I re watched pavlik and miranda i have to say he has alot of heart hes defo gna batter arthur because he has a pulse.
I didnt realise how hard pavlik was hitting him but now i see he was gettin hit flush hard not even jermain could of took what miranda did.
Your opinion. I say you are waaaay wrong.
Pavlik fought at best a 75% Miranda.
My guess is Pavlik will get beat by someone unexpected before a rematch with Miranda even happens. I hope not, but fear it will happen.
I feel hes gna be upset to lol.
Miranda A class heart for real i never seen someone take beating like that at middlewieght in a while.
Pavlik beats Miranda at any weight, he is the superior fighter...Miranda will end up with permanent brain damage if he fights Pavlik again.
Your opinion. I say you are waaaay wrong.
Pavlik fought at best a 75% Miranda.
My guess is Pavlik will get beat by someone unexpected before a rematch with Miranda even happens. I hope not, but fear it will happen.
Miranda does have alot of heart, and a big pair of balls. I hope he destroys Abraham and knocks him the fuck out.. I read that he might fight Froch for a vacant title. That would be awesome, Froch has no defense. He would get knocked out by Miranda.
When he says 'lucky' he means that he could not make the weight and Pavlik got him at the right time. He has given his respect to Kelly many many times... He just wants to prove to everyone that at a higher weight things would be different. Right or wrong, he has the heart and balls to want to try! Respect for that.
Pavlik beats Miranda at any weight, he is the superior fighter...Miranda will end up with permanent brain damage if he fights Pavlik again.
Miranda did show a lot of heart while getting destroyed and KO'd by Pavlik, but I lost a lot of respect for him when he cried and made excuses after the fight...Miranda even said in an interview recently that Pavlik got lucky against him, LOL...Miranda got outclasses and destroyed by a superior fighter in Pavlik, that's the bottom line.
When he says 'lucky' he means that he could not make the weight and Pavlik got him at the right time. He has given his respect to Kelly many many times... He just wants to prove to everyone that at a higher weight things would be different. Right or wrong, he has the heart and balls to want to try! Respect for that.
I also could never understand why people bash Miranda because he lost to Pavlik. Yes he lost but he did the best he could that night and he took that loss like a man. He could give up but he didnt he would never give up a fight.
Just as Abraham this guy has a huge heart und is a fighter who diserves respect even though he talks much shit but thats only good for business.
Miranda did show a lot of heart while getting destroyed and KO'd by Pavlik, but I lost a lot of respect for him when he cried and made excuses after the fight...Miranda even said in an interview recently that Pavlik got lucky against him, LOL...Miranda got outclassed and destroyed by a superior fighter in Pavlik, that's the bottom line.
hmmmmmm..... I know you are not biased whatsoever :)
Anyway. I cannot wait for the Miranda-Abraham fight. If Miranda wins he seems destined to fight Kessler later this year. If Abraham prevails my boxingscene account will be booming!
What are your thought on a possible Miranda - Kessler clash in 2008? Will it happen?
It could.
I hear there is also a good chance of a fight with Froch for a vacant title.
I also could never understand why people bash Miranda because he lost to Pavlik. Yes he lost but he did the best he could that night and he took that loss like a man. He could give up but he didnt he would never give up a fight.
Just as Abraham this guy has a huge heart und is a fighter who diserves respect even though he talks much shit but thats only good for business.
Rafael's story was 100% accurate.
My story on what happen after Rafael story is 100% accurate. :)
hmmmmmm..... I know you are not biased whatsoever :)
Anyway. I cannot wait for the Miranda-Abraham fight. If Miranda wins he seems destined to fight Kessler later this year. If Abraham prevails my boxingscene account will be booming!
What are your thought on a possible Miranda - Kessler clash in 2008? Will it happen?
If my memory serves me correctly Rafael's story came out after the first negotiations broke down. He never did address the issue after fiasco no.2. That seems a bit shitty. I guess he didn't want retract any of the mud he threw on team kessler.
Rafael's story was 100% accurate.
My story on what happen after Rafael story is 100% accurate. :)
I'd put my money on a Rafael story waaaaaaay before a Marley story, especially when Marely is writting about his own fighter!
And for the record, what Rafael wrote was 100% accurate. I should know. :)
If my memory serves me correctly Rafael's story came out after the first negotiations broke down. He never did address the issue after fiasco no.2. That seems a bit shitty. I guess he didn't want retract any of the mud he threw on team kessler.
