Hatton vs Lazcano gate 12 Million Us Dollars

Even Oscar has said Ricky is the biggest draw in boxing right now. Give ricky hatton a stadium of 150,000 and it would sell out and sell out within a day. Mayweather can only dream of doing this, i think he should get more support but he goes round acting like a prick so never gonna happen. Give Oscar a Stadium of 150,000 and would it sell? I don't think it would but he is still second to hatton. No one else even touches them.

hatton is the biggest draw. proud to be british!

Do you not remember the Castillo fight? there were over 10,000 brits in the arena how could you NOT hear them? because he probably put his tv on mute

the de la hoya fight was far from sold out.. masses of room on the pitch. They would have put more seats in if the demand was there. I am a massive fan of De la hoya so i aint bashing. but at the end of the day this argument is shyte.. simply put.. if around the world de la hoya, floyd, hatton, pac, all had fights against b- fighters (on the same night) then Hatton wins hands down.

Although he'll never be as popular as Hatton, Calzaghe now has a huge fan-base, particularly of fans who are coming back to the sport as part of boxing's recent resurgence. The right fighter and Calzaghe could easily sell out 55K stadiums, but even against a relatively average opponent he could likely do 35K these days. Which is nothing to be sneezed at.

this shows who the draw is. which is why floyd will only fight known boxers cause he knows anyone else and people wont care to go see him fight or even tune in. it shows who is the overhyped fighter

Dios has picked a really silly argument to get embroiled in here. Lets put it this way. Say that Hatton sold more tickets in the arena for the Floyd fight...cos he did. Say that EVERY PPV bought in the US was a Floyd fan buying the fight for Floyd. Say EVER PPV bought in the UK was a Hatton fan buying the fight for Hatton (none of it is ever this simple, but you're wanting to simplify things, so lets do it). Hatton sold more PPVs in the UK than Floyd sold in the US. This is the US with a population 10 times the size of the UK. Sure, Hatton may not sell much in the US in terms of PPV (but he certainly does ticket sales), but he made more money for the PBF fight than PBF did and if you did the same fight in the UK he'd make more money than Floyd ever made for any fight in his entire career. Whether you like it or not, Hatton is a bigger draw. He is an even bigger draw when fighting Floyd. He'd be an EVEN BIGGER draw if he fought DLH...hell, he'd be even bigger than that if he fought Tyson over here. But against any of those fighters, he could sell out 75,000+ at Wembley stadium. Hatton could sell that out easily against DLH because of DLH's incredible following too. Hatton and DLH could easily sell out 55,000 against ANYONE in their own countries (DLH hasnt, but Hatton just DID against a relative nobody), he also made shitload of money from PPV sales (nobody knows how much yet, but bearing in mind that the pound sterling is MUCH stronger than the dollar at the moment, I'll wager that its money Floyd would be proud of). Floyd could never sell out 55,000 tickets against anyone other than Hatton or DLH. With his own supporters he'd struggle to do half that against a lower-tier fighter. He does great PPV figures, but Hatton and DLH do both PPV AND gate-receipts. The fact that Hatton's PPV sales are in the UK means nothing. Money is money. Now. Stop being so silly. Great post. No one is attempting to dispute that Mayweather is the better fighter, of course he is but Hatton has a enormous fan base and is well liked on the whole (Even in the States, I have first hand experience of that) whilst Mayweather has a core fan base but on the whole due to his perceived arrogance is not well liked. Ability has no bearing on this matter, Calzaghe who is the best fighter in the UK could not fill Eastlands Stadium like Hatton did, Hatton has the like-ability factor and does therefore command a huge following, I mean over 6000 Brits attended the Mayweather and Hatton weigh in alone!

