WTF is up with this Kesller character being a world beater?

hahahaha One shot is all it takes though...especially with Roys chin...and Mirandas right hand..not a good mixture. Yeah he will always have a punchers chance I suppose. What it made me think of though is Johnson vs. Miranda. Now that would be a barn burner.

I went with Miranda vs. Jones becase we would all watch that fight while Miranda is getting his ass kicked waiting for that right hand to put Roy to sleep..eventually he'll get caught and then its nap time. Yeah unless Jones gets totally gassed, I cannot see Miranda having much luck in there with him!LOL I just visualized that fight in my head and man, it was not pretty!haha

How about??? Miranda vs. Roy Jones Kessler vs. Taylor Lacy vs. Green Mundine vs. Butte I lost faith in Lacy. Jones would struggle to make weight. Green well I am not sure where he even stands right now, but if he fights lacy I think he beats him.

How about??? Miranda vs. Roy Jones Kessler vs. Taylor Lacy vs. Green Mundine vs. Butte The next Bob Arum? Looks like a great card. I'd replace Miranda with Calzaghe, since that fight is probably more likely, and Miranda is off to go try to beat Abraham, but other than that... that looks great. All of those fighters are basically at the same place in theri careers, except for the Mirands/Jones fight.

Both are two of my favoites, and that would be one hell of a fight.. I think Jermain gives Kessler a good and tough fight. but I do believe Kessler pulls it off, 116-112. I am not sure Kessler beats him, but it would be a close fight and a great learning experience for Kessler win or lose. kessler needs fights like that.

Im not sure as to whp would win that one yet...but it would defintly be a good scrap. Sure as hell would :boxing: .

Taylor vs. Kessler spounds good too though at 168.... Yeah Kessler against Taylor and Miranda and also Taylor against Miranda are the only fights I am interested in at 168. There is really nothing else at 168 that interests me.

Taylor vs. Kessler spounds good too though at 168.... Both are two of my favoites, and that would be one hell of a fight.. I think Jermain gives Kessler a good and tough fight. but I do believe Kessler pulls it off, 116-112.

Yep...Dawson is stiull too green.... Glen Johnson v. Kessler....sounds good to me. I think Kessler should move up to 175. He is definitely big enough. Some good hardened guys up there also to fight. He needs a change of scenery anyway.

I think Winky is too small for Kessler... JKessler is screwed....I say fight Glen Johnson, Tarver, RJJ, Miranda. Glen Johnson... I like the sound of that.

I felt Winky won that fight. But like you said, Kessler is a harder puncher, same height as Taylor and he is the natural bigger guy. The problem with Taylor, who is one of the most talented guys in boxing, is that he always seems to fight at the level of his opponents. With all the guys he fought in the past 3 years, the decisions were all close considering the vastly different styles of each fighter he fought. If Taylor has his head on straight he could beat anyone. Winky is very gifted, but should stick to 160 or less. His frame just does not handle higher weights. The worst thing about him though is he has priced himself out of boxing and is sitting dormant and at his age, that could be a very bad thing..

The weirdest thing is, I can't figure out why Winky wouldn't be able to beat Kessler. Kessler is a straight up 1-2 fighter, which is 100% made for the Wright guard. The looping and hooking shots are the ones that usually make contact with Winky's face/body, not straight jabs and straight rights. However, my gut says that Kessler would beat him. Jermain Taylor style? Hopefully he does better than Jermain did though if he gets the decision. I really didn't think Taylor split his guard that many times to deserve the decision, but I think Kessler is a harder puncher than Taylor... so that could be the key. I felt Winky won that fight. But like you said, Kessler is a harder puncher, same height as Taylor and he is the natural bigger guy.

He's a fighter who either has to hit you with a loaded up shot (that a good fighter should see coming) or has to intimidate you so you run all night (which a good fighter should not do). I guess what I'm saying is that the power puncher like Miranda is going to have a hard time with elites, because he is going to have to take his opponent out of his game plan. I just watched the Green fight. It was fucking dreadful. I like Allan Green, and I know he had more of his colon taken out than most gay dude's do in their entire lives, but... he should have done more to win the fight IMO. Green's jab looked lazy as fuck that night by the way. Kessler's jab is a lot better than Green's. Actually Green started out with a good jab, but Miranda started buzzing him with a right hand over it. Green then got tentative with the jab which made his situation even worse. Miranda is raw as hell, but with his very long reach and deceptive speed, he is very dangerous to anyone who tries to box him. Pavlik knew that going in and instead of allowing his chin to be at the end of Pantera's punches, he smothered Miranda's power on the inside and pushed him back. That was still dangerous as you have to be a very good infighter to push Miranda around like that, but they took the gamble and it paid off. I love guys like Miranda on the scene. They are not pretty in there, but they are soooo unpredictable and entertaining. Bull in a china cabinet is what comes to mind. very beatable, but can beat anyone on a given night. Just like gatti in his prime.

