When was the last time you saw a streetfight or have been IN a streetfight where.....

i grew up in houston, mexico and south texas. there are never shortages of jackasses and dudes who want to "check your heart". :boxing: South Texas in the house

i agree, but i keep hearing how MMA is better for a streetfight than just any type of specialized art when in my experience, there really hasnt been much use for it. what aspect of MMA will serve me when im about to get pounded by 3 dudes? (no homo) I remember when Nick Diaz said he saw Mayweather in the mall and said he was tempted to beat his ass. All the MMA fanboys actually believed that he would easily put Mayweather in a submission. I was like so Mayweathers body guards and freinds will just stand there and let him. Sure an MMA fighter might win the battle by putting a boxer in a submission but they would lose the war when the boxers homies stomp them when they are laying there.

90% of streetfights are not one on one. The NUMBER ONE most important thing in a streetfight: make sure you have friends that have your back and aren't a bunch of pussies. Other than that, you wanna catch one guy clean, flush in the face. Catch the next guy, move on. Don't linger on one dude after you catch him in the face. They'll be stunned and hurt. You can't go into tunnel vision after you get the first guy, your heads gotta be on a swivel. Amen brother. If you roll with a group and they don't catch your back and you get a beat down. Rest assured you better pay it forward and get new friends.

I know what you mean (especially the forehead) but you do have to be a 'special' kind of person (someone with a hard head and who has fought many times before) to keep fighting after being stomped/hit with a bat. No normal person would continue fighting after something like that. And if someone strong swings a bat right on your head, you are going down hard. If it's not a full powered swing and there are no 'follow-up' shots, you could still be able to continue fighting. i wouldn't really call what i did after getting hit "fighting". i was out of it. i was just swinging and grabbing. i was dizzy and had a hard time getting up afterwards. i think people misunderstood what i meant by not getting knocked out. i was dizzy. i hit the ground. i wasn't asleep though. obviously i went down almost everytime i got hit but i was stating that i did not receive any real damage aside from a swollen head. the human body is a very weird thing and there's a lot of factors that go into things. maybe my hair cushioned the blow or the fact that i had a beanie on. you never know. sometimes different people react differently to different things. i had a friend who got shot 6 times with a .357 magnum right in the chest at point blank range about 10 years ago and live. he was 14 yrs. old and weighed about 130 lbs. and he survived. while my best friend last month got shot once in the shoulder and we were told it was just a flesh wound and he was gonna make it but he didn't survive the surgery. sometimes the body just reacts different.

the head is one of the hardest parts of the human body. fact. I know what you mean (especially the forehead) but you do have to be a 'special' kind of person (someone with a lot of fighting experience) to keep fighting after being stomped/hit with a bat. No normal person would continue fighting after something like that. And if someone strong swings a bat right on your head, you are going down hard. If it's not a full powered swing and there are no 'follow-up' shots, you could still be able to continue fighting. This guy for example takes a vicious beating (0:55, 3:40) but still stands at the end of the fight.

im 14 and ive been in about 6 or 7 proper punchups (1 0r 2 ended up on the ground) and a few one or two punch scuffles or times when ive just hit someone and they havent hit me back. i'd say most fights end up on your feet, being broken up by mates or passers by, thats my experience anyway it's because you're still a kid. if it happens in school the teachers will break it up and in the streets when an adult sees 2 kids fighting they'll break it up. when it's 2 adults fighting people don't want to get involved unless they know you and even then it's generally to help you , if they're your friends , or the other guy , it it's one of his.

This is the post with the most bullshit I've ever seen. The head is very hard? What fucking weakling couldn't knock you out with a baseball bat? What are you, Terminator? i guarantee you it is not bullshit. why would i make it up? to look cool on a forum with people i will never know in my life? it's from my personal experience. i've been beat up with a bat twice in my life. both times i did not get knocked out. maybe they couldn't hit me solid. maybe they were scared to kill me and didn't swing the bat as hard as they could but it's the truth. first time it happened i was dizzy and i fell to the ground but afterwards i was fine and didn't even go to the hospital. trust me it was an aluminum bat. you can hear it land on your head even if you can't feel it because of the adrenaline. the second time i got hit with a bat i did go to the hospital but that was because i was bleeding from getting stabbed. i was dizzy but i was never knocked out. i still made it back to my friend's car and even helped my friends who was also injured get into the car. i got stabbed 40 times getting hit with a bat on the head was the least of my doctor's worries. the head is one of the hardest parts of the human body. fact.