Dios has picked a really silly argument to get embroiled in here. Please remind me how many pay per view buys Hatton has in the US without Floyd. Thanks in advance. Lets put it this way. Say that Hatton sold more tickets in the arena for the Floyd fight...cos he did. Say that EVERY PPV bought in the US was a Floyd fan buying the fight for Floyd. Say EVER PPV bought in the UK was a Hatton fan buying the fight for Hatton (none of it is ever this simple, but you're wanting to simplify things, so lets do it). Hatton sold more PPVs in the UK than Floyd sold in the US. This is the US with a population 10 times the size of the UK. Sure, Hatton may not sell much in the US in terms of PPV (but he certainly does ticket sales), but he made more money for the PBF fight than PBF did and if you did the same fight in the UK he'd make more money than Floyd ever made for any fight in his entire career. Whether you like it or not, Hatton is a bigger draw. He is an even bigger draw when fighting Floyd. He'd be an EVEN BIGGER draw if he fought DLH...hell, he'd be even bigger than that if he fought Tyson over here. But against any of those fighters, he could sell out 75,000+ at Wembley stadium. Hatton could sell that out easily against DLH because of DLH's incredible following too. Hatton and DLH could easily sell out 55,000 against ANYONE in their own countries (DLH hasnt, but Hatton just DID against a relative nobody), he also made shitload of money from PPV sales (nobody knows how much yet, but bearing in mind that the pound sterling is MUCH stronger than the dollar at the moment, I'll wager that its money Floyd would be proud of). Floyd could never sell out 55,000 tickets against anyone other than Hatton or DLH. With his own supporters he'd struggle to do half that against a lower-tier fighter. He does great PPV figures, but Hatton and DLH do both PPV AND gate-receipts. The fact that Hatton's PPV sales are in the UK means nothing. Money is money. Now. Stop being so silly.

how much did they finally made, both hatton and lazcano??

Well, let me qualify what I said in the beginning of this thread pertaining to Floyd being the bigger draw. Clearly I showed my biases. I was speaking in terms of being an American. Obviously per trying to fill the biggest arena possible with live bodies, there is no bigger draw than Ricky Hatton. He could fill a 100k stadium in England. This isn't debateable. There is no one else who could do that. I wasn't thinking of those terms. I was thinking of US PPV dollars, which is the classic (or recent classic, anyway) means of evaluating a draw. Obviously here Oscar is king. This may certainly be flawed as an assessment as boxing becomes increasingly an international sport, but that is what I meant to be commenting on. I think the best example to illustrate is comparing Floyd v Baldomir, a complete unknown with double digit losses, versus what would have came with Ricky versus Jose Luis Castillo, a much bigger and more credible name name if that were to be on PPV. Do you think Hatton versus Baldomir (in a hypothetical world given the same circumstances in which Floyd fought him but only today) would draw the same? It wouldn't do 200k. Oscar/Hatton wouldn have at absolutely miracle best done the 800k that Floyd/Hatton did. He was an emerging draw with the good numbers he pulled versus Baldomir and Zab, but Oscar and HBO gave the star rub to Floyd by casting him in as the villain in 24/7. Now anything Floyd does will be huge on PPV. No Americans outside of hardcore boxing fans had any clue who Hatton was, but 800k buys were generated. Those were all Floyd. Even if they became Hatton fans due to the 24/7, the draw was Floyd's. It was him being the villain. Hatton couldn't match those buys except against maybe Oscar, but they would be Oscar's absurd fanbase. Seriously, which fight generates more buys: Hatton/Manny Pacquiao or Floyd/Manny Pacquiao? Again, this may be a flawed comparison, but in terms of generating money (how else can the biggest draw be measured? And American PPV is where the biggest money is). Floyd/Manny would definitely do the bigger number.

