COTTO Understand The CONSEQUENCES of Calling Out MAYWEATHER, that's why he WONT DO IT

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Facts. Floyd retired without fighting the best in the welterweight division. According to you stans, Floyd has the power to call the shots. So by their logic Floyd being the money man that he is, can make any fight he wants. He even told one man, "you'll get your shot". Here we are on July 10th, 2008 and where is Floyd? Retired without having faced any of the best welters of his day.

The rest for you Psycho and the slob: "Flat turned him down like you can not believe," Arum said of Mayweather when he was offered a chance at the WBO title. "Any time we raised his name, Mayweather went crazy." Could it be that Mayweather will never get in the ring with him? "I don't know, you never say never," said Arum last week in Los Angeles, where he was in town for Klitschko's open workout with the media. "Floyd is a very proud guy. The more people talk about all these guys ducking Margarito, of anybody, Floyd is the one who'll step up and say,'I'll face him'. He's a ballsy guy but his people have told him that Margarito is the most dangerous guy for him out there." The veteran promoter said he was "shocked" that Mayweather would turn down such a payday. But Margarito believes that no matter what the price, Mayweather will avoid him. "It was heard and it was a fact that Bob Arum offered him a lot of money. And this time it wasn't a question about the money. I really believe it's a question of Mayweather being afraid of fighting me. I have a welterweight title, why doesn't he want to fight me? It's not about the money, it's because he's afraid to face me." Margarito also yearns for a shot at Zab Judah, who is the recognized welterweight kingpin. "I don't know why that fight can't be made," he said. "Bob Arum has me, I have a big title. It's a Bob Arum-Don King thing but if I was Zab Judah I would definitely want that fourth title. I don't understand why Zab Judah doesn't want that fight." But it seems that Judah has his eyes on Mayweather, and perhaps vice-versa. But that bout may be an impossibility to negotiate, not only with Arum and King involved, but the two huge egos of Mayweather and Judah. "That's Floyd's number one priority, Zab Judah," Arum said last week. "Will that fight happen? I'm not sanguine about it because of Don King's demands. He's got to realize that the attraction is Floyd Mayweather, that Floyd's been the guy who's been on HBO and Zab has had trouble getting money in fights. So that has to be reflected in any deal." 2005 has been a frustrating one for Margarito. His two bouts of the year were actually promoted by Main Events and the Gomez fight was supposed to catapult him into bigger and better things for 2006. "Our goal is to fight a mega-fight," stated Diaz. "To be up there with the big boys. We're looking for anybody from the Mayweathers, for Judah, for Cotto - any of those fighters." But you get the sense - at least for the time being - that he will be on the outside looking in at the marquee bouts. In many ways, he could be Winky Wright, circa 2001. "The difference between Margarito and Wright is frankly, ethnic," said HBO analyst, Larry Merchant, who like many others had his plans changed for this weekend. "You would think that a fighter as good and as tough and as exciting as Margarito would build up a following that would give him leverage in order to attract opponents. That hasn't happened, yet. "He's still relatively young, so presumably it could happen," he said of the 28-year old grinder. "But right now he's in the position where, 'What's the payoff for fighting him?' For the top challengers, if they're going to fight the toughest guy on the street, they want to make sure they can make the most money." Wright eventually broke through to the next level by downing Shane Mosley twice and then Felix Trinidad. But maybe Margarito will end up as this generation's Mike McCallum, who never got that breakthrough fight. "I just don't know, because the way Latinos and especially Mexican fighters have dominated the sport recently, you would think that a fighter like him would eventually strike a chord and attract a following," said Merchant, who compares the plight of Margarito to another pair of Mexicans who were once promoted by Arum not too long ago. "Some Latino fighters like the Marquez brothers, for example, have never built a large following. But there are extenuating circumstances because one is a bantamweight and one's a featherweight in an age where there have been more famous featherweights. "So I don't know if the Margarito question is resolved yet. My guess is that eventually one of the top welterweights will face him on the feeling that it would become a very attractive fight." But Arum thinks that his situation is similar to a fighter he once promoted from out of obscurity to the big time - Marvin Hagler. "He's too good, he's too good for his own good," he says of Margarito. "I think he's far and away the best welterweight out there." His manager agrees with that, but says, "Y'know what? We just won't take that as an excuse anymore. We have a very good promoter, we have a promoter that has a lot of money and we know our promoter can make these fights. Now, it's something they're not doing for some reason. They're putting their money on other fighters but I think they're losing money by not putting their money on Antonio." Arum says he may do just that to get Margarito the fights he wants in the upcoming year. "That's a real tough thing and I may have to overpay to get guys to fight him," he said. "But I'm not going to let this happen to a guy that people won't fight because he's too good. That's just wrong." Diaz says that Margarito would be receptive to being rescheduled on a Telefutura card to finish out the year, not wanting to have this past training camp go to waste. But as you look ahead to 2006, fights involving Shane Mosley-Fernando Vargas and Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Vargas are being finalized. "Definitely, it worries me," admits Margarito. "Having to wait all this time and finding out these fighters are possibly going to fight - nothing's 100 percent till the contract's signed - but the word is out there that these people are going to fight each other. But I'm definitely worried because I know I'm going to have to wait even longer." Maybe he'll get a fight by the time Klitschko actually steps into the ring. WOW.....Thanks for the Post..!! I never read this before Good Shit

