Somebody take me through this. For real. I don't make threads like this but in this case we've reached an impasse. I have no idea how some of my friends here see Cotto winning. None at all sincerely.
Take me through it in technical terms, because when threads got made referring to Cotto's ability to stand up to pressure, and Cotto's chin, there were non answers and tounge in cheek responses. Some Cotto supporters have already stepped forward and said they can't pick him. It's reality time.
Fight fans, Rejoice!
Can everybody calm themselves for a moment and realize how dope this is? Two fighters at the top of their game going at it.
I'm a Margarito supporter myself, but that doesn't mean i think Cotto is gonna get a beatdown. Excluding the ever elusive (both in and out of the ring) Mayweather; Cotto easily holds the top spot in the division. Tony and Cotto match up wonderfully together.
Margarito lost to Williams and Williams lost to Quintana and Cotto wiped the floor with Quintana so Cotto wins easily...right? Everyone can throw their theories out the window. Cotto hasn't fought the 5'11 Margarito who's chin is freakin' borrowed from Iron Man's suit, and Tony hasn't fought Cotto who's left hook could probably KO Iron Man. Both fighters will have their chances, it's just whoever can capitalize.
I can't wait. See ya'll in the nosebleeds!
Anybody know where the LA presser is going to be held?
Damn good question.
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Fight fans, Rejoice!
Can everybody calm themselves for a moment and realize how dope this is? Two fighters at the top of their game going at it.
I'm a Margarito supporter myself, but that doesn't mean i think Cotto is gonna get a beatdown. Excluding the ever elusive (both in and out of the ring) Mayweather; Cotto easily holds the top spot in the division. Tony and Cotto match up wonderfully together.
Margarito lost to Williams and Williams lost to Quintana and Cotto wiped the floor with Quintana so Cotto wins easily...right? Everyone can throw their theories out the window. Cotto hasn't fought the 5'11 Margarito who's chin is freakin' borrowed from Iron Man's suit, and Tony hasn't fought Cotto who's left hook could probably KO Iron Man. Both fighters will have their chances, it's just whoever can capitalize.
I can't wait. See ya'll in the nosebleeds!
Anybody know where the LA presser is going to be held?
Yea I know.... I think twice about reading his stuff sometimes, but I get caught up in it, because people think that Cotto doesn't have a chance when he really does. I laugh..
Thinking twice, of course.
When Quintana beats Williams......sure anybody can get a pass for that.
When Buster Douglas beats Tyson.....ok
When a guy like Bradley comes out of nowhere and beats Witter..sure
When Carlos Maussa spoils the party for Harris
But when you pick Gomez...that is a sign of lack of knowledge of both Cotto's and Gomez's abilities.You used the "horse racing" analogy. When you constantly pick against Cotto.....that makes you a bad gambler.
Nuff said.
You have a special nack for throwing something completely uninformed and stupid into each post. It's a talent. This bad gambler is a pretty fucking good at gambling, numbnuts. :lol1: :lol1:
Addison...
On the serious tip...
You picked Gomez over Cotto...
SMH...
That's a serious tip? I picked Cotto's wife over him in a domestic squabble. Check my posts. Look, if you can't handle me in a technical discussion don't speak up. I saw you jacking your jaw in the other thread to Mr. Cool about the same shit. You look like a hypocrite.
Addison...
On the serious tip...
You picked Gomez over Cotto...
SMH...
Yea I know.... I think twice about reading his stuff sometimes, but I get caught up in it, because people think that Cotto doesn't have a chance when he really does. I laugh..
Ok, now you sound like moron. My facts have never betrayed me. I have always been well aware of the actual outcomes and their potential and have always detailed them in advance. I get PROPS for that.
I cannot control how my horse performs in a race. I can only hope and predict that he will have a good run.
Cotto hasn't beaten my guys because he was the better man. He got alot of help from Zab "2 Punches A Round" Judah and Shane "Is This Heaven.. No, It's Iowa" Mosley. I can't control the human factor just like nobody could control Witter when he fought on Tylenol against Bradley or Katsidis dumping and humping it to Casamayor. I'm not a psychiatrist or babysitter, chump.
When Quintana beats Williams......sure anybody can get a pass for that.
When Buster Douglas beats Tyson.....ok
When a guy like Bradley comes out of nowhere and beats Witter..sure
When Carlos Maussa spoils the party for Harris
But when you pick Gomez...that is a sign of lack of knowledge of both Cotto's and Gomez's abilities.You used the "horse racing" analogy. When you constantly pick against Cotto.....that makes you a bad gambler.
Nuff said.
I think cotto is gonna win by outboxing Margarito, cintron made margarito look 10 times better than he actually is, mainly because his defence is non existant and steward in the corner was awful, one minute telling him to go forward and the next telling him he cant go forward and that he has to box, awful.
Thing, cotto's defense has improved shitloads, he has a tight guard and better footwork, and Margarito cant defend straight punches is poor at throwing on the move.
Cotto will get margarito moving so he cant get set, and keep pumping the jab down the middle, margarito is gonna respond by throwing the usual wide hooks and that will cost him.
Whatever it was, that's why I don't take Green K's or Red K's or 1 stars or 4 stars serious. It could be a retard giving me Red K's getting all homotional insulting me or it could be a cheerleader padding me on the back telling me I'm the greatest.
Doesn't make a difference to me. I actuallly take my Red like a badge of honor. Some of the worst posters have green level imo.
That's alot of explanation for something you don't care about..
1. You need to learn the difference between fact and opinion. Because your facts have betrayed you time and time again when it comes to Cotto.
2. I only picked against Margarito once and that was against Williams. He lost. And I'm picking him to lose agains, this time against Cotto because he is a slow, no defence having - B level fighter. Cotto is A potential great fighter who has proven himself against much more accurate punchers then Margarito and passed with flying colors.