Speed is not everything. Taylor is basically twice as fast or more than Pavlik, but Pavlik prevailed. With all Joe's speed, he still makes a shit load of mistakes in the ring ready to be capitalized on. Pavlik for all his will and determination, can still be beaten with his considerable defensive holes. etc... Good call...yes thats what makes boxing so exciting I guess...we just have to wait and see what happens. JC has my respect but I still want to see him beaten...Pav maybe if that ever happens...the RJJ fight is a joke. Good chatting bro im off...Peace out, KING KESSLER RULES BIATCHES!!! LOL

I'm a huge Winky fan, just like you. But I really do doubt Winky beats Kessler. and if Kessler fought Winky, then people would call Kessler a pussy for fighting smaller fighters.. But who else is out there?! so I'd rather just not watch the fight happen. The weirdest thing is, I can't figure out why Winky wouldn't be able to beat Kessler. Kessler is a straight up 1-2 fighter, which is 100% made for the Wright guard. The looping and hooking shots are the ones that usually make contact with Winky's face/body, not straight jabs and straight rights. However, my gut says that Kessler would beat him. Jermain Taylor style? Hopefully he does better than Jermain did though if he gets the decision. I really didn't think Taylor split his guard that many times to deserve the decision, but I think Kessler is a harder puncher than Taylor... so that could be the key.

JOES SPEED I BELIEVE MATE...BUT HEY GOOD CALL MAN. JOES SPEED IS JUST BRILLIANT...PEOPLE DONT LIKE JOE BECUASE OF HIS SPEED...THEY WANA SEE PAVLIK LIKE KOS EVERY FIGHT...JOES NOT LIKE THAT BUT I MEAN HE REALLY TORE LACY APART THEY HAVE FORGOTEN ABOUT THAT Speed is not everything. Taylor is basically twice as fast or more than Pavlik, but Pavlik prevailed. With all Joe's speed, he still makes a shit load of mistakes in the ring ready to be capitalized on. Pavlik for all his will and determination, can still be beaten with his considerable defensive holes. etc...

Champion. God I can't wait for Forrest-Mora... how about you? So who is he supposed to fight? That is exactly why I made my 168 thread... Remember, some people are saying Pavlik is the guy to beat Calzaghe. :lol1: Even though I'm a huge Winky fan, I don't know if Winky can beat Kessler. :( I'm a huge Winky fan, just like you. But I really do doubt Winky beats Kessler. and if Kessler fought Winky, then people would call Kessler a pussy for fighting smaller fighters.. But who else is out there?! so I'd rather just not watch the fight happen.

you know how we do Mr. Poster of the year :P Dawson and the 43 year old hopkins would lose to Kessler Champion. God I can't wait for Forrest-Mora... how about you? Hopkins is 43. Winky is 37. Pavlik is a 160 pounder.... nuff said. So who is he supposed to fight? That is exactly why I made my 168 thread... Remember, some people are saying Pavlik is the guy to beat Calzaghe. :lol1: Even though I'm a huge Winky fan, I don't know if Winky can beat Kessler. :(

Every undefeated fighter has had their way with everyone. They can all still lose. Joe is a very good fighter, but beatable. Pavlik is a very good fighter, but beatable..etc.. kessler could have beaten Joe if he was more bloodthirsty. When you have enough will, you can overcome a lot. Kessler let Joe have his way because he did not know how to deal with adversity. JOES SPEED I BELIEVE MATE...BUT HEY GOOD CALL MAN. JOES SPEED IS JUST BRILLIANT...PEOPLE DONT LIKE JOE BECUASE OF HIS SPEED...THEY WANA SEE PAVLIK LIKE KOS EVERY FIGHT...JOES NOT LIKE THAT BUT I MEAN HE REALLY TORE LACY APART THEY HAVE FORGOTEN ABOUT THAT

miranda aint such a bum man hes the next star i can tell u that when he beats abraham to a pulp in america everyone is gonna be impressed He's a fighter who either has to hit you with a loaded up shot (that a good fighter should see coming) or has to intimidate you so you run all night (which a good fighter should not do). I guess what I'm saying is that the power puncher like Miranda is going to have a hard time with elites, because he is going to have to take his opponent out of his game plan. That is a very dangerous way for anyone to fight Miranda. Even though he does not look like it due to being stocky, he is tall with a very long reach. He loves to wing his right hand over a jab. Watch his fight with Green. You will see what I am talking about. I just watched the Green fight. It was fucking dreadful. I like Allan Green, and I know he had more of his colon taken out than most gay dude's do in their entire lives, but... he should have done more to win the fight IMO. Green's jab looked lazy as fuck that night by the way. Kessler's jab is a lot better than Green's.