Calzaghe Vs Pavlik

He looked shit against Hopkins cause he was fighting Hopkins! This fight would not be lik ethe Lacy fight at all, if anything ti would be like the Kessler fight. Joe may be 36, but hes a 'young 36' he doesnt sem his age. Hopkins makes guys look bad by making them miss, and forcing them into an awkward chess match. What Hopkins does not do is slow down a fighters speed or their reflexes. Joe is slowing down. It happens to all fighters. It happened to RJJ just a few years ago. Both guys looked bad Saturday night. Both of them are showing their age. If you step back and take a real look at both of them, you can see it.

If Joe's 37 year old legs hold up, he can win. If they start acting 37 years old, Pavlik will catch him and stop him. I was not overly impressed with Joe Saturday and he appears to be slowing down. I think he should avoid Pavlik. Pavlik has his doubters and many say he is only the Jab and Straight right. I say watch his other fights including the Miranda fight, he can be a brutal and vicious infighter also. It is his legs that make him look sloppy. He has shitty footwork. But if he doesn't have to chase Joe and Joe wants to play on the ropes, well Joe will get beaten up. Pavlik is not Lacy in any way shape of form. Joe would have to become the pure boxer to beat Pavlik and be very mobile as he will not earn Pavlik's respect with his punch power. Pavlik is probably boxing's best finisher. If he hurts you and takes your legs away, your night is gonna be over quickly. He looked shit against Hopkins cause he was fighting Hopkins! This fight would not be lik ethe Lacy fight at all, if anything ti would be like the Kessler fight. Joe may be 36, but hes a 'young 36' he doesnt sem his age.

How many Hopkins fights have you seen? If I got knocked down by the first punch a 43 year old threw at me...I'd retire. Or escape back to Cricket land. Obviously you havent seen many since he did the exact same thing to a tough chinned Tarver, who just had better balance to catch himself.

If Joe's 37 year old legs hold up, he can win. If they start acting 37 years old, Pavlik will catch him and stop him. I was not overly impressed with Joe Saturday and he appears to be slowing down. I think he should avoid Pavlik. Pavlik has his doubters and many say he is only the Jab and Straight right. I say watch his other fights including the Miranda fight, he can be a brutal and vicious infighter also. It is his legs that make him look sloppy. He has shitty footwork. But if he doesn't have to chase Joe and Joe wants to play on the ropes, well Joe will get beaten up. Pavlik is not Lacy in any way shape of form. Joe would have to become the pure boxer to beat Pavlik and be very mobile as he will not earn Pavlik's respect with his punch power. Pavlik is probably boxing's best finisher. If he hurts you and takes your legs away, your night is gonna be over quickly.

I don't want this to happen b/c Joe needs to fight the contenders at LHW or SMW. But he'd have no problems with Pavlik

How many Hopkins fights have you seen? If I got knocked down by the first punch a 43 year old threw at me...I'd retire. Or escape back to Cricket land. Or maybe he could beat the recognised best LHW on the planet instead? I think I'd opt for the third one personally. You're a tard, crawl back into whatever hole you crawled out of and kindly continue to suck Bernards cock, he enjoys a bit of "mano a mano" apparently....

How many Hopkins fights have you seen? If I got knocked down by the first punch a 43 year old threw at me...I'd retire. Or escape back to Cricket land. You would get knocked down the first time Bernard Hopkins hit you in a boxing match though. As would mosty probably as he is an elite fighter...

Hopkins has probably never hit anyone as perfectly as that punch landed How many Hopkins fights have you seen? If I got knocked down by the first punch a 43 year old threw at me...I'd retire. Or escape back to Cricket land.

After seeing last night that Calzaghe is softer than baby shit and has a glass jaw. He would never be able to take Pavlik right hand. :rofl::rofl::rofl: Thats the second silliest thing i've seen in this thread. The first was the notion the Pavlik would win :) Just my opinion though Hopkins didnt hurt him, he caught him off balance with sweet counter punches. Pavlik is a come forwrd fighter (simiar to Kessler imo), styles make fights. Hopkins had a hood style to beat Joe, Pavlik does not.

After seeing last night that Calzaghe is softer than baby shit and has a glass jaw. He would never be able to take Pavlik right hand. Calzaghe has one of the best chins in boxing, the knockdown came from one the best punches I have ever seen. Hopkins threw all his weight behind it, and punched as hard as he possibly could, catching Joe on the button while he steamed forward. Hopkins has probably never hit anyone as perfectly as that punch landed, and Calzaghe was still up before the ref counted past 3..... Calzaghe didn't show me anything last night that would make me think he'd handle Pavlik easy. Pavlik would be hunting him down Joe all night. Now I don't think Joe has a glass jaw, but he seemed to be effected a few times when BHop landed flush shots (mainly the knockdown & towards the end of the fight). Pavlik's punches would be twice as hard and right on point. Pavlik by stoppage or UD A few things you say here make me realise you haven't watched many of Joe's fights. When people come forward on to Joe, he rips them up, and badly. Hopkins fought a perfect fight, and gave himself the best chance of beating Joe than he could have ever got, but he still lost. Joe LOOKED awful last night, but if you appreciate what he has just done, you will soon realise that Pavlik would be lucky to get to the second half of the fight. It would be Calzaghe - Lacy II, the only difference being Pavlik hasn't got half the chin Lacy had and gets stopped.

Calzaghe didn't show me anything last night that would make me think he'd handle Pavlik easy. Pavlik would be hunting him down Joe all night. Now I don't think Joe has a glass jaw, but he seemed to be effected a few times when BHop landed flush shots (mainly the knockdown & towards the end of the fight). Pavlik's punches would be twice as hard and right on point. Pavlik by stoppage or UD

I think Joe might even stop Pavlik. :pat: :pat:

I would pick Joe, but it would be a really dangerous fight, Pavlik has more power than anyone Joe has fought IMO. Is also very tall. I think Joe would be able to win an easy decision, but at the same time during any time of the fight Pavlik has enough energy to end it. Spot the Legend!!! Think I see a very famous fighter in the crowd in that Calzaghw/Hopkins GIF.

Joe would win, pretty easily but Pavlik could deck him at any moment. Calzaghe has a Great chin and Warriors heart. Pavlik has a good chin and Warriors heart. Calzaghe thrives on fighters that come forward, he would push Pavlik back something he isn't used too. Calzaghe wide UD, Kessler is a harder fight than Pavlik.

After seeing last night that Calzaghe is softer than baby shit and has a glass jaw. He would never be able to take Pavlik right hand.

I think Joe might even stop Pavlik. what would make you think that??

i dont see pavlik gettin kayoed unless he cannot physically get up

it would be foolish for joe to fight kelly. joe would be one punch away from a devistating k o.

If i was Joe id fight Pavlik, Undefeated champ with good KO percentage and popularity - and most importantly very beatable! Joe gets a big win here, Pavlik is half the fighter Kessler was

Calzaghe by decision. He does his best work with an opponent that likes to come forward, Pavlik would always be dangerous because of his power though.