If Jeff comes back strong he could KO Pavlik

Pavlik would knock Lacy out cold and end his career.LOL your posts always crack me up.

Pavlik would knock Lacy out cold and end his career.

If Jeff regains his former self I think he would KO Pavlik. A shortish guy with a great chin and incredible stamina smothering Pavlik will really piss Pavlik off. Kelly wont be able to throw his punches and everything will be from close range. BAM Left hook and lights out for Kelly. :ugh::smashfrea:nono::pat:

Lacy got destroyed by Clazaghe and almost lost to Manfredo of all people. Pavlik is a very similar fighter in terms of work rate and pressure to Joe (but with more power), I don't see how anyone would think that Pavlik wouldn't do the same thing to Lacy as Calzaghe did to him. i couldnt have said it any better

Pavlik is flat footed, Calzaghe was not. Pavlik WILL take BIG shots off Lacy is they were to fight. None of Pavlik's opponents have come at him and pressured him from the off. MANY Pavlik opponents are pressure fighters by nature, and NONE of them have been able to go forward. Pavlik is flat-footed, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It plays into his style perfectly. Lacy is slow, mathodical, extremely predictable, and has absolutely no jab. There is no way he would land anything on Pavlik, who has solid defense. pavlik would easily batter him for like 6 or 7 rounds before stopping him IMO. Although it could just as likely go to the cards cause Lacy is one of the toughest guys in sports today. The guy is an animal

Well if Lacy was a boxer then I'd agree. Lacy is a puncher and so is Kelly.

Calzaghe got a wide UD and caned Lacy. Most reckon Calzaghe Pavlik would be close ish Calzaghe UD. That means Pavliks on or near Calzaghe's level, and Lacy clearly wasn't, and isn't, to either of them. Sorry that's the basics, but there's no major particulars about Pavlik, Joe, or Lacy that'd make the above too inaccurate really.

Pavlik is flat footed, Calzaghe was not. Pavlik WILL take BIG shots off Lacy is they were to fight. None of Pavlik's opponents have come at him and pressured him from the off. I agree hat Calzaghe is much more athletic than Kelly, but it is very hard for a fighter to pressure some right off the bat when the opponent they are facing has great knock out power and jumps on you right away as Pavlik does. You are correct though Pavlik does take shots. But I am not quite sure why everyone questions Pavlik's chin so much as well. He sustained repeated clean right hands from Miranda (same one that blew Bank's face off) and wasn't even phased by it. We forget that when he was put down by Taylor, he was considered the undisputed and best middleweight in the world. He landed about 7 wide open blows to Pavlik's jaw. 90 % of fighters would have been asleep after that. He got up and won the fight.

Pavlik is flat footed, Calzaghe was not. Pavlik WILL take BIG shots off Lacy is they were to fight. None of Pavlik's opponents have come at him and pressured him from the off.

Lacy got destroyed by Clazaghe and almost lost to Manfredo of all people. Pavlik is a very similar fighter in terms of work rate and pressure to Joe (but with more power), I don't see how anyone would think that Pavlik wouldn't do the same thing to Lacy as Calzaghe did to him.

Jeff would push the fight to Kelly, not the other way round. If Jeff Lacy throws his combinations to the body and back up to the head he will out slug Kelly. Jeff can be beaten by boxers with good upper body movement and footwork, Kelly doesn't posses either. Do you forget that Pavlik's work rate is pretty much unmatched in the middleweight division. He was averages an insane rate of punches a round (all though it doesn't always seem like it) I don't how you can say Lacy would smother him, when that is all Kelly does to any fighter he faces. And I don't think Calzaghe would walk through Pavlik. Pavlik has a great pace and work-rate, although not as good as Joe's, he actually packs something behind his punches.

IMO Lacy would get outclassed by Pavlik and would not last very long at all at this point.

If Taylor could hurt him that bad, Lacy can too. And didnt Taylor hurt him with a left hook or was it the looping right hand to the top of the head that got him going followed by the left hook? either way its a big if, I think if Jeff found that killer instinct he had he could come back but in order for him to do that, he must file theft charges on Calzaghe first.

If Taylor could hurt him that bad, Lacy can too.

He Cannot Ko Kelly Pavlik

Well he was shit in the Manfredo fight but everyone knows that. If he can come back to what he was when he fought Reid he would win, Imo.

I think Lacys ability to take a good shot will keep him in the fight with Pavlik and if he lets his hands go on the inside he can win, but that is a big if, if Jeff couldnt let his hands go with Manfredo I dont see it happening here

Incredible Stamina!!?!?!?!???!! this guy is burnt out in 4 rounds max. Its his INCREDIBLE heart that keeps him fighting

If Jeff regains his former self I think he would KO Pavlik. A shortish guy with a great chin and incredible stamina smothering Pavlik will really piss Pavlik off. Kelly wont be able to throw his punches and everything will be from close range. BAM Left hook and lights out for Kelly. I had to keep reading thru the thread to catch which Jeff you were speaking about. When I saw you were talking about "LACEY", one of the most overrated fighters the last ten years, I quit. .....

Although I am a big fan, I dont have a lot of faith in pavlik besides his power. However. I would guaruntee that he KO's Jeff Lacy.