Mayweather clearly lost...
Castillo threw more, landed more, he hurt Mayweather, he landed more power-punches...
Now that's what I call a straight up robbery!
I've already made a thread about this a long time ago for those who keep saying that FLOYD CLEARLY LOST. Clearly he didn't:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144398
I just watched the fight and here is how I scored it:
Round 1 - Floyd 10-9
Round 2 - Floyd 10-9
Round 3 - Floyd 10-9
Round 4 - Castillo 9-10
Round 5 - Floyd 10-9
Round 6 - Castillo 9-10
Round 7 - Castillo 9-10
Round 8 - Floyd 10-8 - Ref took away point from Castillo and Floyd was winning the Round.
Round 9 - Floyd 10-9
Round 10 - 9-9 - Ref took away point from Floyd and it was his best round of the fight.
Round 11 - Castillo 9-10 - Floyd stood right in front of him and they traded body shots. Castillo got the better of it.
Round 12 - Castillo 9-10 Castillo's most active round. He threw alot of combinations. His best round.
TOTAL = 114-112
6 rounds to 5 and 1 even.
Winner - Floyd Mayweather
I ended up with the same score also. not sure about the exact rounds, but no way could Castillo be said to have won that when he lost 4-5 of the first 6 rounds.
he an unbiased Ref though
I honestly can't tell you which is worse, an unbiased, imcompetant ref, or a biased competant ref.
Same with judges.
If one fighter clearly wins 7 rounds, and two judges both have it 8 to 4 for the other guy (one purposely giving rounds to the guy who didn't deserve them, and one being really bad at scoring, but trying his best to be fair), which one is worse? It's the same end result isn't it?
Time to bump the old robbery thread.
post the link to the thread you made today and for the record it was a robbery but not in the traditional sense in that Castillo was robbed of the CLOSE decision he deserved win or lose the scorecards should have been much closer.
Well fair enough then.
If that's the case, then Castillo should have been penalized for hitting Mayweather on the back, because that is never legal to throw a punch when looking at your opponent's back.
Idk, either way, the referee looked mighty confused as to what to do for the majority of the bout.
Hitting a person's back is far worse then forearming someones face to make room. Floyd only uses his foreman to make room for his shots.
It's either do that or push off (which would probably lead to him using headbutts like the Diaz Campbell fight when they were both trying to use their head to create open room).
Man look at the compustats and compare them. The Castillo-fight was a whole different story.
Castillo landed more, landed the cleaner and better shots. Floyd should have a L on his record. He is a better boxer than Castillo but he lost the fight- Period.
i dont see how could you score any of the first four to five rounds for
castillo
and if you were to tell me that mayweather didnt win the two rounds
after that you're delusional.
Next time you watch a fight turn the volume off because there is a thing
called "the mexican effect" where a mexican fighter throws a punch that
hits nothing or grazes a shoulder or something and the crowd(mostly
mexican) goes wild. this fools you into thinking that the fighter did
something when in reality he did nothing.
i didn't know calzaghe was mexican till now.
also another thing with the "mexican effect" is when a fighter does do some
thing good the crowd exaggerates.
examples of this can be seen in pbf-dlh where de la hoya is throwing
combos but floyd is rolling them and moving his head ocassionally a shot
lands; The pro de la hoya crowd goes crazy as if he knocks floyd out
this also happens during castillo-mayweather I.
Its like somebody laughing hard at a joke thats funny but not that funny
but still laughs hard anyway.
So Floyd using his forarm didnt warrent having a point taken away? YES_ OR N0_ ??
imconfused :ugh:
I don't think it was overly dramatic, causing cuts, etc.
I thought the point deduction wasn't necessary.
I also didn't think the shot after the break from Castillo was so dramatic that it warranted taking a point.
Like I said though, if Castillo got a point for hitting on the break, the time when Floyd hit after the bell should have been penalized for the sake of equality.
Finally, the hitting on the back by Castillo (the time when he got behind Floyd and unloaded four or five shots to the kidney) was terrible, and he didn't get so much as a warning.
i dont see how could you score any of the first four to five rounds for
castillo
and if you were to tell me that mayweather didnt win the two rounds
after that you're delusional.
Next time you watch a fight turn the volume off because there is a thing
called "the mexican effect" where a mexican fighter throws a punch that
hits nothing or grazes a shoulder or something and the crowd(mostly
mexican) goes wild. this fools you into thinking that the fighter did
something when in reality he did nothing.
Repeatedly sticking your forearm in someones face is ILLEGAL. :duh:
So is hitting after the break.
Neither was so severe that a point should have been taken away.
If Castillo got penalized for hitting after the break, Floyd should have been for hitting after the bell.
Also, Castillo unloading on Floyd's back was pretty bad.
I'll say it again, Drakulich looked overwhelmed to be in there.
there are robberys all the time in boxing, the point is he came back and won the rematch... .. . so get over stop being bitches, if Floyd gets robbed in a fight u guys will be the happiest ever.
I'd give round 5 to Castillo and Floyd round 4, but other then that I agree. I've watched this fight countless times and I can see it for either guy or a draw
As you always say, it is a fight that needs to be watched very closely.
I'd give round 5 to Castillo and Floyd round 4, but other then that I agree. I've watched this fight countless times and I can see it for either guy or a draw
That's fair enough. I think the thread creator needs to stop watching highlights of this fight where they only show the good stuff that Castillo did and actually watch the entire fight round by round.
Looks like the highlights from Espn's The Contender.
I've already made a thread about this a long time ago for those who keep saying that FLOYD CLEARLY LOST. Clearly he didn't:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144398
I just watched the fight and here is how I scored it:
Round 1 - Floyd 10-9
Round 2 - Floyd 10-9
Round 3 - Floyd 10-9
Round 4 - Castillo 9-10
Round 5 - Floyd 10-9
Round 6 - Castillo 9-10
Round 7 - Castillo 9-10
Round 8 - Floyd 10-8 - Ref took away point from Castillo and Floyd was winning the Round.
Round 9 - Floyd 10-9
Round 10 - 9-9 - Ref took away point from Floyd and it was his best round of the fight.
Round 11 - Castillo 9-10 - Floyd stood right in front of him and they traded body shots. Castillo got the better of it.
Round 12 - Castillo 9-10 Castillo's most active round. He threw alot of combinations. His best round.
TOTAL = 114-112
6 rounds to 5 and 1 even.
Winner - Floyd Mayweather
I'd give round 5 to Castillo and Floyd round 4, but other then that I agree. I've watched this fight countless times and I can see it for either guy or a draw