If cotto wins`well or even just clearly against Margarito how will it effect his legacy? 10years from now will people look at it as a key fight in his career or simply just another fight!? Theres a big buzz about this fight and a genuine sense of danger but on paper Tony dont look as good as he actually is, i mean Five losses 1 against a guy who was skooled by a guy Cotto crushed in 5! Slow, crude no real names in the W colum other than Cintron. So whats ur thoughts?
Yes itll affect his legacy in a good way. When people look back at this and they do their homework they will see that Cotto has no one else to face but Tony. Tony is the big bad wolf in the division. "The most feared". Since no one really wants to fight him aka mayweather, Cotto is stepping up to the plate. Tony is Cottos biggest threat If cotto gets by him the only other person he has to face to seal the deal is mayweather. If he faces him. Cotto is the number 2 WW right now behind money. If he beat margo that is 3 and 4(mosley).Hes just widening the margin within him and everyone else.
I think the risk reward discussion is legitimate in that no doubt the risk is very real with someone as tough as Margarito. I'm not so sure about the reward side though. I view a Cotto win as essentially catapulting him into a position on par with Mayweather in terms of being the man to beat. In terms of short run market positioning, in terms of strengthening his brand and essentially paving the way for a potentially remarkable legacy, a win here can prove pivotal.
And I know that while the thought nowadays that money might not be a primary, seems ludicrous in professional sports, it's an interesting thought to entertain, that courage and achieving greatness might still have their place.
If cotto wins`well or even just clearly against Margarito how will it effect his legacy? 10years from now will people look at it as a key fight in his career or simply just another fight!? Theres a big buzz about this fight and a genuine sense of danger but on paper Tony dont look as good as he actually is, i mean Five losses 1 against a guy who was skooled by a guy Cotto crushed in 5! Slow, crude no real names in the W colum other than Cintron. So whats ur thoughts?
If Cotto wins it'll be viewed as a very credible win.
Style-wise Tony is a nightmare for Miguel, so if he somehow manages to pull off the win he'd have dispatched one of the more dangerous opponents he can fight, in a division already filled with talent.
It would be a solid win. But in no way will it define his career. Add to the fact that Marg has multiple loses. And Paul Williams already beat him, which most poeple think sucks on this baord. So he wouldn't get any all time historic credit for it. It would just be a nice win.
u are a cotto hugger with his nutts in your eyes or simply aint got a brain if u r argiung against smth I never told
what sorry i did'nt understand the last part
u are a Cotto hater or u aint got a clue what your watching if u think Cotto is on the same level as Paul Williams
u are a cotto hugger with his nutts in your eyes or simply aint got a brain if u r argiung against smth I never told
Margarito just becomes another hyped up fighter.
He is right on the Clottey and Williams level. Good, but nothing exceptional.
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yeah i just think williams underestimated carlos badly and he paid the price but cq is very skilled
Probably yeah, he knows what Quintana is all about now tho so if weight making dont kill em he should be able to bag a W
Right now, Cotto's legacy is that he is the best WW in the world in 2008. Most people seem to be agreed on this, although in truth with his three best welterweight wins being Qunintana, Judah and Mosley, he has not faced the kind of opposition on which great reputations are ultimately made. His reputation rests mostly on being the most solid of a solid bunch. Other than Mayweather there is no real career defining fight out there for him.
Nobody thinks that Margarito is the best welter in the world, or they shouldn't. The talk of the Cotto-Margarito fight being a Floyd eliminator stems mostly from the desire to see Cotto fight Mayweather rather than an assessment that Margarito is challenging Cotto in terms of who deserves the shot. What fighting and beating Margarito will do for Cotto's legacy is show us a little bit more of what we think we already know, that Cotto is the best of the current crop of welters. Margarito is easily a more dangerous opponent than Quintana, Judah or an old Mosley and a W against him is just another step along the road Cotto must take to get to Mayweather. It will be a good fight, a good win, but in and of itself, Cotto beating Margarito doesn't really prove all that much.
Yeah thats exactly what im sayin bud yeah. No shame in losing to CQ anyway that kids got skills!yeah i just think williams underestimated carlos badly and he paid the price but cq is very skilled
It would happen, we can be sure of that if Cotto prevails.