For you and the slob Psycho The Wait Lengthens for Margarito By Steve Kim (November 9, 2005) Photo © German Villasenor -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Warning: to any fighter like WBO welterweight champion Antonio Margarito, who is scheduled to fight on any undercard featuring Vitali Klitschko - make sure you have a contingency plan. When 'Brittle-ly' damaged his right knee late last week, he didn't just hobble himself, but also fighters like Margarito and WBA junior bantamweight titlist Martin Castillo, who were supposed to be featured performers on the televised portion of the pay-per-view undercard. As of now, both standout Mexicans are in limbo. "I don't know, I really don't know," was the answer of a beleaguered Bob Arum, when he was asked by MaxBoxing on Tuesday morning what he had in mind for the duo. "I'm trying, but I can't do everything at the same time. We're trying to do the right thing, find a place for them but you've got to give me time." Arum sounds frazzled as he says this. It's been a stressful time at Top Rank, which put up over $12 million to win the purse bid for Klitschko's title defense of his WBC belt against Hasim Rahman. Arum and his staff had worked tirelessly to promote the event, which was scheduled for the Thomas and Mack Arena in Las Vegas. The WBC has granted Klitschko a 60-day reprieve to once again find a way to drop out of his next scheduled date against Rahman. But now, Arum has to find dates for guys like Margarito, who hasn't fought since late April, when he blew out the previously undefeated Kermit Cintron. He had pitched to have his scheduled bout against Manny Gomez to be added to HBO's telecast of Floyd Mayweather's bout against Sharmba Mitchell on November 19th. That pitch was rejected."They had a movie," explained a perturbed, Arum. "I don't know, I don't understand. I think they're making a big mistake because I think it could've helped that card, but hey, I don't run that network." So now, Margarito is a fighter without a fight. The news of Klitschko's latest ailment hit them hard. "We all got down, especially Antonio, because this was a big event," said his co-manager, Sergio Diaz, on Tuesday. "We know it's a big pay-per-view, it's a good opportunity for us to be on a big event like this. We got the news and it just brought all of us down. Especially Antonio, because he had been training so hard, making the weight, the sparring, the time being away from his house and country. "When we gave him the news it just depressed all of us." At this time last week, Margarito was in camp preparing for Gomez. While it wasn't the fight he wanted, it was still a significant showcase coming off his watershed win over Cintron. "I feel proud of that outcome, people were talking about his punch, people were talking about his undefeated record, the big Puerto Rican, and I showed everybody what I was made of," he said last week, through his manager, in South El Monte. "Unfortunately, the bigger fights didn't come after this. We were looking for Oscar De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather, they didn't come." It's been a frustrating process for Margarito's management and Top Rank in getting a significant name to sign on the dotted line to face the tough native of Tijuana. Diaz believes that their promotional company has been diligent in trying to make the lucrative bouts. "I really do believe them, especially with the money that was offered to Mayweather and Bob came out and spoke about it and the media heard it. So I really think it was something serious and unfortunately Mayweather didn't want to take the fight." Arum and Diaz say that the 'Pretty Boy' was offered in the neighborhood of $7 million to face Margarito. In what could best be described as a 'business move', the same guy who brazenly challenged the bigger Winky Wright decided to bypass Margarito, to collect nearly $4 million to spar with Sharmba Mitchell. Lmao!! This is the same old ass article you posted on the other thread. Quit trying to pass of shit like you've actually done some research. Fact is, Floyd never took on a welterweight threat in 3 years outside of Judah. NOTHING your sorry ass can post is going to change that.

