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i may not mention it but i wont 4get this cos its too much of a snuff for a great boxer to hav been wrong like this. he clearly did not lose this fight in my eyes and is being penalised for non boxing reasons

Bloody hell Hopkins lost get fukin over it man! lol There will be something else next week and all this will be forgotten about

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agreed now move the fuck on!!!!! This is a boxing forum. Why not talk about NON STOP BOXING?

I thought Hopkins won also. He didn't get the decision. What else can you say man? The fights over an it's in the record books: Calzaghe W SD Hopkins. I don't agree but O'well. agreed now move the fuck on!!!!!

Really reminds you of De La Hoya dont it? I swear the dude can throw a four punch combo and make his fans and announcers go crazy without landing anything.:nonono: Yeah, a De La Hoya example of that would be his fight with Whitaker. Thru 90 punches, crowd went crazy, only thing he landed was the fight date. De La Hoya atleast thru with power, so the danger was there. However, Calzaghe has power, but takes the speed route. Which is cool. Calzalghe can land much more often, though. Hopkins is just very elusive.

The flaw with that logic is that Calzaghe throws a lot of flurries and they don't all do damage, or anything in particular. Some do, and I think he kept it close, so a lot of them did on Saturday, in one way or another. However, fans who are biased (or atleast want a particular fighter to win) will cheer regardless of if the punches land. The Americans, as you said were far outnumbered. Hopkins throws one punch at a time, with some combinations. However, that isn't the combination for rowdy American cheers. Very good point and never really thought about it that way.

The way how to tell Calzaghe won.... the American fans. They only cheered about three times throughout the fight, with only one USA chant throughout the twelve rounds. Admittedly they was surrounded by the Welsh and English but when Hopkins had the advantage they let us know (rightfully so) and they didn't let us know very often The flaw with that logic is that Calzaghe throws a lot of flurries and they don't all do damage, or anything in particular. Some do, and I think he kept it close, so a lot of them did on Saturday, in one way or another. However, fans who are biased (or atleast want a particular fighter to win) will cheer regardless of if the punches land. The Americans, as you said were far outnumbered. Hopkins throws one punch at a time, with some combinations. However, that isn't the combination for rowdy American cheers.

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but all the fans booed hopkins not just the british or did the americans just not cheer? I only noticed one section of his fans, the be honest the booing was soo loud you couldn't notice what they was doing, but they did cheer when he was ahead in the fight in the early rounds

If you go by who did the damage then Hopkins won by a landslide. That's obvious! What obvious damage caused this "landslide"?

Oh, I don't know who I truly think won the fight. It was so close. I picked Calzaghe by SD from the outset, I had Calzaghe/Hopkins so close, that either winner could have gotten away with it for me. I just don't know who won the fight. I like both fighters, so I can't complain there. I enjoyed the fight for what it was worth. But, Hopkins could make a case, in my mind, if he chose to. I just couldn't agrue either way about it. Fair enough.

but all the fans booed hopkins not just the british or did the americans just not cheer?

The way how to tell Calzaghe won.... the American fans. They only cheered about three times throughout the fight, with only one USA chant throughout the twelve rounds. Admittedly they was surrounded by the Welsh and English but when Hopkins had the advantage they let us know (rightfully so) and they didn't let us know very often

explain to me why he is a cash cow to HBO? the few fights he has had on HBO have been lowly rated including his matchup with Kessler which if I am not mistaken was the lowest rated WCB of 2007 Joe didnt bring the masses like the way Hatton did at best maybe 5000 fans. This was his first major fight in the US and they didnt come. They had to paper most of the arena, they gave away tons of tickets through radio stations (one radio station had 12 of the $1500 seats to give away), and GGP had to give back about 2 million of their site fee for the poor showing. Hopkins, while waning in the public interest, still drew enough for his last PPV (Winky at 400K) to say he is more known in the US than Calzaghe. He also has history with Jones having met early in their careers and had a proposed rematch on the table (60/40 I tax dat ass!) I don't see the HBO angle at all HBO show fights first on non-ppv to build fighters name recognition to have marketable PPVs. Jermaine Taylor, Mayweather, any fighter they think can be future PPV fighters they will build up. Remember they HBO did JC v Kessler and JC vs. BHOP free. With 50,000 fans showing up to the gate they want another PPV cash cow. PPV is what drives the serious money in boxing. Without boxing stars, they have nothing.

I would concede that they may well have been even in meaningful shots. But Joe still deserves credit for outworking Hopkins the entire fight and even for landing the majority of the less substantial punches. Personally I just can't buy into any rationale that Hopkins deserved the decision. Oh, I don't know who I truly think won the fight. It was so close. I picked Calzaghe by SD from the outset, I had Calzaghe/Hopkins so close, that either winner could have gotten away with it for me. I just don't know who won the fight. I like both fighters, so I can't complain there. I enjoyed the fight for what it was worth. But, Hopkins could make a case, in my mind, if he chose to. I just couldn't agrue either way about it.

If calzaghe hadn't come to fight and didn't come forward there wouldn't have been a fight. Hopkins is a boring cunt and i can't see how anyone can defend him, even you dumb, cheese steak loving, fat yanks. I watch fighters for different reasons. With Hopkins, I don't expect and don't want a war. I want to watch a wiley ol' veteran show me what it looks like to take a younger guy to his mental peak. It's interesting. It's chess. There can always be high speed chess, such as De La Hoya/Mosley one, but it's not always like that. If I want checkers, I want a Marquez/Vazquez fight.