So what are your thoughts on Joe at 175...

I Think Big Joe Has Marshmellow Hands Plain And Simple, No Power Brittle, not Marshmallow. Watch his earlier fights when he could sit down on punches, he could bang a bit then. His style now protects his hands, but eliminates an awful lot of power

I Think Big Joe Has Marshmellow Hands Plain And Simple, No Power

My only concern with that is it might negate his speed which is the epitome of Calzaghe. His ability to get someone against the ropes and flurry, regardless of how much or little damage is actually being dished out, is enough to get refs to jump in and stop fights. Those quick flurries also help him to win and steal rounds. Even with adding muscle I don't think his punches will be that heavy. Not if he adds the right kind of muscle, adding a little on his biceps and shoulders shouldn't slow him down and should help him.

His power wasn't devastating before, and it'll be even less of a problem for fighters at 175. He didn't sit down on his punches against Bhop and he won't against the likes of Tarver or Dawson. He should go back to 168 where his power is still respectable and fight Pavlik. Not to mention he'd be quicker at 168 too. For a fighter built on speed, he loses his biggest asset by going up in weight.

^ the fight sucked ass. ppl need to stop entertaining bhop and let him retire regardless of what he feels.who's next winky?calz should have fought pavlik.

its hard to tell because he faced hopkins who makes anyone look bad. he may be better once we see him fight there again against a different opponent

can he compete with Tarver, and Dawson? Is the weight to much for him? Is the weight a non issue? should he stay at 68? discuss. Tarver is in consistent and Dawson is too raw. I don't really see any competition for Calzaghe at 175. Calzaghe moved up at the right time.

He had wrist injuries when he fought Lacy, he hasn't had much trouble with his hands or wrists lately from what I know. If he intends to stay at 175, I really think he should put on some muscle on his upper body. My only concern with that is it might negate his speed which is the epitome of Calzaghe. His ability to get someone against the ropes and flurry, regardless of how much or little damage is actually being dished out, is enough to get refs to jump in and stop fights. Those quick flurries also help him to win and steal rounds. Even with adding muscle I don't think his punches will be that heavy.

Calzaghe has slowed some and doesn't punch hard enough to keep a hard punching Light Heavyweight with stamina off him. He outpointed an old Hopkins who relied on grabbing and puching between rest breaks. If Chad Dawson learned even a little defense he'd easilly beat the 36 year old version of Calzaghe.

I wouldn't worry about putting on muscle, as long as the muscle he does have is toned I don't think adding more will really help that much. Besides, what's cool is seeing a skinny white kid who looks nothing like a boxer winning fights against big muscled dudes who you'd swear would flatten him in 20 seconds, going on looks alone. The fact that big guys like Lacy, Kessler, Hopkins, etc got slapped about by a kid who trains in an old shed just adds to the magic! 100% free webcam site! | Awesome chicks and it is absolutely free! | Watch free live sex cam - easy as 1-2-3

Yep, you can knock him over, but it seems his head clears alot quicker than other fighters. Regarding the power, didn't Frank Warren come out with something about a wrist injury to add into the brittle hands issue. Although I don't think his chin will be an issue, he may find himself being pushed around by naturally bigger guys, but we need to see a fight against another fighter to properly gauge his performance. Weight wise, he came in a couple of pounds lighter than the limit, so he may well put a little more muscle on next time, who knows?? He had wrist injuries when he fought Lacy, he hasn't had much trouble with his hands or wrists lately from what I know. If he intends to stay at 175, I really think he should put on some muscle on his upper body.

Yep, you can knock him over, but it seems his head clears alot quicker than other fighters. Regarding the power, didn't Frank Warren come out with something about a wrist injury to add into the brittle hands issue. Although I don't think his chin will be an issue, he may find himself being pushed around by naturally bigger guys, but we need to see a fight against another fighter to properly gauge his performance. Weight wise, he came in a couple of pounds lighter than the limit, so he may well put a little more muscle on next time, who knows?? yeah, i think he needs to add a little muscle as the fighters at 75 are going to be stronger/more pysical with him.

