 - 1970), Getty Images
Ted 'Kid' Lewis
One of the greatest English fighters of the early 1900s was Ted 'Kid' Lewis from London's East End. Lewis, who was born Gershon Mendeloff, had his first fight at fourteen and went on to win the World Welterweight Championship in 1915 when he beat American Jack Britton - the first of twenty epic fights between them. 'Kid' Lewis had a total of 279 bouts and was the first Britain to make an impact in America. He also won many more British, European, Empire and World titles.
Henry Cooper
The 1900s were particularly bleak for the British Heavyweight division but one fighter came very close to making an impact on the American domination.
At Wembley Stadium on June 18 1963, toward the end of the fourth round, Henry Cooper hit Cassius Clay with one of the best left hooks seen at the famous stadium. Clay went down but managed to get up and back to his corner as the bell sounded for the end of the round. Clay was given extra time to recover after a split glove needed attention and he then went on to win in the fifth. The title rematch at Highbury in 1966 also saw Cooper retire with cuts in the sixth round.
Heavyweights
It took until 1993 for Britain to win a World Heavyweight title when London born Lennox Lewis won the WBC Heavyweight Championship where he defeated Tony Tucker in Las Vegas. Lewis was in fact awarded the belt before this fight but this was his first fight as Champion.
Lennox Lewis in action (Getty Images)
Lewis defended his title three times before losing it to Oliver McCall in September 1994. He regained heavyweight titles in 1997, 1998 and beat Evander Holyfield in 1999 after their first bout was controversially called a draw. He went on to beat Mike Tyson and is regarded as one of the best heavyweight boxers of his time.
Other British champions during the 20th Century were Frank Bruno (WBC champion, 1995-1996) who won the title from Oliver McCall in 1995 to fulfil his dream of becoming world champion, Henry Akinwande (WBO champion, 1996-1997) and Herbie Hide (WBO champion, 1994-1995, 1997-1999).
Nigel Benn, Middleweight 1990, 1992-96
Chris Eubank, Middleweight 1990-91, 1991-95
Frank Bruno, Heavyweight 1995-1996
Lennox Lewis, Heavyweight 1993-1994, 1997-2001, 2001-2004
David Haye, Cruiserweight 2007
I recognize those guys above, but thats it..
Now should I post up how many world champions we've had and have?
The French? Are they still an actual country? I thought they surrendered to an Austrian girl scout troop back in the early 1990's and were just supposed to be selling cookies and spreading goodwill these days.
penitnenaryry
terrible stutter you have there....
i have a speech therapist my 4 year old uses,would you like her number
or shall i pass you onto alcoholics anonymous....
do you people get nothing....
i was being sarcastic and facescious..
its called the joys of copy n paste!!!
its called dangling the retards on a string and sticking the needle in there ear
at least you picked it up.....
still, better than smallpox
stay indoors for the sake of humanity.
penitnenaryry
I'm not sure which side you are arguing for?
do you people get nothing....
i was being sarcastic and facescious..
its called the joys of copy n paste!!!
its called dangling the retards on a string and sticking the needle in there ear
at least you picked it up.....
still, better than smallpox
stay indoors for the sake of humanity.
There are many thing the English have accomplished in the last 2000 years. Many of these are things to be proud of, many others aren't. Just like any other country, though the good tends to greatly outweigh the bad, in England's case, especially in the last 100 years.
Personally, I've very much liked most Englishmen I've known. Never seen one back down from a fight (or a pint), fierce loyalty, a little touchy when teased politically, maybe, but all in all a good steady crowd....men I never had to worry about watching my back around, if you know what I mean. But these were all military men, very different from your average Londoner, I suspect.
Having said all that, what's the actual point of threads like this? Everybody should be proud of their country, heritage, etc. but I can't see any reason to trash talk another man's country over a frigging sport. I haven't followed any of the aforementioned discussions, but are they as bad as people say? If so, maybe the should've been locked down or ignored.
You are way to rational to be in this thread.
chew on this......The early 1900s saw America dominate the sport but there were a handful of British fighters who made an impact on the boxing world.
London produced several world champions including George ‘Digger’ Stanley (World Bantamweight Champion 1910), Bill Ladbury (World Flyweight Champion 1913) and Teddy Baldock (World Bantamweight Champion 1927). In 1956 East London boxer Terry Spinks won the flyweight gold in Melbourne.
1960 was the year Cassius Clay, later Muhammad Ali, had his first professional fight and became the world's most famous boxer and sportsman. The United States held many of the boxing titles during the latter part of the 20th Century but several London fighters did claim world titles. They included;
Terry Downes, Middleweight 1961
John H. Stracey, Welterweight 1975-76
Charlie Magri, Flyweight 1983
Lloyd Honeyghan, Welterweight 1986
Terry Marsh, Light-Welterweight 1987
Duke McKenzie, Fly, Bantam & Super Bantamweight 1988-93
Nigel Benn, Middleweight 1990, 1992-96
Chris Eubank, Middleweight 1990-91, 1991-95
Frank Bruno, Heavyweight 1995-1996
Lennox Lewis, Heavyweight 1993-1994, 1997-2001, 2001-2004
David Haye, Cruiserweight 2007
Ted 'Kid' Lewis (1894 - 1970), Getty Images
Ted 'Kid' Lewis
One of the greatest English fighters of the early 1900s was Ted 'Kid' Lewis from London's East End. Lewis, who was born Gershon Mendeloff, had his first fight at fourteen and went on to win the World Welterweight Championship in 1915 when he beat American Jack Britton - the first of twenty epic fights between them. 'Kid' Lewis had a total of 279 bouts and was the first Britain to make an impact in America. He also won many more British, European, Empire and World titles.
Henry Cooper
The 1900s were particularly bleak for the British Heavyweight division but one fighter came very close to making an impact on the American domination.
At Wembley Stadium on June 18 1963, toward the end of the fourth round, Henry Cooper hit Cassius Clay with one of the best left hooks seen at the famous stadium. Clay went down but managed to get up and back to his corner as the bell sounded for the end of the round. Clay was given extra time to recover after a split glove needed attention and he then went on to win in the fifth. The title rematch at Highbury in 1966 also saw Cooper retire with cuts in the sixth round.
Heavyweights
It took until 1993 for Britain to win a World Heavyweight title when London born Lennox Lewis won the WBC Heavyweight Championship where he defeated Tony Tucker in Las Vegas. Lewis was in fact awarded the belt before this fight but this was his first fight as Champion.
Lennox Lewis in action (Getty Images)
Lewis defended his title three times before losing it to Oliver McCall in September 1994. He regained heavyweight titles in 1997, 1998 and beat Evander Holyfield in 1999 after their first bout was controversially called a draw. He went on to beat Mike Tyson and is regarded as one of the best heavyweight boxers of his time.
Other British champions during the 20th Century were Frank Bruno (WBC champion, 1995-1996) who won the title from Oliver McCall in 1995 to fulfil his dream of becoming world champion, Henry Akinwande (WBO champion, 1996-1997) and Herbie Hide (WBO champion, 1994-1995, 1997-1999).
What no John Conteh???
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