Arum could make other fights, I disagree. A rematch with Mosley would have been a potentially more lucrative option for Cotto with very little to lose even in defeat. And that's not to say that would happen anyway. Mosley seems less dangerous than Margarito at this point.
Mayorga has also put his name in the mix at 147..
The second part of your post is spot on. I fully agree and that's well stated.
Well, alright. Risk/Reward goes out the window. I like how you put that.
The truth is though, Margarito's name isn't even in the discussion of who is the best Welterweight in the world. Cotto's name is. It isn't even exchange for where Cotto is right now. And if something goes wrong there will likely never be a De La Hoya or Mayweather fight for Cotto. That's alot to lose.
Cotto is right here right now. He's that close to the huge money and the Undisputed this and the P4P that, ect.. What's he doing fucking around with Margarito? Makes no sense, it's a Top Rank setup. Bob Arum's whole reasoning for Boxing not being dead at the press conference was an explanation of television ratings in Mexico. Dude is plotting. :tapedshut
Thats an intresting theory on Arum.
He's put ALOT of work into Cotto tho. I'll have a think about it.
If cotto wins`well or even just clearly against Margarito how will it effect his legacy? 10years from now will people look at it as a key fight in his career or simply just another fight!? Theres a big buzz about this fight and a genuine sense of danger but on paper Tony dont look as good as he actually is, i mean Five losses 1 against a guy who was skooled by a guy Cotto crushed in 5! Slow, crude no real names in the W colum other than Cintron. So whats ur thoughts?
cotto's win over mosley is better for his legacy than this fight with margarito.
I agree.
If Cotto wins convincingly, Margarito just becomes another hyped up fighter.
It would happen, we can be sure of that if Cotto prevails.
Cause he hasn't a $750K clause and Arum can't make more lucrative fight for him.
Cotto once said that Tony lost his opportunity to fight him when he chose to fight Williams instead and lost. He definitely didn't want to fight him, but he suddenly became the hostage of his "I'll fight anyone put in front of me". Just like Tony was the most feared man... suddenly not by Williams.
Arum could make other fights, I disagree. A rematch with Mosley would have been a potentially more lucrative option for Cotto with very little to lose even in defeat. And that's not to say that would happen anyway. Mosley seems less dangerous than Margarito at this point.
Mayorga has also put his name in the mix at 147..
The second part of your post is spot on. I fully agree and that's well stated.
Yeah i agree Marg will be discredited in the immediate aftermath of the fight (should Miguel win) never mind in years to come. Dispite what some of my posts might lead one to believe im all to well aware of the threat Tony brings,as is Cotto, although i still feel Cotto gets the win. I love Miguel and Margs attitude, especially miguels since he more to lose, they fight anybody! The way it should be! Fuck risk/reward and all that shit the make the fights that need to happen! Perhaps not the smartest way to handle ur career but if u truely believe ur the best then the thought of losing shouldnt come in to it.
Well, alright. Risk/Reward goes out the window. I like how you put that.
The truth is though, Margarito's name isn't even in the discussion of who is the best Welterweight in the world. Cotto's name is. It isn't even exchange for where Cotto is right now. And if something goes wrong there will likely never be a De La Hoya or Mayweather fight for Cotto. That's alot to lose.
Cotto is right here right now. He's that close to the huge money and the Undisputed this and the P4P that, ect.. What's he doing fucking around with Margarito? Makes no sense, it's a Top Rank setup. Bob Arum's whole reasoning for Boxing not being dead at the press conference was an explanation of television ratings in Mexico. Dude is plotting. :tapedshut
if u are interested let me know how much u are willing to bet
2K? All i can really afford. God damn it i used to be a baller on here!
Worth mentioning i will be rooting for Quintana
You know what the haters will say and have said "Marg already has 5 losses he is a hyped bum." Now Marg IS overhyped but a win over him is DAMN GOOD and it would solidify any doubt as to Cotto being the WW to beat. Bring on Floyd!
If Cotto and Mayweather both come thru it HAS to happen i honestly cant think of a fight ive EVER wanted to happen more it will be HUGE!
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if u are interested let me know how much u are willing to bet