The DLH fight is done and over with. FLoyd is the self proclaimed "mega star". Instead of carrying PPVs on his own name like a real "mega star" does, better known as Oscar De La Hoya, he retires without defending his championship against any of the top 10 contenders at welter weight. Game over. The beatings will continue until moral improves!!

The DLH fight is done and over with. FLoyd is the self proclaimed "mega star". Instead of carrying PPVs on his own name like a real "mega star" does, better known as Oscar De La Hoya, he retires without defending his championship against any of the top 10 contenders at welter weight. Game over. reply to the SPECIFIC post....better yet read it.... Check Mate.!

ONLY DUMB ASS PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVES MAYWEATHER DUCK MARGARITO....AND I REINTEGRATE ONLY "DUMB ASS" PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT MYTH...... MARGARITO OR DE LA HOYA......:thinking: MAYWEATHER VS. MARGARITO SITUATION The announcement of the fight never came, but several other shocking occurrences took place. The first occurrence did not surprise many insiders in the business as Mayweather declined the multi-million dollar offer to fight Margarito. The minute the fight was being talked about as an "almost done deal," numerous boxing experts, scribes, managers and fighters felts the fight would fall apart for one reason or another and it did. The Mayweather camp says that a Margarito fight is still an option, just not on August 12. Apparently Mayweather's right hand, which he injured during the April 8 bout with Zab Judah, is still giving him problems and the general feeling in the camp is Mayweather will not be able to prepare in time for the August 12 date. The second occurrence was something that many in business saw coming a mile away as Mayweather exercised a provision in his contract and paid Top Rank $750K to become a promotional free agent. As Top Rank and several insiders have already stated, Mayweather has made the proper strategic maneuvers to position himself for a potential showdown with Oscar De La Hoya, which could possibly take place as early as September. Of course De La Hoya has to get past Ricardo Mayorga on May 6, and it is far from a guarantee that De La Hoya will win. There are several reasons for the speculation that Mayweather's recent business decisions are due to a potential bout with Oscar De La Hoya. The first, Bob Arum, head of Top Rank, and De La Hoya, have been feuding ever since Oscar left Top Rank to start his own promotional company. The war of words between the two promoters have sometimes been public and often far from complimentary. De La Hoya went as far as to say that he would never make a fight with Mayweather as long as Arum as his promoter. SOUNDS KINDA SIMULAR TO THE FLOYD VS. COTTO SITUATION.....:thinking: With Oscar's announcement of only fighting two more times before sailing into retirement, Mayweather would have had to make a career decision in order to position himself at the head of the Golden Boy sweepstakes. Either call De La Hoya's bluff and move forward with Arum, or dump Arum in order to eliminate the biggest obstacle in making the fight a reality. According to many, Mayweather took no chances and left Arum. If Mayweather went forward with Margarito in August, a September date with De La Hoya would have been a daydream. On the other hand, Mayweather reportedly left on good terms with Arum, meaning that if De La Hoya should lose on May 6, Mayweather still has an open door to easily make a bout with Margarito before the end of the year. Mayweather's recent business decisions make total sense in the long run. Margarito is no hurry to leave the sport, at 28-years-old, the highly respect fighter will be around for several more years. The Golden ship on the hand is set to sail by the end of the year. The bout with De La Hoya, worth millions more than the bout with Margarito is a once in a life time opportunity for Mayweather. If De La Hoya is successful against Mayorga, the road will be wide open for two of the most popular fighters in the sport to come together and stage one of the largest fights in the last couple of years. The storyline alone is enough to sell the fight on pay-per-view. De La Hoya, trained by Mayweather's father, Floyd Sr., fights Mayweather who is trained by his uncle Roger, his father's brother. The family angle, the new generation taking out the old, and everything else in between makes this bout a sure moneymaker. Bob Arum has already announced a backup plan for August 12, a pay-per-view rematch between WBC heavyweight champion Hasim Rahman and mandatory challenger Oleg Maskaev. The DLH fight is done and over with. FLoyd is the self proclaimed "mega star". Instead of carrying PPVs on his own name like a real "mega star" does, better known as Oscar De La Hoya, he retires without defending his championship against any of the top 10 contenders at welter weight. Game over.

