has not been fighting here till now. He would make more money than just about anyone, and be popular as hell. it is also ashame that most americans have not seen just how good the guy is, and how much he can bring to the sport. i think imho that Joe is much more special than he is given credit for. If he was american he would be one of the most famous boxers ever. It also sucks that he and Bhop are nearing the end, and we will not have them to watch and enjoy for much longer. They are both super special for this game that we all love, and it sucks they are near the end. It was a great run, and thanks to boxing, and them both for all they are, and have done. Can't wait for sat!:beerchug:
He did not need to go to America to earn big money and to be successful.
He has been a World Champion for well over a decade and he is the undefeated Undisputed Super-Middleweight Champion of the World.
It would have been nice for Calzaghe to beat some guys like Hopkins, but there was no need.
clown.
please dont try to convince anybody you have been watching boxing since Lewis was around..... i bet the first time you showed an interest in boxing was when you saw a replay of Calfaggy-Lacy in November 2007 and fell in love with your idol on first sight.
your whole fakeass boxrec scholar act has NEWBIE written all over it in bright pink magic marker.
ur posts try to come across like the posts of a thoughtful intelligent longterm fight historian...... but the posters who see through you will expose ur messages as the padded uninformative Calfaggy love-letters they really are..... no insight into how the fight on April 19 will be fought and won........ just clueless public displays of affection for your IDOL Hoe Calfaggy, dressed up in white collar grammar to make them look more worthwhile than they really are.
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APRIL 19 = EXECUTION DAY
Says the guy with 15 posts...Who only joined this month....And only has 4 posts that are not about Hopkins-Calzaghe or more accuratly Calzaghe hate.
And an apparent obsession with FRKO.....
ALTs are crazy..
That means nothing since Hopkins is 43 years old. If that would count Marciano would be rated top 10 for beating Joe Louis. :S If Calzaghe could beat someone good like Pavlik i'll give it to him.
B-Hops vs Pavlik who wins?
I agree where you are coming from but I think B-Hops would win that and style wise B-Hops is a far more difficult fight for Joe. More often than not he looks like crap against fighters that he has to take the fight to.
If ever a guy was made for Joe it is Pavlik.
Calzaghe is special.. will he beat a legend Sat night? who knows.. regardless he is special..his a really good fighter..:cop:
That means nothing since Hopkins is 43 years old. If that would count Marciano would be rated top 10 for beating Joe Louis. :S If Calzaghe could beat someone good like Pavlik i'll give it to him.
Ive always liked Calzaghe, always seemed like a nice guy, I really have no idea why he isnt more well known, hes not even that big in Britain.
Ive heard he was really cocky in his earlier years tho. And Ive heard its Frank Warren's fault he wasnt more well known, so maybe its that.
...Wank Warren is the worst. cant stand that guy. I blame him.
You don't know why he isn't well known? Really? What a mystery... THE GUY HAS NEVER LEFT HIS COUNTRY OR FOUGHT ANY OF THE BIG NAMES! Mystery solved. This isn't rocket science... He wouldn't even travel to Denmark to help Kessler promote that fight? Everyone blames everything on Warren, but it's clear that Joe is perfectly happy being the Big Fish in the small pond.
Yeah Haye could make LHW....
:puppy_dog
You don't know shit about boxing. Ehy didn't Bernard face Wladimir Klitschko at CW? haha
nah. pac vs wlad at 168
I thought Bernard and Joe were fighting in the Light Heavyweight cat. Haye can make that. He would be a bit drained yes oh well nevermind Haye then but someone half decent. Am i the only one disgusted at Joe for fighting a 43 year old who looked awful in his last fight, has no power or speed?! Who the fuck will buy this fight?! It has been announced to be a walk in the park for Joe. And this is probably his last fight! Damn... Talk about Mayweather fighting Oscar again, please!!
Yeah Haye could make LHW....
:puppy_dog
You don't know shit about boxing. Ehy didn't Bernard face Wladimir Klitschko at CW? haha
Majority of joes fights came in the years where boxing was in the toilet in britain. hardly shown on the box etc.
Once it picked up again he started getting more fans.
a no name bad ass like joe would have never got a shot at hopkins or roy back in the day.
i watched the sheika fight the other day.. cracking rumble.
yeah that was sick.
Joe has been benefitting from the revival of boxing. Which started when Audrey the A-Farce Scaredyson won the gold in sydney.
Majority of joes fights came in the years where boxing was in the toilet in britain. hardly shown on the box etc.
Once it picked up again he started getting more fans.
a no name bad ass like joe would have never got a shot at hopkins or roy back in the day.
i watched the sheika fight the other day.. cracking rumble.