Dan Rafael, who has no interest in either fighter wrote the true story about what happened. Of course Palle and Marley are going to try to cover their ass and lie to make them look better. They got what was coming to them, a pissed off USA network, now no USA coverage and a shitty fight that nobody respects Kessler for making.
That pretty much sums it up, Team Kessler is full of *&!#
Sorry but Rafael is a shitty reporter. He has his favorites and will not listen to any critique put on those he favours. That was evidenced by 2 threads the other day.
I'd put my money on a Rafael story waaaaaaay before a Marley story, especially when Marely is writting about his own fighter!
And for the record, what Rafael wrote was 100% accurate. I should know. :)
Dan Rafael, who has no interest in either fighter wrote the true story about what happened. Of course Palle and Marley are going to try to cover their ass and lie to make them look better. They got what was coming to them, a pissed off USA network, now no USA coverage and a shitty fight that nobody respects Kessler for making.
Sorry but Rafael is a shitty reporter. He has his favorites and will not listen to any critique put on those he favours. That was evidenced by 2 threads the other day.
Dan Rafael, who has no interest in either fighter wrote the true story about what happened. Of course Palle and Marley are going to try to cover their ass and lie to make them look better. They got what was coming to them, a pissed off USA network, now no USA coverage and a shitty fight that nobody respects Kessler for making.
wrong
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/04/miranda-kessler-update/
Now we know why the panther is an endangered species. A mere kitten has just chased Edison “La Pantera” Miranda up a tree. The “kitten” is former and future world super middleweight champion Mikkel Kessler. To put it in boxing language, Leon Margules, head of Seminole Warriors Boxing has just informed HBO executives that he is “not interested” in having Miranda fight former WBA and WBC champion Kessler on June 21 despite the fact that Kessler readily agreed to holding the fight for the soon to be vacated WBA super middleweight title at the Warriors Arena in Hollywood, Florida.
When this fight was trying to be put together for rival network Showtime, Margules sent out press release after press release accusing the Kessler team of being dirty. dishonest and scared of fighting the twice-beaten Miranda. The press releases compared Kessler to a pussycat and accused the man whose only loss in 40 pro bouts was to undefeated legend Joe Calzaghe of wishing to stay in “a cocoon” in his native Denmark. That conveniently ignored the fact that Kessler’s first title was in Australia against Tony Mundine and that he willingly went to Wales to fight Calzaghe in front of 50,000 partisan fans.
“We called Miranda’s bluff,” Kessler matchmaker Mogens Palle said Monday night. “We lobbied for Miranda to move up from the Number 6 contender spot to Number 2 so that we could satisfy HBO with a title bout. We were willing to fight Miranda at the Seminole Warriors’ own hotel-casino and arena in a non-title, over the weight 10-rounder or a 12-round WBA title bout.
“All the while Margules was pumping out demeaning and 100 percent false press releases about us and about Kessler being this meek, little kitten afraid to get into the ring with the big, bad Panther. Never in my wildest dreams did I think that Margules would fold like a cheap umbrella in a windstorm. When we agreed to come to his arena with four neutral, WBA officials and even got clearance on that from the Florida commission, I thought this fight was ready to be signed. So did the HBO people.”
Margules gave the HBO executives the stunning news of Miranda’s pullout about 3 pm, EDT.
“I am satsified that the HBO folks know that I wanted to fight Miranda, title or non title, on their air June 21. I am in training and I hope that HBO can find someone who is willing to fight me on that specific date. I will fight anyone they put in front of me for the right price.”
Kessler’s agent, Michael Marley, confirmed what Palle said.
“It was Mogens and Bettina (Palle, Kessler’s manager) who made all the concessions here. It was the Palles who got Kessler accepted as the official WBA challenger. It was the Palles who lobbied for Miranda as a worthy Number 2 challenger behind only Mikkel in the WBA ratings. WBA President Gilberto Mendoza Jr. and his team did everything they could to make this highly-anticipated fight a reality. So did Lou DiBella. At the end, the bitter end, it was Margules who pulled the plug. I guess that’s sadly appropriate since it was Leon who kept reneging on the terms and conditions for the Showtime deal. Now he’s burned Showtime in one month and HBO in the next.
I just wonder if Pantera and his co-managers know what’s been going on.”
Finally, Marley asked what the public and media outcry would be if Miranda agreed to come to Denmark and Kessler bowed out.