This goes to show how successful fighters can be (even if they're arent from the U.S.) and how much their fans love them. I mean i was impressed by how many hatton fans literally flew over on a plane from england to watch him fight floyd and jose luis castillo. I'm 100% against a hatton v. floyd rematch however i will admit if the fight took place in england both ricky and floyd would cash out big time. hatton brings 55K against a guy that many view as nothing more than a "tune-up"... so put hatton in the ring with a guy like floyd (who is the p4p best) and the numbers could be staggering...somewhere around 75K i'd imagine... why? more hatton fans to come out and watch him compete and potentially beat the p4p best...and fans coming over from the U.S. (not as many as hatton brings when he comes over) etc. I just wish hatton would have that big fight in england against someone other than floyd because i feel as if it will be a waste of everyone's time pretty much.

When you are losing a debate, always go with the "stfu". That is a classic move. Well played, dear friend. Well played, indeed. 2007: Ricky Hatton will knock Floyd out!! 2008: Ricky Hatton will fill a soccer stadium more than Floyd!! I cant take anything you say serious, not because you talk shit but because you have Christian Ronaldo as your avi, a gay looking Ronaldo at that.

Let's be nutty and pretend that promoters and networks are in business to make money. If there was a market for this fight, it would not be on at 2pm in the afternoon on Memorial Day weekend. However many you fantasize paid to see Hatton before, they certainly ain't lining up today. Mwah. :kiss: let's be nutty and look back to 4 months ago when Hatton said he'd like his next fight to be in the UK at UK evening time to repay all his UK fans for coming to see him in the US......

Let's be nutty and pretend that promoters and networks are in business to make money. If there was a market for this fight, it would not be on at 2pm in the afternoon on Memorial Day weekend. However many you fantasize paid to see Hatton before, they certainly ain't lining up today. Mwah. :kiss: I think it has more to do with the fact 55000 people cant get the bus home at 4am than what the americans want. Hes getting 12 million dollars on the gate plus what ever ppv's it gets. Hes making a lote more money of this fight than what Floyd would get fighting lazcano even at this stage of his career so stfu:kiss:

Then why did so many Brits fly over to see Hatton fight him? ...why didn't that happen vs. Collazo, Urango or castillo? Do you not remember the Castillo fight? there were over 10,000 brits in the arena how could you NOT hear them?

Please remind me how many pay per view buys Hatton has in the US without Floyd. Thanks in advance. Fuck knows you can't prove shit about US buys since you can't take a poll on who ordered the fight to see which fighter. Whereas Hatton is proved he is fighting a B grade fighter and still making a gate of 55,000 whereas i doubt if Floyd fought Lazcano in his hometown that he'd pull even 10,000.... Floyd maybe the far superior fighter but in terms of sales he doesn't do much in comparision to Hatton.

Please remind me how many pay per view buys Hatton has in the US without Floyd. Thanks in advance. more than Floyd has anywhere else in the world

You mean Mayweather sold 850K in the US. Since hatton's buys sans-Floyd are a totoal of, um, er... ZERO. :kiss: ermm nope. Hatton got a major cut of the UK buys which ended up being 850k PPV buys soo erm he earned more than Floyd....

Probably the same as when he fought the legendary Baldomir... THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND PPV BUYS In the words of a wise man... END OF ARGUMENT. :banana: that was after Gatti and Judah PPV's. It was perceived that the fight was going to be exciting as confirmed by these articles.. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/75987/why_you_should_buy_mayweather_vs_baldomir.html This could possibly be one of the most exciting nights for this year of boxing. http://www.sportbet.com/articles/Mayweather-Baldomir-Fight-Odds.html Mayweather vs. Baldomir is looking like the ‘Fight of the Year’ candidate and from a sports fans perspective. Basically, Floyd had created a buzz because of the excitement of his previous PPV fights so it is only logical that his 3rd would follow in the same direction. But we all know how that went.

This guy is hurting. Why are cunts so interested in the earnings of boxers. It's twatish. I never understood that either. As long as theyre making enough to provide for their family and their future(along with their medical bills if they get roughed up in the ring), I dont really understand why anyone would care that much about what a fighter makes. Hatton sure does have a loyal fanbase...