really are pissing me off.... if you are basing the fact that he isnt great on the fight against hopkins then ur an idiot - fair enough, hopkins is past his best - but so is calzaghe, hes 36, his performance done enough imo - he beat him fair & square
joe has beat everyone there is to beat & proved everything he needs to prove
the fight with rjj is not needed imo
joes a legend, a modern day great - as boxing fans you should be able to see that
no, to be an all time great you need more than 2 great wins. Kessler is an extremely talented fighter, but its yet to be seen if he even gon be a truly great fighter. Hopkins is a legend because of his resume/track record. Tha fact this fight aint happen sooner (say wen B-Hop was 36-38) takes a lot away from it. On top of that, zaghe fights like a girl, literally, slapping his opponents to give off tha impression hes actually doin somthin. zaghe aint even phase Bernard at any point in time over tha fight, but it seamed whenever zaghe got hit wit a nice real punch, something hes never been accustomed to throwing, he either fell or stumbled...
Joe beat Hopkins by merely flailing his arms, and being busier. He did not outbox, or hurt Hopkins at any point in the fight. Im not taking the win away from him, but those are the facts.