There is the problem.... (read this part) Ask Hatton how it feels Ask Hatton how it feels to apologize to his fans and for crushing all their dreams... Ask Hatton how it feels to drink himself into a depression because he could not live up to expectations of his people Ask Hatton how it feels to think about his only lose coming to somebody who constantly told him he was a piece a shit... Ask Hatton how it feels to have your whole resume questioned after you lose to somebody who calls you a "C" Class fighter and people believe that as soon as you lose.... Hmmm ask hatton how it feels blah blah blah... ask hatton how it feels to make 20 million for a fight... id also like to ask you how it feels, Horus, to suck on floyds dick on a daily basis?

Cut it with the excuses. Floyd chose to fight at welter, and avoided the best competition before retiring. No amount of your spinning will change that. Baldomir being a career welter didn't stop Floyd from fighting him. Whether someone is popular or not is irrelevant to the damage they can do in the ring. Nobody outside of hardcore fans knew who Mayweather was 3 years ago either so you don't have much of a point. Gatti have Mayweather his introduction to the mainstream and DLH decided to be kind enough to give him even more exposure. Who in the hell was Manny Pacquiao to be getting a shot at Marco Antonio Barerra? A guy who can fight, same as Margarito. Cats like you don't have enough cells to put things in perspective. Every fighter doesn't have the same road to a championship or glory. Some are coddled since early youth, turned into Olympians and given extra boost as young pros. Others work their way through the ranks without all of the glamour and glitz. Its simple math. Your boy is a bonafied chicken sissy and everyone, even rational Floyd fans know it. But then again, they're more fans of the sport than just one guy. Class dismissed. ONLY DUMB ASS PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVES MAYWEATHER DUCK MARGARITO....AND I REINTEGRATE ONLY "DUMB ASS" PEOPLE ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT MYTH...... MARGARITO OR DE LA HOYA......:thinking: MAYWEATHER VS. MARGARITO SITUATION The announcement of the fight never came, but several other shocking occurrences took place. The first occurrence did not surprise many insiders in the business as Mayweather declined the multi-million dollar offer to fight Margarito. The minute the fight was being talked about as an "almost done deal," numerous boxing experts, scribes, managers and fighters felts the fight would fall apart for one reason or another and it did. The Mayweather camp says that a Margarito fight is still an option, just not on August 12. Apparently Mayweather's right hand, which he injured during the April 8 bout with Zab Judah, is still giving him problems and the general feeling in the camp is Mayweather will not be able to prepare in time for the August 12 date. The second occurrence was something that many in business saw coming a mile away as Mayweather exercised a provision in his contract and paid Top Rank $750K to become a promotional free agent. As Top Rank and several insiders have already stated, Mayweather has made the proper strategic maneuvers to position himself for a potential showdown with Oscar De La Hoya, which could possibly take place as early as September. Of course De La Hoya has to get past Ricardo Mayorga on May 6, and it is far from a guarantee that De La Hoya will win. There are several reasons for the speculation that Mayweather's recent business decisions are due to a potential