It's not Cotto's style that could beat Floyd, but Cotto's intelligence

Yeah because it really helped Hatton when he just relied on agression and quick feet. Corrales really did well when he tried to rely on strength and power. Get the fuck out of here. Those had nothing to do with ring intelligence. Corrales and Hatton just simply didn't have it in them to do anything else. No amount of brain power would have helped them that night. Miguel Cotto is a more patient fighter and methodical with his punches. His accuracy could win him the fight. His body punching could win him the fight. And yes he showed some other dimensions against Mosley in the late rounds but is he really gonna do that against Floyd???? I doubt that.........it's all accuracy. Can he land on Floyd the punches that all others couldn't and perhaps knock him out or win enough or rounds or will it be just another Floyd victory in the bank?

You and DW get the shit owned out of yall and you get defensive. Shit I wasn't even talking about Floyd I was talking about your OWN WORDS. That is what matters to me here. why are you and the other cumbucket the ONLY ones not to understand my post? huh? and who the fuck owns me? where? as soon as i son their asses, they're never to be seen again. its gotten to the point were we cant even be hypothetical about anything relating to Floyd. Boxing Fan: - "You know who may be able to give Floyd problems because of their size advantage?" Floyd Stan: - "It doesnt matter because Floyd will beat them so theres no use in talking about it" Boxing Fan: "Wait, this dude has a.." Floyd Stan: - "Did you year me? NO point in discussing because Floyd is better in EVERY category." Boxing Fan: - "They may be true but you never know untill they get in the.." Floyd Stan: - "NO! Are you stupid? YOU DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING. NO ONE CAN BEAT FLOYD IN ANYTHING. IF HE'S LIKE A FIGHTER YOU CREATE IN FIGHT NIGHT WITH ALL THE STRENGTHS MAXED OUT. YOU DONT KNOW SHIT. THERES NO POINT IN DEBATING THIS."

That's the way you have to beat him. Mayweather's whole thing is his timing and awareness of proper distance. You have to play chess with him, more than just going in there and trying to beat him up. And you cant overlook his ability on the inside like Hatton did. ThaT'S THE ONLY point some posters were making, that Cotto's chess game isn't up to par with Floyd's and D-dub and 25 on the wrist are calling people huggers and saying they aren't reading the post when in fact their arguments are based EXACTLY on what he said.

maybe... but i think if they fight its gonna be more of mayweather being stuoid and giving the fight away by being too defensive...god knows cotto would get the nod oscar didnt....and the "Experts"will say it was a clear win for cotto :lol1:..... im not saying cotto can't win using his skills though...both have weapons to win the fight..... I think cotto is the most complete fighter in his prime that mayweather would have faced, I agree it could go either way, but it seems good left hand work is what you need to beat floyd. I just think miguel has all the punches and is one of the few fighters today who actually looks really effective when he changes stance. I think it would be closer than oscar, and it would be nice to see mayweather take some punishment for once which i think he would in a fight with cotto

exactly what the fuck im saying. these so called "boxing fans" dont even care to read the fucking post. they are already programmed with what to post as soon as they see the names "Cotto" and "Floyd" in a thread title. You and DW get the shit owned out of yall and you get defensive. Shit I wasn't even talking about Floyd I was talking about your OWN WORDS. That is what matters to me here.

Agreed. You don't think Castillo's success in the first fight had anything to do with tactics? Did Castillo just come forward at Floyd and do well because of that? Or did he always step in with his jab to get on the inside as much as possible, and cut off the ring so Floyd would be on the ropes frequently? Castillo's ring intelligence set his ass way apart from both Hatton and Jesus Chavez in their performance in the ring when they fought Mayweather. That's the way you have to beat him. Mayweather's whole thing is his timing and awareness of proper distance. You have to play chess with him, more than just going in there and trying to beat him up. And you cant overlook his ability on the inside like Hatton did.

maybe... but i think if they fight its gonna be more of mayweather being stuoid and giving the fight away by being too defensive...god knows cotto would get the nod oscar didnt....and the "Experts"will say it was a clear win for cotto :lol1:..... im not saying cotto can't win using his skills though...both have weapons to win the fight.....

You don't think Castillo's success in the first fight had anything to do with tactics? Did Castillo just come forward at Floyd and do well because of that? Or did he always step in with his jab to get on the inside as much as possible, and cut off the ring so Floyd would be on the ropes frequently? Castillo's ring intelligence set his ass way apart from both Hatton and Jesus Chavez in their performance in the ring when they fought Mayweather. Good post, hatton said castillo laid down the blueprint for him, but castillo fought a much smarter fight in both fights against floyd. Hatton and chavez performances and tactics were almost identical. The more I see cotto fight, the more obvious it is to me that him and mayweather are each others legacy fight. A few years ago I would have said floyd was streets ahead but now I think cotto is his equal. I believe this thread makes sense as cotto's inteligence will help him, but he will need more than that, good thing he has a hell of a lot more than that. I think his jab, inteligence, speed, workrate, and power could help him beat floyd, whether he will or not remains to be seen, but im just like every other boxing fan, this fight is number 1 on my list of fights I would love to see.

Yeah because it really helped Hatton when he just relied on agression and quick feet. Corrales really did well when he tried to rely on strength and power. Get the fuck out of here. Agreed. You don't think Castillo's success in the first fight had anything to do with tactics? Did Castillo just come forward at Floyd and do well because of that? Or did he always step in with his jab to get on the inside as much as possible, and cut off the ring so Floyd would be on the ropes frequently? Castillo's ring intelligence set his ass way apart from both Hatton and Jesus Chavez in their performance in the ring when they fought Mayweather.