I'll advice you to contact your school and get your money back. They are wasted.
Mexicans come from Canada. You know the part of Brazil with the bad weather.
I really have to brush up on my studies
i thought the mexicans came from spain??
I'll advice you to contact your school and get your money back. They are wasted.
Mexicans come from Canada. You know the part of Brazil with the bad weather.
Great original post, demonstrating some people around the world, particularly in the US, are aware of Joe, his ability, legacy, achievements, and why they've not gotten him more known. I think most people, even he, thinks it's a shame. There's various reasons for it.
* He beat Eubank at a time Eubank was for once getting sympathy and love from the fans, so people kinda lost interest when Joe took over, not a leap into fame many receive beating a legend.
* He wasn't allowed into the olympics for stupid political reasons, he knocked the guy out, whom went on to get a medal. Audley and Khan show winning medals at the olympics get you well know, and Joe missed out here. However he cites it for shaping his mindsight and long reign.
* He's defeated all his opponents before they had the chance to get themselves a name. Beating Joe was what would have gotten Reid and the likes bigger names. But Joe beat them all, and with it, they're names and any reputation as a good fighter. Many were better than is made out, but Joe beat them, and beat down they're careers, so seemingly appear as no namers to some.
* He didn't get many bigger fights in the US because of various reasons, all of them unfortunate. Joe has shown he wanted to fight yanks and in the US. Bernard backed out in 02, for me that would have been career defining for either one. Joe had to back out of fighting Johnson due to hand injuries that have disrupted him a few times. Roy JJ didn't want anything of Joe despite Joe being willing. Any one of these 3 alone would have gotten Joe a much bigger name in the US and world. Few are the fault of Joe.
* Frank Warren - helped Joe pay the bills when he needed to, and get some consistency going. However he hasn't particularly helped pull off big fights, the more I watch and learn of him the more I dis trust the guy. He's very shrewd and doesn't let the fights make the own choices enough. It's a pattern I don't like promoters taking up.
* Joe is way more introverted then many boxers, British alone. Hatton draws loads of people for supporting Man City football club, talking more, bantering, cracking jokes, showing more of himself, and building up the hype. Joe's never really been the one to do this so much, which I think aids his boxing, and legacy in many ways. Shame he isn't respected and renowned for it, we need more chilled respectful guys in boxing.
* He's Welsh, not English. Pains me to say this as I'm half of both, but I think it is a factor. Look at Tennis, Englishmen Tim Henman got so much attention especially at Wimbledon. Andy Murray a scot, is consistently demonstrating capabilities and potential above Tim, has beaten the long reigning no. 1, when many have struggled, yet receives much less media attention and recognition.
This is just some of the factors I can think of, but there's many more.
I thought Bernard and Joe were fighting in the Light Heavyweight cat. Haye can make that. He would be a bit drained yes oh well nevermind Haye then but someone half decent. Am i the only one disgusted at Joe for fighting a 43 year old who looked awful in his last fight, has no power or speed?! Who the fuck will buy this fight?! It has been announced to be a walk in the park for Joe. And this is probably his last fight! Damn... Talk about Mayweather fighting Oscar again, please!!
Do you honestly think fighting Bernard Hopkins at 43 years of age qualifies as a big fight? Or maybe Mikkel Kessler who seems to have come out of nowhere to be known as the guy who beats everyone cept for Calzaghe and oh, Miranda apparently.
Until you people stop paying ppv's featuring fighters protected the the whole of their careers, boxing will continue to decay.
Could a fight between David Haye and Joe C please you as much? Haye is the best thing out of Europe since Lewis and Hatton and yes, we all see what would happen. Destruction. But it's funny, the media and the general noise not even once talked of this fight. Maybe Haye is not 40 yet. I'm sure a snake is lurking on Haye, building a pretty shinny record out of med opposition to challenge Haye when he's not ready, but the snake is.
ARe you stupid?
Haye i a natural HW, and the CW limit (where he has to drain the shit out of him) is 32pounds above the SMW-limit. WHy not ask Manny PAcquiao to fight Kelly Pavik or Chad Dawson. What a stupid comment.
Europe is bigger than America 'nuff said
Have you seen any Germany judging recently? It's like they are fighting for the mobsters or something. Worse than japan in k1.
ARe you stupid?
Haye i a natural HW, and the CW limit (where he has to drain the shit out of him) ist 32pouns above the SMW-limit. WHy not ask Manny PAcquiao to fight Kelly Pavik or Chad Dawson. What a stupid comment.