no. when they are on the ground unless they're dumbshits they cover up. stomping on someones head might look good and sometimes does a lot of damage but the top of the head is one of the hardest parts of the body. i have been hit with baseball bats (aluminum and wood) , car clubs and one time even with a crowbar on top of the head not once have i been knocked out or seriously injured not even a concussion. the head is very hard. it looks spectacular stomping on someone's head but it doesn't do much damage unless if you have steel toe boots or something. they might stop fighting , get bumps on their head and get dizzy but rarely do they suffer serious damage. all the fights i have been in , i've only ended it standing up a few times. i wasn't blessed with one punch power and no matter how much i hit the heavy bag at home or get taught or read boxing books or watch boxing instructional videos i can't do much about it. the technique helped me but it didn't do much in increasing my punching power. i hit hard enough to knock people down but rarely do i knock them out and those were just the few cases when i caught them flush in the chin or one time i got some guy straight in the temple. it's hard to catch someone flush when they're fighting with their head down or moving wildly or grabbing you which is pretty much the majority of the time. it's not boxing in the streets 3 knockdowns don't mean automatic victory. to win you have to beat them bad enough for them not to be able to stand anymore let alone fight back. i usually can only do that once they're on the ground where their movement and defense is limited. This is the post with the most bullshit I've ever seen. The head is very hard? What fucking weakling couldn't knock you out with a baseball bat? What are you, Terminator?

People who join in a fight that has nothing to do with them deserve a good hidin'.

90% of streetfights are not one on one. The NUMBER ONE most important thing in a streetfight: make sure you have friends that have your back and aren't a bunch of pussies. Other than that, you wanna catch one guy clean, flush in the face. Catch the next guy, move on. Don't linger on one dude after you catch him in the face. They'll be stunned and hurt. You can't go into tunnel vision after you get the first guy, your heads gotta be on a swivel.

The last time it actually went to the ground was in 8th grade before I actually started boxing. After that none of my stree outing ever ended on the ground. did you knock them out? or did they just didn't want none after you clocked them real good?

The fights I've been in have all started with punches being exchanged. To be honest, I haven't had to use much wrestling. I haven't been in a shitload of fights, but from experience, it's been pretty much standing up toe to toe. With that said though, I have seen plenty of fights go to the ground. I've even seen some that have been damn near exclusive to wrestling with not too many punches thrown. Needless to say those were boring as fuck.

you can choke one and tell the others that you will ( and are very capable of snapping his neck, choking him to death etc. ) kill him if they dont back off. a boxer would get killed against 3,4,5 dudes if eeven just ONE of them was a wrestler or a grappler.... what are you gonna do, score points against guys trying to jump you? i've choked someone out 'til he past out twice in a fight. both times were rear naked chokes i learned after watching the 1st ufc and deciding to buy renzo gracie's jiu-jitsu instructional video. (i live in the san fernando valley of los angeles and machado jiu-jitsu and 10th planet jiu-jitsu wasn't around back then). rear naked is a blood choke and it takes about 10-15 seconds (from my experience) for them to pass out from a blood choke. if you're fighting multiple guys do you honestly think their friends will just stand there and watch you choke their friend on the floor for 10-15 seconds without doing someting? keep in mind you are on the floor on top of their friend and wide open to their attacks. if you can do a rear choke standing up i give you props but it is not a good idea to choke someone in the standing position. against multiple guys you try to move and fight to discourage them from coming at you. i'm not bruce lee. i have no misconceptions of fighting 2-3 guys , no matter how inexperienced , and believe i can win. even guys that don't know how to fight knows how to punch and grab. if one guy grabs you and the others start punching or kicking you no sort of training or expertise is gonna help you imo.

I've been in about 20 fights or so, give or take a few. None of them went to the ground, if I knock a guy down, I allow him to recover and proceed to come back at me if that's what he wants. I don't kick a guy when he's down and I damn sure don't mount him. That said, my fighting days are behind me. Letting a guy get up when you have him down is a very bad thing to do in a fight. If it ever comes down to a fight , your goal is to beat him so bad that he can't fight anymore. What if you got lucky the first time you knocked him down and he's actually a better fighter than you? You let him get back up and he knocks you down and doesn't let you back up. You could really get hurt. What if he has a weapon in the car? You just knocked him down and he knows you'll get the better of him. What happens when you let him up and he runs to the car to get his gun or knife or bat or whatever. You're gonna wish you didn't let him back up. Happened to my friend last month. They got into a fight at a club and it got broken up. When my friends got into their car the same guys opened fire on them with a .45 and hit my friend in the back. My friend past away the next morning at the hospital. He was only 26. If the security didn't break the fight up and he beat those guys up pretty bad (they outnumber those guys) those guys in my opinion couldn't have recovered enough in time to shoot them as they were leaving. I've taken my share of beatings and sometimes I've had trouble walking to my car afterwards let alone run to my car and drive it to chase people down.