Cotto's Ring intelligence will have nothing to do with beating Floyd. If that's all there is to it then Floyd already has this fight won. Yeah because it really helped Hatton when he just relied on agression and quick feet. Corrales really did well when he tried to rely on strength and power. Get the fuck out of here.

Cotto's Ring intelligence will have nothing to do with beating Floyd. If that's all there is to it then Floyd already has this fight won.

Jesus do you guys even read the post? Cotto's ring intelligance will be a huge factor if he does beat Floyd. FACT. Quit your bitching.

Enough with the Floyd fans claiming that Cotto fans are saying Cotto's style will beat Floyd. I've only read this once or twice. Anyone that has followed Cotto will tell you that Cotto is one of the smartest fighters out there and IF there IS a way Cotto can pull out a victory over Floyd, it wont be because of the style he's known for, but for the intelligence he has shown when something isn't working for him. He has displayed his versatility many times in the past when his pressure offense hasnt worked for him. His most recent example was Mosley. Why do those who claim Cotto is too one dimensional to be effective against Floyd never bring up the Mosley fight? If you are a Boxing fan, you will understand the message in this post, if you arent a BOXING fan, you will only see this as a "Cotto will beat Floyd" thread because you wont even read it. OMG, I am not the only one. After the Mosley fight everyone was like, “look at Cotto's boxing skills, look at his speed, wow, PBF is getting Pwned”. What I thought and posted multiple times was: he (and his corner) can make adjustments (and stick to them), that's going to make it interesting. But in all honesty, IF Cotto beats Mayweather, the main reason will be the 10 pounds of muscle and bones that separate them, THEN comes the rest. (Similar to Margarito, except there are more pounds and less of the “rest”) Which is kind of sad, it would be better if Mayweather lost to someone his own size, someone humble possibly, and someone just as good.

If Floyd ever got bit on the cock by a Brown Recluse and you were the ONLY one around, would you suck the venom out? yeah...i think you would. He would suck it even if he wasn't bit. And I think you're right on point, Cotto ring intelligence is one of the main reasons why I think he will beat Mayweather. He changes stategies from fighter to fighter and at fight night you don't know which Cotto you're getting.

Literally, by arguing against you, and if Cotto ends up beating Mayweather, they will have conceded that it was not a fluke. Rather than by agreeing with you, which indicates that Cotto only can win IF he has Mayweather's number, like so many other fighters who were thought to be inferior, who got win after win against a guy who was deemed superior (Barkley over Hearns anyone?), now they have indirectly conceded that Cotto is a better fighter, is a better athlete or has a style that is poison to Floyd Mayweather. None of those can really be labeled as a fluke win either. Always fun to watch people shoot themselves in the foot. objective and insightful as always Dwiezzle.

exactly what the fuck im saying. these so called "boxing fans" dont even care to read the fucking post. they are already programmed with what to post as soon as they see the names "Cotto" and "Floyd" in a thread title. Literally, by arguing against you, and if Cotto ends up beating Mayweather, they will have conceded that it was not a fluke. Rather than by agreeing with you, which indicates that Cotto only can win IF he has Mayweather's number, like so many other fighters who were thought to be inferior, who got win after win against a guy who was deemed superior (Barkley over Hearns anyone?), now they have indirectly conceded that Cotto is a better fighter, is a better athlete or has a style that is poison to Floyd Mayweather. None of those can really be labeled as a fluke win either. Always fun to watch people shoot themselves in the foot.

I AGREE ...COTTO IS TO SMART FOR FLOYD! NO. Cotto could win but Mayweather could just as easily win, Cotto is a great fighter and he is one of the most intelligent fighters i've seen. He knows how to fight to the best of his abilities to pull out the W. Mayweather does the same, he knew ODLH would be too big for him if he tried to go toe to toe so he fought a tactical abeit a boring fight, Hatton was furious with his footwork and put on constant pressure and rousehouse tactics, floyd did the same floyd negates their best assets. Against Baldomir he fought another boring fight but he wasn't KOing Baldomir and he had seen how judah even with his speed lost to Baldo. For me personally I'd have Mayweather a favourite but in all realism its proberbly at 50/50 fight.

It is making me laugh that Floyd fans are getting indignant that 2501 is apparently "dissing" their boy. If you all could learn to take in the meaning of a post, you would realize that 2501 says that Mayweather is completely out of Cotto's league. If Mayweather loses the fight, it is because he didn't execute his game plan effectively, or Miguel Cotto literally had the perfect game plan (which would qualify as ring intelligence), because 2501 is saying that Miguel is not going to win because of his style or physical gifts, he is going to have to come up with something mental to make up for his deficiencies in every other category. Wow, it's really hard to believe how hard some Floyd fans will argue to try to defend their guy. They do it without taking in the meaning of what is being said first. exactly what the fuck im saying. these so called "boxing fans" dont even care to read the fucking post. they are already programmed with what to post as soon as they see the names "Cotto" and "Floyd" in a thread title.

It is making me laugh that Floyd fans are getting indignant that 2501 is apparently "dissing" their boy. If you all could learn to take in the meaning of a post, you would realize that 2501 says that Mayweather is completely out of Cotto's league. If Mayweather loses the fight, it is because he didn't execute his game plan effectively, or Miguel Cotto literally had the perfect game plan (which would qualify as ring intelligence), because 2501 is saying that Miguel is not going to win because of his style or physical gifts, he is going to have to come up with something mental to make up for his deficiencies in every other category. Wow, it's really hard to believe how hard some Floyd fans will argue to try to defend their guy. They do it without taking in the meaning of what is being said first.

Good post, but I'd say it's a combination of both.