bout with Oscar De La Hoya. The first, Bob Arum, head of Top Rank, and De La Hoya, have been feuding ever since Oscar left Top Rank to start his own promotional company. The war of words between the two promoters have sometimes been public and often far from complimentary. De La Hoya went as far as to say that he would never make a fight with Mayweather as long as Arum as his promoter. SOUNDS KINDA SIMULAR TO THE FLOYD VS. COTTO SITUATION.....:thinking: With Oscar's announcement of only fighting two more times before sailing into retirement, Mayweather would have had to make a career decision in order to position himself at the head of the Golden Boy sweepstakes. Either call De La Hoya's bluff and move forward with Arum, or dump Arum in order to eliminate the biggest obstacle in making the fight a reality. According to many, Mayweather took no chances and left Arum. If Mayweather went forward with Margarito in August, a September date with De La Hoya would have been a daydream. On the other hand, Mayweather reportedly left on good terms with Arum, meaning that if De La Hoya should lose on May 6, Mayweather still has an open door to easily make a bout with Margarito before the end of the year. Mayweather's recent business decisions make total sense in the long run. Margarito is no hurry to leave the sport, at 28-years-old, the highly respect fighter will be around for several more years. The Golden ship on the hand is set to sail by the end of the year. The bout with De La Hoya, worth millions more than the bout with Margarito is a once in a life time opportunity for Mayweather. If De La Hoya is successful against Mayorga, the road will be wide open for two of the most popular fighters in the sport to come together and stage one of the largest fights in the last couple of years. The storyline alone is enough to sell the fight on pay-per-view. De La Hoya, trained by Mayweather's father, Floyd Sr., fights Mayweather who is trained by his uncle Roger, his father's brother. The family angle, the new generation taking out the old, and everything else in between makes this bout a sure moneymaker. Bob Arum has already announced a backup plan for August 12, a pay-per-view rematch between WBC heavyweight champion Hasim Rahman and mandatory challenger Oleg Maskaev.

Cut it with the excuses. Floyd chose to fight at welter, and avoided the best competition before retiring. No amount of your spinning will change that. Baldomir being a career welter didn't stop Floyd from fighting him. Whether someone is popular or not is irrelevant to the damage they can do in the ring. Nobody outside of hardcore fans knew who Mayweather was 3 years ago either so you don't have much of a point. Gatti have Mayweather his introduction to the mainstream and DLH decided to be kind enough to give him even more exposure. Who in the hell was Manny Pacquiao to be getting a shot at Marco Antonio Barerra? A guy who can fight, same as Margarito. Cats like you don't have enough cells to put things in perspective. Every fighter doesn't have the same road to a championship or glory. Some are coddled since early youth, turned into Olympians and given extra boost as young pros. Others work their way through the ranks without all of the glamour and glitz. Its simple math. Your boy is a bonafied chicken sissy and everyone, even rational Floyd fans know it. But then again, they're more fans of the sport than just one guy. Class dismissed. Don't even bother to try and argue with this retard. This idiot is so full of Floyd's cum that when he sneezes he could get any woman pregnant.

