Will Floyd Go Down As An Altyme Great!!

I think in the long run Floyd will be seen as a top twenty ATG, maybe higher. Like Roy Jones, his skills are such that it is possible to predict with a fair degree of confidence that he would have been able to compete pretty well with the greats of any era. It is hard to imagine anyone saying that now, but I think that the passage of time tends to add lustre to any top level career, as fans look back fondly on the greatest fighters of their youth. As time goes on all this "he should have fought him, no him, no him" will be forgotten, and we will be left tending to evaluate Floyd on his skills, which from where I stand, are top of the line. Also, he's not finished yet, and may go on to fight Cotto, and who knows who else at welter and higher weights. He might not do too, but I for one think that there is still more to come from Floyd. We'll have to wait and see. Excellent post sir :biggthump

I could name 20 boxers in history who are better then Mayweather.. I reckon he's about... 35 AT now If he beats Cotto and another top welterweight he would be scraping my top 10. But you have to prove it, no point everyone thinking your the best you have to prove it

yes for what he did before WW. His resume is unfuckable with.

I put PBF in the top 50 of all time... He has fought real champions that's why he is one of the handful of fighters to ever hold 3 lineal titles in 3 different classes (superfeather, lightweight, welterweight). Not to mention that he beat the lineal champ at jww too (hatton). At superfeather and lightweight Floyd will be argued as being one of the best ever in those divisions. People easily forget that floyd started his career at superfeather Don't just look at his ww stint to determine if he's great or not, look at his overall career. Genaro Hernandez (hall of famer, only lost before PBF was to Oscar at a Higher weight class) Deigo Corrales (hall of famer, one of the best super featherweights and lightweigts of our time was on the top 10 pound 4 pound list and undefeated before floyd demolished him. Luis Castillo (hall of famer, one of the best at lightweights of our time ) Based on these victories alone he would already be considered a hall of famer. Now look at all the current and former LINEAL champs he's beaten not titlist: The three aforementioned Zab Judah (hall of fame) Oscar de la Hoya (hall of fame) Carlos Baldomir (whether folks like it or not he was the LINEAL WW champ; he deserves some form of credit for that) Rick Hatton (hall of fame) Sharmba Mitchell (i think, someone check that for me :) ) When he fights Cotto and beats him, that easily puts him in the top 30 of all time because at that point he would have beaten the best fighers in four diff weight classes!. No matter how you look at it, that's impressive. I'm a fan of cotto but with all due respect he's yet to become the lineal champ of any division. He's beat former champs (Mosely and Judah), but he's not in the history books as a champion yet.not to mention hamed, mosley, and oscar wouldn't even fight him, and mosley and oscar waited until his speed diminished slightly before calling him out. and, hatton and cotto dodged him at 140, cassamayor and frietez ducked him, well maybe not cassa, but acelinto sure did, mosley dodged him at 135, kosta lost to hatton, who floyd knocked out, margarito calls him out when floyd was looking for a fight with oscar, and then fought a guy named baldomir who hadn't lost in 8 years, beat gatti and judah, held the wbc ww title, a title which floyd has always fought for, the title he held the highest, and most others did also, dominated him, beat oscar more convincingly than the socred indicated, and knocked the shit out of hatton. i'd put him top 3 skillwise with ray robinson and ali as overall skills go when it came to dominance, resume wise, i'd put him top 20, maybe top 15 as far as how fast he accomplished what he did, the greatest fighter of his era, bar none.

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Hall of Fame career.. Yes. Greatest of all time or top 20 of all time.. No. not yet anyway... not close

I could name 20 boxers in history who are better then Mayweather..then go and fucking name them then bitch. i can tell people i'll jump off a roof, but it don't mean shit until i actually do it. and seeing as though you're only one in maybe millions of people who watch boxing, you're list is subjective anyway. skillwise, i'd put floyd top 5, hell top 3 boxer i've seen fight pro ever. his skills are a testament to time, bar none, he has all time great skills. his resume will be looked back on and the way he moved up, and how fast he moved up and won titles and the way he dominated his opponents will make him an all time great. shit, he already is. and for the thread starter, i agree with your 1st post, floyd isn't an altyme great, nobody is, but he is damn sure an all time great. learn how to spell the fucking word first you little vagina.

mabey some more wwe or another oscar and hatton fight!!we have been waiting so long to see these fights............lol............cotto will be ranked higher than floyd in the ww statuss that is mabey even in his legacy.....the only thing floyd has on cotto is that he started at a smaller weight class..whooptie....... That my friend IS a big DEAL whether you admit it or not... not only did he start in lower classes than cotto but he was the LINEAL CHAMP in those divisions...

As the so called "P4P King" that's what he should be doing clean up the welterweight division he's letting Cotto do the job Floyd should be doing.

He is HOF material, but i wouldnt say GOAT. If he doenst try to make his mark in the WW division prior to retireing, he will definitely have some ??? at the back of his name.