There must be a better place to discuss personal, illegal street fights? I'm pretty shocked at your liberal attitudes, and willingess to get into fights. It's bloody dangerous and people end up seriously hurt. I'm surprised you've only broken someones arm, poss done more and not known, jeez. The bigger man settle's a dispute with his head and words, not his fists, hence the latter being un sociable, and illegal activity. Violence, harming another man or women (often innocent parties get hurt), is the absolute last resort, one which I'm proud to have only resorted to once in my imature days. Most decent law obiding people don't show a lack of restraint to end up in countless fights, take pleasure in hurting people, show a lack of conscience for doing so, and are proud as such. This is a public forum where people generally discuss legal boxing. There's easily influenced kids and all sorts reading this crap whom are reading and taking from your willingness to break the law and hurt people. With respect, surely it'd be better to discuss relentless personal violence somewhere else fellers. I'm sorry if the topic bothers you but most of us here don't live on fantasy island. Not one member made any comments on how cool it was to go out and beat the shit out of someone for fun. I grew up in the ghetto and if you didn't fight back then the beatings just got worse. Hell in my house you got two beatings if you lost a fight. Don't preach if you haven't lived through it!

Boxing will be better in a 1 vs. multiple opponent fight. Hands down no question, way back when I was 16-17 (been awhile) I got jumped by 4 Dominicans in Brooklyn. I thought it was going to be a 1 on 1 and after I hit the guy his buddies jumped in. From what I remember I did alot of side stepping and throwing jabs wondering when the hell someone was going to break it up. I carried an asswhoopin that day but I was happy that I didn't get jacked up real bad. Knowing how to box saved my ass big time. Since then I've learned to wrestle a little and some jiu jitsu out of curiosity and I do have to admit its nice to know what it feels like to be in that type of situation. Knowing how to prevent the mount and to reverse the guard position is handy knowledge if ever in needed.

Also, how is grappling, BJJ, all the other ground styles going to help you in a brawl or against 2 or more people? The last fight i was in was against 6 drunken mexicans outside of a club after they jumped a friend and punched his girlfriend. I was the only one there out of our circle of friends cuz everyone had already left. Needless to say, i got my ass handed to me and I even had a bootprint on my back. How was BJJ or grappling going to help me there? the thing about street fights is that they are unpredictable and not under controlled circumstances. Ask yourself, where do most of the fights occur? If you're at a bar and you get into a fight, theres a 90% chance you're gonna fight more than one person. If you are a party, you get into a fight, theres a 90% chance you're gonna fight more than one person. if you live in the hood and you're gonna fight, you damn well can expect to be fighting more than one person. People are weak, scared and unsure of themself. Which is why they act tough around friends. People who are looking for trouble are always backed up by someone else. Any training in any martial art is better than nothing. If you are a human being, you will get fucked when you are surrounded by cowards. But knowledge of ground fighting will make you calmer and clearer in your head so you will protect yourself better. It can save your life, so I think the undertone of this thread is somewhat stupid, no offense.

I'm 22, from the west side of St. Louis, Mo (recently "awarded" with #1 in all homicides...:nonono: ) In Almost every fight I have ever had, I was either jumped or "rushed" into the ground! I'm a man with pride that doesn't need a brick, gun, or knife; IF IT'S FAIR & I lose, I'll take my @$$ whipping like a man...but with the "wets"/"dips" (embalming fluid/PCP - - (The analgesic properties of the drug can cause users to feel less pain, and persist in violent or injurious acts as a result)) that has been ever so popular, you might need some of that stuff! hince the saying; "there is no such thing as a fair fight"

same here. i grew up in dc and went to DCPS in S.E.. i have had about 20 plus fights my WHOLE life.. but not any in recent years. im grown Exactly, I haven't had a fight in like...5 years. Sometimes where you grow up just impacts the amount of shit you find yourself getting into.

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