See the Problem is you are trying to confine Floyd to one division, where as Floyd is not a career division fighter like Margarito or Calzaghe for example. Margarito was at Welter Weight For years and what did he do with that time...???? Why is it that, Nobody never even heard of Margarito until Floyd reach the Welter Weight Division. Why Wasn't Margarito Fighting Judah, Baldomir,Mosley, all the other top fighters before Floyd Came.... Margarito is a product of Mayweather,, Period. Maegaeito Only made his name until Floyd came into the division.... GO HERE FOR A FULL ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155550 GO HERE FOR A FULL ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155550 GO HERE FOR A FULL ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155550 GO HERE FOR A FULL ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155550 Cut it with the excuses. Floyd chose to fight at welter, and avoided the best competition before retiring. No amount of your spinning will change that. Baldomir being a career welter didn't stop Floyd from fighting him. Whether someone is popular or not is irrelevant to the damage they can do in the ring. Nobody outside of hardcore fans knew who Mayweather was 3 years ago either so you don't have much of a point. Gatti have Mayweather his introduction to the mainstream and DLH decided to be kind enough to give him even more exposure. Who in the hell was Manny Pacquiao to be getting a shot at Marco Antonio Barerra? A guy who can fight, same as Margarito. Cats like you don't have enough cells to put things in perspective. Every fighter doesn't have the same road to a championship or glory. Some are coddled since early youth, turned into Olympians and given extra boost as young pros. Others work their way through the ranks without all of the glamour and glitz. Its simple math. Your boy is a bonafied chicken sissy and everyone, even rational Floyd fans know it. But then again, they're more fans of the sport than just one guy. Class dismissed.

Floyd is retired, who gives a rat's ass about him. This shows how ignorant PBF fans are. A big fight is just weeks away with the top 2 WWs, and Horus cant stop making threads about Floyd. Wow... can anyone say nuthugger? :greddy2:

What had Floyd ever done at that weight before Baldomir? Beating Baldomir is the only thing at welter that he's done better. But its not saying much because any top 5 welter could do the same thing. Margarito had his belt longer than any other champ in the division, faced more top ten opponents than anyone else in the division, so yes, he "deserved" a shot at a guy who hadn't done jack shit there. See the Problem is you are trying to confine Floyd to one division, where as Floyd is not a career division fighter like Margarito or Calzaghe for example. Margarito was at Welter Weight For years and what did he do with that time...???? Why is it that, Nobody never even heard of Margarito until Floyd reach the Welter Weight Division. Why Wasn't Margarito Fighting Judah, Baldomir,Mosley, all the other top fighters before Floyd Came.... Margarito is a product of Mayweather,, Period. Maegaeito Only made his name until Floyd came into the division.... GO HERE FOR A FULL ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155550 GO HERE FOR A FULL ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155550 GO HERE FOR A FULL ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155550 GO HERE FOR A FULL ARGUMENT ABOUT THIS http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155550

U honestly think Margarito desevered a shot at Floyd... What had Floyd ever done at that weight before Baldomir? Beating Baldomir is the only thing at welter that he's done better. But its not saying much because any top 5 welter could do the same thing. Margarito had his belt longer than any other champ in the division, faced more top ten opponents than anyone else in the division, so yes, he "deserved" a shot at a guy who hadn't done jack shit there.

Floyd also said Margarito would get his shot, but we both know that isn't going to happen any time soon. U honestly think Margarito desevered a shot at Floyd...

What Floyd does has nothing to do with Cotto. WWE, DWTS and such has to do with getting into the public eye. Cotto is 27-28 years old. Trust me this isn't a SRL-Hagler thing where Hagler was out of his prime before the bout came to fruition. It will happen and Floyd has said so HIMSELF. Floyd also said Margarito would get his shot, but we both know that isn't going to happen any time soon.

The Narcissist that is a tight Avi

Interesting drama filled thread. Long read but good.

This guy HAS to be from floyds camp. If he isn't... I actually do feel sorry for him. He is a grown man with an unhealthy obsession about another grown man who he never met and is not aware of his existance. Going through the whole day with floyd on his mind and trying to come up with a new thread ideas.

Whether someone thinks he does, or doesnt isnt the question. Given Floyds actions and words, can u blame those who think he is fearfull of something? People are only commenting on Floyd's reluctance to fight Cotto, due to Floyds own doing. What Floyd does has nothing to do with Cotto. WWE, DWTS and such has to do with getting into the public eye. Cotto is 27-28 years old. Trust me this isn't a SRL-Hagler thing where Hagler was out of his prime before the bout came to fruition. It will happen and Floyd has said so HIMSELF.