The next Calzaghe: Arthur Abraham

I will give him credit if he beats miranda in the states but i really want to see this guy fight KELLY PAVLIK, i dare him to try some good fighter in his prime, why doesn't he? Want to beat he will run back to europe after the fight? That's why you are full red K clown. You don't know what you are talkin about. 1.ABRAHAM KOED MIRANDA IN A REMATCH IN USA IN THE 4TH ROUND.So give him credit. 2.PAVLIK DUCKED ABRAHAM. Abraham tried to have the fight but Arum wasn't interestead.... 3.ABRAHAM WILL FIGHT DIRELL IN USA FOR HIS NEXT FIGHT. You're thread is shamefull and unfair.

No, he will hide in Europe till the current champions on his weight or around it become old, but still have a big enough name, sort of like Hopkins, then he will travel to the States, make on or two fights against at least 10 years older fighters, win the p4p king crown along the way, and call it a career. People will be all over his nuts saying no one gave him a chance to come to the states fight the top dogs before (underdog complex) and it will become fact he was at least top 5 all time. Fine with me, it's not like i'm paying to watch boxing but i'm telling you, if MMA becomes the charade boxing is i'll cut my support for that sport too. Right now i can only say good stuff about MMA, if you don't watch it you're missing out, it's Ali, Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robbinson there right now, it's the golden age, only their names are Anderson Silva, George St Pierre, Quinton Rampage Jackson and killing machine Fedor Emilianenko baby. That's excitement! Don't get me wrong i still love boxing but you really have to be 14 year old or retarded not to see where it's going. Shame. You are a dickhead and a liar. First of all,Calzaghe's career is not complete,AGREED. BUT, you should stop to sleep on a dude who won 2 lineal titles and has beaten 8 world champion in his career. CALZAGHE ISN'T SVEN OTTKE(Never won a lineal crown). When Hopkins beat Pavlik in a catchweight fight,Nard is robinson. When Joe punish as well for 12 rounds and knock down a puncher Lacy,Lacy is overrated and Joe is a slapping hoe. DOUBLE STANDARD Hopkins might be old,but the old man exposed Tarver and beat Winky FEW MONTHS BEFORE.He was a legitimate 175 champion. AT LEAST,CALZAGHE IS BETTER THAN TARVER HUH??? You are a liar because,Hopkins and Jones jr called out Calzaghe themselves because he was P4P number 1 or 2 and both get bitchslapped. So that theory,"Calzaghe picked two old men is wrong",he just agreed to Hopkins and Jones demands. Not to mention Nard turned down a fight with Calzaghe nearly a decade ago. No matter the reason,he turned it down. Calzaghe's opposition wasn't that great,but he ducked nobody at 168 and he's the best 168 fighter of all time in term of achievements tough it wasn't a great division in Calzaghe's time.FACTS. However Calzaghe should have fight Dawson before retiring. His legacy would have been complete with that one.

I have to agree here big time... not because I'm German... but some things are wrong... I can't speak for Calzaghe because I never really followed him so I don't know if he wanted to fight guys like Hopkins and Jones in their primes. What I can tell you about Abraham is this... he really wants nothing more bad then fight in the US... BUT his promoter and also for his own future you simply have to see that Abraham is not that known in the US... and in Germany he's an big star... his last fight was even more watched then the Klitschko's (who are huge stars here)... he makes very good money in Germany... But he wanted and begged forever for a fight with Pavlik in the states... He is now part in the SuperSix Tournament which will give him more exposure hopefully in the states... Dude is for real... he is technical not the best but he always finds a way to land on you... very smart boxer... and packs a hell of a punch... his last fights at MW were a bit misleading because he was drained to death... but if he lands on the button it is over... I can't tell you to watch him... but you will miss out on something if you don't... I promise I meant disagree at the beginning, sorry

No, he will hide in Europe till the current champions on his weight or around it become old, but still have a big enough name, sort of like Hopkins, then he will travel to the States, make on or two fights against at least 10 years older fighters, win the p4p king crown along the way, and call it a career. People will be all over his nuts saying no one gave him a chance to come to the states fight the top dogs before (underdog complex) and it will become fact he was at least top 5 all time. Fine with me, it's not like i'm paying to watch boxing but i'm telling you, if MMA becomes the charade boxing is i'll cut my support for that sport too. Right now i can only say good stuff about MMA, if you don't watch it you're missing out, it's Ali, Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robbinson there right now, it's the golden age, only their names are Anderson Silva, George St Pierre, Quinton Rampage Jackson and killing machine Fedor Emilianenko baby. That's excitement! Don't get me wrong i still love boxing but you really have to be 14 year old or retarded not to see where it's going. Shame. I have to agree here big time... not because I'm German... but some things are wrong... I can't speak for Calzaghe because I never really followed him so I don't know if he wanted to fight guys like Hopkins and Jones in their primes. What I can tell you about Abraham is this... he really wants nothing more bad then fight in the US... BUT his promoter and also for his own future you simply have to see that Abraham is not that known in the US... and in Germany he's an big star... his last fight was even more watched then the Klitschko's (who are huge stars here)... he makes very good money in Germany... But he wanted and begged forever for a fight with Pavlik in the states... He is now part in the SuperSix Tournament which will give him more exposure hopefully in the states... Dude is for real... he is technical not the best but he always finds a way to land on you... very smart boxer... and packs a hell of a punch... his last fights at MW were a bit misleading because he was drained to death... but if he lands on the button it is over... I can't tell you to watch him... but you will miss out on something if you don't... I promise