“Everyone would be howling and rightfully so,” Marley said. “But the shoe is on Miranda’s foot and his promoter’s foot. Kitten Kessler was ready to come to his house, to blow his house down and give Miranda a sound beating. But Margules just slammed the door in Kessler’s face and HBO’s face. I hope people keep these facts in mind when you read the next ridiculous press release about how everyone is so afraid of Miranda. Instead of crying over spilt milk regarding Glen Johnson losing a decision to Chad Dawson, Margules could have finalized this bout for Edison on HBO. Imagine the Panther, the fearsome fighter, turning down a world tiitle shot on HBO on his home grounds!”
Marley, who happens to be Kessler's agent, is just as big of a liar and asshole as Palle. They are a perfect fit. Kessler needs to get himself away from those two pricks.
It was Kessler who turned down the fight with Miranda. Miranda wanted Kessler all the way. Mikkel made outrageous demands and they met every one and he still backed out
wrong
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2008/04/miranda-kessler-update/
Now we know why the panther is an endangered species. A mere kitten has just chased Edison “La Pantera” Miranda up a tree. The “kitten” is former and future world super middleweight champion Mikkel Kessler. To put it in boxing language, Leon Margules, head of Seminole Warriors Boxing has just informed HBO executives that he is “not interested” in having Miranda fight former WBA and WBC champion Kessler on June 21 despite the fact that Kessler readily agreed to holding the fight for the soon to be vacated WBA super middleweight title at the Warriors Arena in Hollywood, Florida.
When this fight was trying to be put together for rival network Showtime, Margules sent out press release after press release accusing the Kessler team of being dirty. dishonest and scared of fighting the twice-beaten Miranda. The press releases compared Kessler to a pussycat and accused the man whose only loss in 40 pro bouts was to undefeated legend Joe Calzaghe of wishing to stay in “a cocoon” in his native Denmark. That conveniently ignored the fact that Kessler’s first title was in Australia against Tony Mundine and that he willingly went to Wales to fight Calzaghe in front of 50,000 partisan fans.
“We called Miranda’s bluff,” Kessler matchmaker Mogens Palle said Monday night. “We lobbied for Miranda to move up from the Number 6 contender spot to Number 2 so that we could satisfy HBO with a title bout. We were willing to fight Miranda at the Seminole Warriors’ own hotel-casino and arena in a non-title, over the weight 10-rounder or a 12-round WBA title bout.
“All the while Margules was pumping out demeaning and 100 percent false press releases about us and about Kessler being this meek, little kitten afraid to get into the ring with the big, bad Panther. Never in my wildest dreams did I think that Margules would fold like a cheap umbrella in a windstorm. When we agreed to come to his arena with four neutral, WBA officials and even got clearance on that from the Florida commission, I thought this fight was ready to be signed. So did the HBO people.”
Margules gave the HBO executives the stunning news of Miranda’s pullout about 3 pm, EDT.
“I am satsified that the HBO folks know that I wanted to fight Miranda, title or non title, on their air June 21. I am in training and I hope that HBO can find someone who is willing to fight me on that specific date. I will fight anyone they put in front of me for the right price.”
Kessler’s agent, Michael Marley, confirmed what Palle said.
“It was Mogens and Bettina (Palle, Kessler’s manager) who made all the concessions here. It was the Palles who got Kessler accepted as the official WBA challenger. It was the Palles who lobbied for Miranda as a worthy Number 2 challenger behind only Mikkel in the WBA ratings. WBA President Gilberto Mendoza Jr. and his team did everything they could to make this highly-anticipated fight a reality. So did Lou DiBella. At the end, the bitter end, it was Margules who pulled the plug. I guess that’s sadly appropriate since it was Leon who kept reneging on the terms and conditions for the Showtime deal. Now he’s burned Showtime in one month and HBO in the next.
I just wonder if Pantera and his co-managers know what’s been going on.”
Finally, Marley asked what the public and media outcry would be if Miranda agreed to come to Denmark and Kessler bowed out.
“Everyone would be howling and rightfully so,” Marley said. “But the shoe is on Miranda’s foot and his promoter’s foot. Kitten Kessler was ready to come to his house, to blow his house down and give Miranda a sound beating. But Margules just slammed the door in Kessler’s face and HBO’s face. I hope people keep these facts in mind when you read the next ridiculous press release about how everyone is so afraid of Miranda. Instead of crying over spilt milk regarding Glen Johnson losing a decision to Chad Dawson, Margules could have finalized this bout for Edison on HBO. Imagine the Panther, the fearsome fighter, turning down a world tiitle shot on HBO on his home grounds!”