He was hurt against Mitchell, recovered very well and came back but he was definitely hurt by that right hand. Yep, you can knock him over, but it seems his head clears alot quicker than other fighters. Regarding the power, didn't Frank Warren come out with something about a wrist injury to add into the brittle hands issue. Although I don't think his chin will be an issue, he may find himself being pushed around by naturally bigger guys, but we need to see a fight against another fighter to properly gauge his performance. Weight wise, he came in a couple of pounds lighter than the limit, so he may well put a little more muscle on next time, who knows??

calzaghe may need a bit more time tor really grow into a LHW, after years of boling himslef down to 168 its possible that he has taken some muscle off as well. he keeps his speed and workrate though which is by far the two most important assests that joe has. in fact with them alone he is a real contender to the LHW belts. throw into the mix his ring generalship, adaptability and chin you end up with someone who should in the next few fights be the undisputed LHW champ. as for his chin i still have no doubts about it - joes been knocked down twice once vs mitchelll and once vs old hopkins. the mitchell knockdown was a really good punch but it was more a case of it being right on the tmple and he caught calzaghe off balance - joe was coming into the punch. besides joe ame back to KO mitchell in the same round!!!! so it couldn't have affected him too much. as for the hopkins KD i agree with one of the posters above - im not going to read into it too much. hopkins caught him with a good punch as joe was coming in but joe didn't go down straight away, his legs were still strong and his eyes didn't seems fazed - in fact you coul argue that hopkins pactually pushed him down. both KD's were in my opinion a case of joe being caught off balance. He was hurt against Mitchell, recovered very well and came back but he was definitely hurt by that right hand.

fighting Hopkins didn't show us much other than Joe's world class adaptability, workrate and stamina they were not affected. Punching power is hard to decipher he didn't land much clean on a guy who exists soley to make you look foolish.

calzaghe may need a bit more time tor really grow into a LHW, after years of boling himslef down to 168 its possible that he has taken some muscle off as well. he keeps his speed and workrate though which is by far the two most important assests that joe has. in fact with them alone he is a real contender to the LHW belts. throw into the mix his ring generalship, adaptability and chin you end up with someone who should in the next few fights be the undisputed LHW champ. as for his chin i still have no doubts about it - joes been knocked down twice once vs mitchelll and once vs old hopkins. the mitchell knockdown was a really good punch but it was more a case of it being right on the tmple and he caught calzaghe off balance - joe was coming into the punch. besides joe ame back to KO mitchell in the same round!!!! so it couldn't have affected him too much. as for the hopkins KD i agree with one of the posters above - im not going to read into it too much. hopkins caught him with a good punch as joe was coming in but joe didn't go down straight away, his legs were still strong and his eyes didn't seems fazed - in fact you coul argue that hopkins pactually pushed him down. both KD's were in my opinion a case of joe being caught off balance. ________ Volcano Vaporizer Review

Calzaghe looked a bit thick upper body wise, it made his prizefighter character look more realistic. It wasn't much muscle definition though.

Hard to say because nobody looks good against Hopkins but if he wants to stay at 175, I think he should put on some muscle on the upper part of his body. I think Calzaghe's chin is OK at 175, hard to say about his power, his speed is still very good IMO. i agree with this.

Hard to say because nobody looks good against Hopkins but if he wants to stay at 175, I think he should put on some muscle on the upper part of his body. I think Calzaghe's chin is OK at 175, hard to say about his power, his speed is still very good IMO.

Immediately after the Hopkins fight I felt sure that Joe looked like he was losing handspeed, footspeed and reflexes, and he threw more genuine slaps than I've ever seen from him. I put it down to age, the extra weight or a combination of both. After rewatching though, I'm pretty sure that Calzaghe's decline has been overestimated. In terms of what he did, he didn't look that much different than he did against Kessler, in the later rounds, when he was throwing and moving, he looked fine. Hopkin's timing of counterpunches and the fact that Bernard threw so little for Joe to avoid made his reflexes look bad, the genuine slapping issue and handspeed issues was caused by Bernard just jumping into clinches head first and head down. Joe's punches looked ineffectual because he was forced to cut his punches short and bring them in from the side, and the handspeed looked missing because there was no distance for Joe to punch across to demonstrate it. He doesn't have the power he used to, but it's been like that for a long time. No doubt, Joe is not immune to aging, and if he wants to make his mark at LHW he needs to get busy. Against Tarver and Dawson in particular I think we'd see a much better Joe Calzaghe, the boxer/ volume puncher we saw against Lacy and Kessler. I don't believe either of these guys are as good as Joe or Kessler, and I think that Joe would really show America what he is all about if he fought them. The RJJ fight I am nowhere near as certain about. Roy is a match for Joe in the athleticism department even now, and his big losses have all been KOs. If Calzaghe were not on top of his game, and the fight turned into a boxing match, it is possible that Joe could be outpointed. The way for Joe to win that fight is to return to the aggressive Joe of old and pressure Jones to the point of swarming. If he did that I think he'd beat Jones all day long, but the question is whether Calzaghe can still throw with the power required to make such an approach effective. So basically I'd say Calzaghe can rule LHW if he wants too, he'll just have to be quick about it and not become complacent. It'll be good seeing what happens. ________ Lexus Lf History