WHO HAS HE BEAT THAT WOULD GIVE HIM THAT STAUSS......ALL HE HAS DONE IS JUMP UPED TO DIFFEENT WEIGHT CLASSES WITH OUT FIGHTING THE REAL CHAMPS IN THE DIVISION....HES A PICKUM BUM AND HE KNOWS IT HE HAS NO GUT SO HOW CAN HE RECIVE THE GLORY OF A REAL CHAMP.....FLOYD IS THE SORRIEST CHAMP WE HAVE EVER HAD IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING......I DONT THINK THEIR HAS EVER BEEN A FIGHTER WHO HAS PUBLICLY DUCKED FIGHTERS LIKE HE DOES....IT IS SAFE TO SAY COTTO IS THE REAL CHAMP EVEN IF HE LOSES TO TONY ......CUZ EVERY CHAMP HAS A LOSS ON HIS RECORD CAUSE REAL CHAMPS TAKE RISKS!!:boxing: I put PBF in the top 50 of all time... He has fought real champions that's why he is one of the handful of fighters to ever hold 3 lineal titles in 3 different classes (superfeather, lightweight, welterweight). Not to mention that he beat the lineal champ at jww too (hatton). At superfeather and lightweight Floyd will be argued as being one of the best ever in those divisions. People easily forget that floyd started his career at superfeather Don't just look at his ww stint to determine if he's great or not, look at his overall career. Genaro Hernandez (hall of famer, only lost before PBF was to Oscar at a Higher weight class) Deigo Corrales (hall of famer, one of the best super featherweights and lightweigts of our time was on the top 10 pound 4 pound list and undefeated before floyd demolished him. Luis Castillo (hall of famer, one of the best at lightweights of our time ) Based on these victories alone he would already be considered a hall of famer. Now look at all the current and former LINEAL champs he's beaten not titlist: The three aforementioned Zab Judah (hall of fame) Oscar de la Hoya (hall of fame) Carlos Baldomir (whether folks like it or not he was the LINEAL WW champ; he deserves some form of credit for that) Rick Hatton (hall of fame) Sharmba Mitchell (i think, someone check that for me :) ) When he fights Cotto and beats him, that easily puts him in the top 30 of all time because at that point he would have beaten the best fighers in four diff weight classes!. No matter how you look at it, that's impressive. I'm a fan of cotto but with all due respect he's yet to become the lineal champ of any division. He's beat former champs (Mosely and Judah), but he's not in the history books as a champion yet.

If Cotto keeps cleaning up the welterweight division and Floyd retires without fighting him Cotto should be higher than him.

I could name 20 boxers in history who are better then Mayweather.. Mayweather is on the verge of top 20 though, there or thereabouts.

I think in the long run Floyd will be seen as a top twenty ATG, maybe higher. Like Roy Jones, his skills are such that it is possible to predict with a fair degree of confidence that he would have been able to compete pretty well with the greats of any era. It is hard to imagine anyone saying that now, but I think that the passage of time tends to add lustre to any top level career, as fans look back fondly on the greatest fighters of their youth. As time goes on all this "he should have fought him, no him, no him" will be forgotten, and we will be left tending to evaluate Floyd on his skills, which from where I stand, are top of the line. Also, he's not finished yet, and may go on to fight Cotto, and who knows who else at welter and higher weights. He might not do too, but I for one think that there is still more to come from Floyd. We'll have to wait and see.mabey some more wwe or another oscar and hatton fight!!we have been waiting so long to see these fights............lol............cotto will be ranked higher than floyd in the ww statuss that is mabey even in his legacy.....the only thing floyd has on cotto is that he started at a smaller weight class..whooptie.......

I think in the long run Floyd will be seen as a top twenty ATG, maybe higher. Like Roy Jones, his skills are such that it is possible to predict with a fair degree of confidence that he would have been able to compete pretty well with the greats of any era. It is hard to imagine anyone saying that now, but I think that the passage of time tends to add lustre to any top level career, as fans look back fondly on the greatest fighters of their youth. As time goes on all this "he should have fought him, no him, no him" will be forgotten, and we will be left tending to evaluate Floyd on his skills, which from where I stand, are top of the line. Also, he's not finished yet, and may go on to fight Cotto, and who knows who else at welter and higher weights. He might not do too, but I for one think that there is still more to come from Floyd. We'll have to wait and see. I could name 20 boxers in history who are better then Mayweather..

He's a certified HOF and probably the best of this era.

I think in the long run Floyd will be seen as a top twenty ATG, maybe higher. Like Roy Jones, his skills are such that it is possible to predict with a fair degree of confidence that he would have been able to compete pretty well with the greats of any era. It is hard to imagine anyone saying that now, but I think that the passage of time tends to add lustre to any top level career, as fans look back fondly on the greatest fighters of their youth. As time goes on all this "he should have fought him, no him, no him" will be forgotten, and we will be left tending to evaluate Floyd on his skills, which from where I stand, are top of the line. Also, he's not finished yet, and may go on to fight Cotto, and who knows who else at welter and higher weights. He might not do too, but I for one think that there is still more to come from Floyd. We'll have to wait and see.

All Tyme Great .......never...unless He Grows Some Cujones!!

He's definitely a HOF boxer, even if he retires now and never faces Cotto. That All time P4P GOAT talk is just smart marketing to get us talking about him. And it has worked wonderfully.

Hall of Fame career.. Yes. Greatest of all time or top 20 of all time.. No.