People can talk all the shit they want but at the end of the day they have no choice but to respect the guy, he has fought ALLOT of great fighters but what got my attention is his Schedule, he's talking about fighting Mayweather and after that he wants the Cotto vs Margarito winner, these guys are both some beast in their prime! how crazy would it be if he could pull it off? not saying that he would but the guy has some balls.
oscar was a 135 pounder himself so what's the arguement, i dont get it
the thing is, he didnt HAVE to KO Forbes to send a message. But Oscar is an ELITE fight or is trying to convince people that he STILL is an elite fighter. Elite fighters dominate weaker competition. Oscar should have been more busier, more dominant than what he showed in MY opinion. I personally never said he looked bad but he didnt look "great" to me.
Yes, Oscar was a lightweight as recently as 1995. He fought at middleweight just a few years ago. This was clearly a size and power mistmatch to insure a safe outcome for The Golden Boy.
exactly, now if you say that pavlik is fighting 2 150lbs fighting forbes there is a big difference pavlik has never been 135lbs well maybe when he was 11 or 12, but dlh @ 147-150lbs is big, strong and fast for anyone in the division,
i don't care what anybody says, and i know oscar can beat floyd this time around
oscar was a 135 pounder himself so what's the arguement, i dont get it
Yes, Oscar was a lightweight as recently as 1995. He fought at middleweight just a few years ago. This was clearly a size and power mistmatch to insure a safe outcome for The Golden Boy.
No it is the different. Hatton was unbeaten in over 40 fights and a multiple world champion. Quite a few people gave him a chance to win. Forbes was a jr welter fighting a jr middle at 150 lbs. The odds on him winning were at least 10-1. So Oscar had his tune up, fine. But the thread starter was complaining that he wasn't getting due credit for it. He got at least as much credit as he deserved.
oscar was a 135 pounder himself so what's the arguement, i dont get it
shut up it was a tune-up fight.
floyd did get slack for doing the same...
know what the difference was?
floyd fought a 140lb fighter by the name of Ricky Hatton (since you didnt know judging by your post that said, "floyd would have been crucified for doing the same thing") for a big PPV fight...
oscar's was a tune-up for the floyd rematch.
floyd fought hatton as a legit threat on ppv for $50-$55.
thats the difference.
if oscar fought forbes on ppv (or tried to sell it as more than a tune-up) then it would be different.
No it is the different. Hatton was unbeaten in over 40 fights and a multiple world champion. Quite a few people gave him a chance to win. Forbes was a jr welter fighting a jr middle at 150 lbs. The odds on him winning were at least 10-1. So Oscar had his tune up, fine. But the thread starter was complaining that he wasn't getting due credit for it. He got at least as much credit as he deserved.
why ?
he has heart and guts....the least that can be said is that he is taking risks by fighting the best regardless who it is, unlike floydexactly ...they are just hating cuz it wasnt floyd who beat 2 pound
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also keep in mind oscar is coming from a year lay-off so he is getting his timing and rhythm back
yeah jus like judah had a yr. off & got hit in da balls twice, early...
Forbes > Gomez
Forbes > Baldomir
forbes also had trouble with an inactive francisco bojado. or whatever his name is. i actually thought panchito won that fight.
So its becuase he didnt stop Forbes? that is why he looked like shit? Look Oscar doesnt need to convince casual fight fans, they already come to see him fight.
I think the real reason people say he look like shit is simply becuase they just hate the man PERIOD. most of these people that are casting their opinions like this are Floyd fans, and does this surprise you? I mean we are talking about the same people that make excuses for Floyd not to fight the best in his divison.
Why should this be any surprise? look the rematch will happen and if Oscar pulls it out, these same people that are talking shit will do the same even if Oscar knocks out Floyd, nothing Oscar does will be good enough.
Floyd better win this rematch becuase if he doesnt, Oscar will retire after Cotto, and if Floyd wants to continue to make BIG money in this sport a loss against a semi retired DLH isnt going to help matters at all.
I'm not hating on Oscar at all. I just think people get out of hand with their praise, to the point of not being objective at all. Oscar looked good-in shape, good timing, good speed, etc. etc. BUT Forbes looked good too. Thats all. And if Forbes is as much of a scrub as some of these taints on here are saying, then it should have been a slaughter. It wasn't. It was a clean points win, but to hear the HBO sniffers tell it, Oscar could have turned Forbes into salt with little more than a steely gaze.
why isn't cotto tacked for his tune-up sort of say,
im not defending oscar but he did not look that bad saturday,
he was exploiting 12 rds on his toes, yeah he said he was looking for a knock-out he also said he hurt his left hand, forbes has a chin and was punching back, cotto vs gomez was not like that.....we all know for a tune-up forbes was not going to be that easy, i think oscar did good not great by winning a UD, which floyd would of done the same maybe with less action
no one is hating on Oscar because he had a tune up, if anything why are certain people so forgiving of Oscar for fighting a tune up but then criticize Cotto for it?
anyway, i think its the fact that Oscar, being the legend that he is, wasnt able to get Forbes out of there like he should have. not that he fought Forbes, but that he wasnt able to get him out of there. Oscar needed to send a message to casual fans. He needed to show what he plans to do in Mayweather/DLH 2 so that people can justify the purchase. He DEFINITELY didnt want to go all 12 rounds with Forbes. That was obviously not part of the plan. He needed fireworks. He needed noise. He got SOME of that. Just like Mayweather/DLH I, people were expecting a lot more which they didnt get.
Fighting a soft punching 140 lb boxer for millions wasn't exactly taking a big risk. Floyd would have been crucified for doing the same thing.
Didnt Floyd just fight Ricky Hatton?
we're hard on him because he's tanned and handsome.
why isn't cotto tacked for his tune-up sort of say,
im not defending oscar but he did not look that bad saturday,
he was exploiting 12 rds on his toes, yeah he said he was looking for a knock-out he also said he hurt his left hand, forbes has a chin and was punching back, cotto vs gomez was not like that.....we all know for a tune-up forbes was not going to be that easy, i think oscar did good not great by winning a UD, which floyd would of done the same maybe with less action
why ?
he has heart and guts....the least that can be said is that he is taking risks by fighting the best regardless who it is, unlike floyd
Fighting a soft punching 140 lb boxer for millions wasn't exactly taking a big risk. Floyd would have been crucified for doing the same thing.