May 2008 and i'm already telling you this. I feel strongly about this and this guy will be a copy of Calzaghe. All you now 37 and 39 year olds better watch out, Abraham is coming for you! And for the p4p tittle... Abraham is not going to be the next Calzaghe he doesnt throw enough to do be that, infact he barley got by Miranda dont get your hopes up kid you might get let down

I will give him credit if he beats miranda in the states but i really want to see this guy fight KELLY PAVLIK, i dare him to try some good fighter in his prime, why doesn't he? Want to beat he will run back to europe after the fight?

kelly pavlik will destroy artie arbraham, you cant stand around and cover up for two minutes a round and beat pavlik. and if anyone thinks abraham is just gonna hit kelly pavlik once and he will fall down unconcious theyre just plain nuts Pavliks chin is a bit suspect and AA carries his power well. He is very sound defensively and blocks punches very well. He will be an underdog against Pavlik for sure, but I definetely wouldn't count him out.

I will give him credit if he beats miranda in the states but i really want to see this guy fight KELLY PAVLIK, i dare him to try some good fighter in his prime, why doesn't he? Want to beat he will run back to europe after the fight? kelly pavlik will destroy artie arbraham, you cant stand around and cover up for two minutes a round and beat pavlik. and if anyone thinks abraham is just gonna hit kelly pavlik once and he will fall down unconcious theyre just plain nuts

I will give him credit if he beats miranda in the states but i really want to see this guy fight KELLY PAVLIK, i dare him to try some good fighter in his prime, why doesn't he? Want to beat he will run back to europe after the fight?

No, he will hide in Europe till the current champions on his weight or around it become old, but still have a big enough name, sort of like Hopkins, then he will travel to the States, make on or two fights against at least 10 years older fighters, win the p4p king crown along the way, and call it a career. People will be all over his nuts saying no one gave him a chance to come to the states fight the top dogs before (underdog complex) and it will become fact he was at least top 5 all time. Fine with me, it's not like i'm paying to watch boxing but i'm telling you, if MMA becomes the charade boxing is i'll cut my support for that sport too. Right now i can only say good stuff about MMA, if you don't watch it you're missing out, it's Ali, Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robbinson there right now, it's the golden age, only their names are Anderson Silva, George St Pierre, Quinton Rampage Jackson and killing machine Fedor Emilianenko baby. That's excitement! Don't get me wrong i still love boxing but you really have to be 14 year old or retarded not to see where it's going. Shame. I'm sorry but this is a stupid thread. There's no comparison whatsoever. Abraham is a a dangerous slugger who's going to the backyard of a previous in-his-prime opponent who gave him hell the first time around. If you want to make a thread about MMA vs. boxing then be my guest, but don't call a thread something it aint.

No, he will hide in Europe till the current champions on his weight or around it become old, but still have a big enough name, sort of like Hopkins, then he will travel to the States, make on or two fights against at least 10 years older fighters, win the p4p king crown along the way, and call it a career. People will be all over his nuts saying no one gave him a chance to come to the states fight the top dogs before (underdog complex) and it will become fact he was at least top 5 all time. Fine with me, it's not like i'm paying to watch boxing but i'm telling you, if MMA becomes the charade boxing is i'll cut my support for that sport too. Right now i can only say good stuff about MMA, if you don't watch it you're missing out, it's Ali, Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robbinson there right now, it's the golden age, only their names are Anderson Silva, George St Pierre, Quinton Rampage Jackson and killing machine Fedor Emilianenko baby. That's excitement! Don't get me wrong i still love boxing but you really have to be 14 year old or retarded not to see where it's going. Shame. wow!!!!!!!!!! just wow!!!!!!!!!!!!:puppy_dog

No, he will hide in Europe till the current champions on his weight or around it become old, but still have a big enough name, sort of like Hopkins, then he will travel to the States, make on or two fights against at least 10 years older fighters, win the p4p king crown along the way, and call it a career. People will be all over his nuts saying no one gave him a chance to come to the states fight the top dogs before (underdog complex) and it will become fact he was at least top 5 all time. Fine with me, it's not like i'm paying to watch boxing but i'm telling you, if MMA becomes the charade boxing is i'll cut my support for that sport too. Right now i can only say good stuff about MMA, if you don't watch it you're missing out, it's Ali, Joe Louis and Sugar Ray Robbinson there right now, it's the golden age, only their names are Anderson Silva, George St Pierre, Quinton Rampage Jackson and killing machine Fedor Emilianenko baby. That's excitement! Don't get me wrong i still love boxing but you really have to be 14 year old or retarded not to see where it's going. Shame.

So is he going to fight in his own backyard until his old and try to get a big payday against legendary fighters past their prime?

May 2008 and i'm already telling you this. I feel strongly about this and this guy will be a copy of Calzaghe. All you now 37 and 39 year olds better watch out, Abraham is coming for you! And for the p4p tittle... Do you have inside info from Abrahams camp? Will this super kayo-artist start slapping???

Is that supposed to be a compliment? :rofl: