What type of fighter is best against Floyd?

Shane Mosley. i'd rather he fought Mosley before fighting Cotto tbh out of most fighters id pick Mosley woud be my least favoured the guy has showed zero ability to adapt in his biggest fights if something is not working for him he just tries harder but he does 'nt change much IMO HE did better against Forrest in second fight with a slight adjustment but Forrest soon adjusted to what Shane was doing

Shane Mosley. i'd rather he fought Mosley before fighting Cotto tbh

somebody with a jab who can pressure and work that body...

You need to be strong and willing to punch first and punch again when Floyd counters. Make him wary of punching. A pure counter puncher could also beat him with enough patience and power.

yeah i can see what your saying as Toney did have a tendency to bend to his right from the waist instead of from his legs & a lot off the time his head was facing the floor i think the main thing is not to fall into the trap of letting Floyd take away your reach by getting to close Thing with Mayweather is, his reach is longer than most of the people he is matched up against. But I agree, you can't get lured into fighting his fight, if you do, it'll be a long night.

Mayweather's defense is more complex than Toney's though, Toney normally would always duck down to his right to slip punches, Mayweather isn't as predictable. If you start attacking Mayweather from the right side and start throwing left hooks at him, Mayweather can just counter with his own left hook, Toney couldn't do that because he wasn't in position, but Mayweather can. And Mayweather's defense is deceptive, it always looks like you can get to him with a left hook, but it's not as easy as it looks because he right hand is always in position to block or parry the shot. I agree with the rest of what you said though. yeah i can see what your saying as Toney did have a tendency to bend to his right from the waist instead of from his legs & a lot off the time his head was facing the floor i think the main thing is not to fall into the trap of letting Floyd take away your reach by getting to close

tony isnt mayweather.. I think mayweather could pottentially have a hard time vs a cotto, Cotto is young has developed a great jab and versatillity also is arrogant and puts pressure and body punching, he wont break down mentally like a hatton, or fade like delahoya. But mayweather we know can do any style, hes complete. The only way to beat him convincingly is when he gets old or doesnt train properly. This guys has all the skill, all the experience, he trains exceptionally hard, and is able to adapt inside the ring and keep thinking, also when in trouble he can speed up the last 6 rounds, instead of winding down. You gotta be a exceptional fighter to get some good odds vs mayweather. no one is saying he is Toney but he employs the same defensive shell that people find difficult to pentatrate but there are ways to combat it like not not getting to close & turning your shots all the way over like Dela Hoya did when he got hit with that left hook etc BTW i think u are overating Floyd he got beat by J L Castillo :nonono:

Ha Ha my thoughts exactly u have the same philosophies as i do when it comes to Boxing i agree 1000% it does'nt matter how tall u are when fighting fighters like James Toney & Floyd Mayweather because they take your reach away from u without u even realising because u become frustrated on the outside trying to hit them , u get closer & closer & u become unaware of how close u are because they are just as good in the pocket then u are obviously more suceptable to counter punchers when u are in range ,when u miss from that position a 6 inch punch can counter u the way to have success against these type of fighters IMO is to step to your right & throw the left hooks & try to keep the fight on the outside by jabbing to the shoulder and chest , fighters like Toney & Floyd rely on making u lead to them and the closer u get the more success they have cause u are there to be countered ,IMO u have to keep your weight in a central position when u are attacking and jab to the shoulder & chest cause when u put your weight on the front foot & start reaching that is when they counter with the right hand over the top u need to centralise your weight & dont turn your shots all the way over the where they Floyd /Toney can roll the shoulder and come back with punches usually the right hand just pitty patty pile up points keep moving to there right & crank the left hooks up when u get there a bit like what Roy did when he beat Toney perfect stratgey ,if Holyfiled had not stood infront of Toney and attacked from him from the right hand side he would not have been owned as badly as he was probably still would have lost but Mayweather's defense is more complex than Toney's though, Toney normally would always duck down to his right to slip punches, Mayweather isn't as predictable. If you start attacking Mayweather from the right side and start throwing left hooks at him, Mayweather can just counter with his own left hook, Toney couldn't do that because he wasn't in position, but Mayweather can. And Mayweather's defense is deceptive, it always looks like you can get to him with a left hook, but it's not as easy as it looks because he right hand is always in position to block or parry the shot. I agree with the rest of what you said though.

tony isnt mayweather.. I think mayweather could pottentially have a hard time vs a cotto, Cotto is young has developed a great jab and versatillity also is arrogant and puts pressure and body punching, he wont break down mentally like a hatton, or fade like delahoya. But mayweather we know can do any style, hes complete. The only way to beat him convincingly is when he gets old or doesnt train properly. This guys has all the skill, all the experience, he trains exceptionally hard, and is able to adapt inside the ring and keep thinking, also when in trouble he can speed up the last 6 rounds, instead of winding down. You gotta be a exceptional fighter to get some good odds vs mayweather.

The best punch you can utilize against Mayweather is a sharp, snapping jab right in his chest to keep him defensive and off balance. A fighter who has that type of jab and applies educated pressure mixed with a bit of counter punching would have the best success with Mayweather IMO. Ha Ha my thoughts exactly u have the same philosophies as i do when it comes to Boxing i agree 1000% it does'nt matter how tall u are when fighting fighters like James Toney & Floyd Mayweather because they take your reach away from u without u even realising because u become frustrated on the outside trying to hit them , u get closer & closer & u become unaware of how close u are because they are just as good in the pocket then u are obviously more suceptable to counter punchers when u are in range ,when u miss from that position a 6 inch punch can counter u the way to have success against these type of fighters IMO is to step to your right & throw the left hooks & try to keep the fight on the outside by jabbing to the shoulder and chest , fighters like Toney & Floyd rely on making u lead to them and the closer u get the more success they have cause u are there to be countered ,IMO u have to keep your weight in a central position when u are attacking and jab to the shoulder & chest cause when u put your weight on the front foot & start reaching that is when they counter with the right hand over the top u need to centralise your weight & dont turn your shots all the way over the where they Floyd /Toney can roll the shoulder and come back with punches usually the right hand just pitty patty pile up points keep moving to there right & crank the left hooks up when u get there a bit like what Roy did when he beat Toney perfect stratgey ,if Holyfiled had not stood infront of Toney and attacked from him from the right hand side he would not have been owned as badly as he was probably still would have lost but

A pressure fighter with an awesome jab, sick stamina and a great workrate.

Pressure fighter? Skilled boxer? It seems like more and more people are starting to believe that a skillful boxer is the type that would give Floyd more trouble. What is a good set of skills against Floyd? A stiff jab? A good left hook? Someone with orthodox skills? or more of an unconventional fighter? who cares?:ugh:

Someone active with good reflexes and a great jab. I reckon only way to beat him is too outwork him

I believe there is no one style that can beat floyd. in reality ANY style can beat and style; mattering on the skill level of the fighters and how well one imposes their style on the other and so on. I think to beat floyd you can't be one dimensional...you dont have to be outstanding in any certain category but you have to be at least good in a wide range of categories because floyd adapts well and makes adjustments so his opponent must also be able to make adjustments to give floyd a loss. you cant go in there and just expect to bang away at mayweather and get a win...nor can you expect to just simply out box him... floyd is generally faster than about 90% of all his opponents and his defense is superior to a good 85% of all his opponents. floyd's reflexes are still top notch. So what do you do to a fight like floyd to win? you exploit the weaknesses he has... Floyd doesnt like being attacked to the body (at all) and doesnt defense against it well (see the Castillo/mayweather fight). Jose Luis Castillo focused on mainly nothing but the body...and it was working...floyd would get slower as the fight goes on because attacks to the body hurt more (than head shots) and it sucks the stamina out of you...not to mention even the softest punching boxer can score a knockdown on a body punch thats placed correctly. Secondly; pick up where oscar picked up; work off the jab... face it; if you dont have a good jab you arent going to have much chance at beating floyd...floyd is a terrific boxer who has all the talent a fighter (currently) can have...you might not be able to outbox him but dont expect to get in close to flurry if you have no jab...he will make you pay if you dont use a jab (see the hatton fight). i believe trying to be quick like mayweather (and chase him around the ring) is also not the answer (see the de la hoya fight) all it does is tire you out but you dont accomplish much...counterpunching and timing will beat mayweather no matter how fast he is. so basic points: Work the body A good jab keep the tempo of the fight up (floyd likes to fight slow) beat floyds punch output counterpunching and timing (to offset mayweather's speed). doing those things will give you a MUCH better chance at beating mayweather. word, in order to beat floyd you need to be a good, strong counterpuncher, and have power. I think if a good fighter with alot of boxing skill, and power, with good counterpunching abilitly gets in the ring with floyd he can beat him.

I believe there is no one style that can beat floyd. in reality ANY style can beat and style; mattering on the skill level of the fighters and how well one imposes their style on the other and so on. I think to beat floyd you can't be one dimensional...you dont have to be outstanding in any certain category but you have to be at least good in a wide range of categories because floyd adapts well and makes adjustments so his opponent must also be able to make adjustments to give floyd a loss. you cant go in there and just expect to bang away at mayweather and get a win...nor can you expect to just simply out box him... floyd is generally faster than about 90% of all his opponents and his defense is superior to a good 85% of all his opponents. floyd's reflexes are still top notch. So what do you do to a fight like floyd to win? you exploit the weaknesses he has... Floyd doesnt like being attacked to the body (at all) and doesnt defense against it well (see the Castillo/mayweather fight). Jose Luis Castillo focused on mainly nothing but the body...and it was working...floyd would get slower as the fight goes on because attacks to the body hurt more (than head shots) and it sucks the stamina out of you...not to mention even the softest punching boxer can score a knockdown on a body punch thats placed correctly. Secondly; pick up where oscar picked up; work off the jab... face it; if you dont have a good jab you arent going to have much chance at beating floyd...floyd is a terrific boxer who has all the talent a fighter (currently) can have...you might not be able to outbox him but dont expect to get in close to flurry if you have no jab...he will make you pay if you dont use a jab (see the hatton fight). i believe trying to be quick like mayweather (and chase him around the ring) is also not the answer (see the de la hoya fight) all it does is tire you out but you dont accomplish much...counterpunching and timing will beat mayweather no matter how fast he is. so basic points: Work the body A good jab keep the tempo of the fight up (floyd likes to fight slow) beat floyds punch output counterpunching and timing (to offset mayweather's speed). doing those things will give you a MUCH better chance at beating mayweather. I agree for the most part. I think that Mayweather's defense for bodyshots has improved since the Castillo fight and is very good now. I also think Mayweather fights at a slow pace because he wants to, not because he has to, and that he can up his workrate if he really wanted to. But a fighter definitely has to be versatile if he wants to beat Mayweather.

The best punch you can utilize against Mayweather is a sharp, snapping jab right in his chest to keep him defensive and off balance. A fighter who has that type of jab and applies educated pressure mixed with a bit of counter punching would have the best success with Mayweather IMO.