3. How's that for fresh and new cupcake? Good night :Flush:
Ok, now you sound like moron. My facts have never betrayed me. I have always been well aware of the actual outcomes and their potential and have always detailed them in advance. I get PROPS for that.
I cannot control how my horse performs in a race. I can only hope and predict that he will have a good run.
Cotto hasn't beaten my guys because he was the better man. He got alot of help from Zab "2 Punches A Round" Judah and Shane "Is This Heaven.. No, It's Iowa" Mosley. I can't control the human factor just like nobody could control Witter when he fought on Tylenol against Bradley or Katsidis dumping and humping it to Casamayor. I'm not a psychiatrist or babysitter, chump.
Getting 5 stars doesn't mean you're Jesus, silly. It means that I'm a nice guy and most other people thought you were shit.
Whatever it was, that's why I don't take Green K's or Red K's or 1 stars or 4 stars serious. It could be a retard giving me Red K's getting all homotional insulting me or it could be a cheerleader padding me on the back telling me I'm the greatest.
Doesn't make a difference to me. I actuallly take my Red like a badge of honor. Some of the worst posters have green level imo.
Ohhhh, cry me a river.
Addison called my a D-class poster.
Funny, I remember your name on top of the list of my profile for my rating. I believe you rated me as excellent.
I guess I'm not your type anymore... :kiss:
Getting 5 stars doesn't mean you're Jesus, silly. It means that I'm a nice guy and most other people thought you were shit.
You're a silly hypocrite. Talking all this mess about Margarito and accusing me of belittling Cotto when I have fact after fact to back up my argument.
1. You need to learn the difference between fact and opinion. Because your facts have betrayed you time and time again when it comes to Cotto.
2. I only picked against Margarito once and that was against Williams. He lost. And I'm picking him to lose again, this time against Cotto because he is a slow, no defence having - B level fighter. Cotto is A potential great fighter who has proven himself against much more accurate punchers then Margarito and passed with flying colors.
3. How's that for fresh and new cupcake? Good night :Flush:
Do you know how many posts I've made on this subject, Einstein? Fuck post 302. I asked for your specific take. Give me something new and fresh or fuck off to the junior leagues. You're a silly hypocrite. Talking all this mess about Margarito and accusing me of belittling Cotto when I have fact after fact to back up my argument. Get lost, chump. You're a D-class poster.
Ohhhh, cry me a river.
Addison called my a D-class poster.
Funny, I remember your name on top of the list of my profile for my rating. I believe you rated me as excellent.
I guess I'm not your type anymore... :kiss:
What are you slow. Post 302 of this thread.
I believe on Post 325.......I left you my thread about what I think will happen in this fight and what I HOPE will happen in this fight.
Don't act like someone is dodging your question, I've talked about this fight plenty. I'm not trying to convince you....I just went into the World of Addison and how you work when it comes to Cotto. You're picking with your heart, not your head is what my research tells me after looking at one of your threads.
Do you know how many posts I've made on this subject, Einstein? Fuck post 302. I asked for your specific take. Give me something new and fresh or fuck off to the junior leagues. You're a silly hypocrite. Talking all this mess about Margarito and accusing me of belittling Cotto when I have fact after fact to back up my argument. Get lost, chump. You're a D-class poster.
My take on the Mosley fight? I thought it was close - ISH but clear. I saw Cotto going backwards in the later rounds thru choice rather than nessacity, he still had crisp powerfull shots tagging Sugar while on the backfoot. If u watch Cotto's early fights (which u probably have being the boxing Junkie u r!) U'll see him do that from time to time just showing something else. Then again he may hav been a tad tired but nothing that he couldnt handle.
I have a little theory on why Cotto was seemingly tired in the late rounds. It appeared that Cotto was fighting extremely tense and coiled throughout. I think that helped deplete his energy reserves - but it also helped protect Cotto from some of the damaging punches Mosley was connecting with.
In the past when Cotto has been caught he was loose. Too loose maybe for his constitution. I think he's determined that clenching up when he takes a big shot enables him to withstand the hit better. It's also exhausting of course.
Anyways, just a silly aside from me..
Underrating? NOPE. And you will see that. What are you stalling for?
Nothing to say about Margarito? Nothing to say about this fight?
What are you slow. Post 302 of this thread.
I believe on Post 325.......I left you my thread about what I think will happen in this fight and what I HOPE will happen in this fight.
Don't act like someone is dodging your question, I've talked about this fight plenty. I'm not trying to convince you....I just went into the World of Addison and how you work when it comes to Cotto. You're picking with your heart, not your head is what my research tells me after looking at one of your threads.
I'd believe you if there weren't indications of flaws and weaknesses in all of his recent wins, R1. I'm looking at all of this with genuine impartiality believe it or not. The job is just waiting to be done on Cotto. The only problem has been there hasn't been a complete performance by anyone in a position to do it.
Mosley for example, could have collapsed on Cotto much sooner in the fight and the whole thing would have looked like the 9th round onward with Cotto backpeddling and reeling from attack. Cotto wasn't hurt in those late rounds - he just couldn't stand being pressured and he doesn't take a good punch especially well. Mosley had Cotto buzzed several times earlier in the fight, but decided to do nothing about it but dance away for whatever reason.
Margarito isn't just going to win. He's going to decimate Cotto.
But what's your take, R1? How do you see it?
My take on the Mosley fight? I thought it was close - ISH but clear. I saw Cotto going backwards in the later rounds thru choice rather than nessacity, he still had crisp powerfull shots tagging Sugar while on the backfoot. If u watch Cotto's early fights (which u probably have being the boxing Junkie u r!) U'll see him do that from time to time just showing something else. Then again he may hav been a tad tired but nothing that he couldnt handle.