Why wont Cotto Just Called Out Floyd....!!!
Why wont he do what Hatton Did...
Cotto doesnt want the fight...!
Period..
Floyd Said Perfectly, Cotto never calls him Out..!
Couldn't bother to read 11 pages.
I think it definitely favors Cotto to keep quiet. He keeps being tight-lipped about it, won't go like Margarito chasing Mayweather and keep being shafted. Instead, I think if Cotto keeps winning, Floyd will want Cotto because it'll DEFINITELY be a big fight (with a 0 in Cotto's resume and even more if Cotto fights in Las Vegas with Marg this summer). In addition, even if Floyd turns a blind eye to the whole affair, he will undoubtedly hear Cotto in every single interview for as long as they both remain undefeated, and I think that'll get under his skin. I just know it.
The Situation as I see it...
It's like when THIS,you got Floyd who has risen to the status of running the whole sport of boxing. He has been knocking out and beating all the previous fighters to challenge him. And Now he runs the sport. He is now been sitting fat, and making WAY TOO MUCH money, and really talking shit to anybody who would listen. He has set his aura of invincibility So High that People now want to see him beat at all cost.
So they search for the perfect Opponent to beat him by judging from the previous opponents he has beaten.
1. Cant be the same size. The fighter must be Bigger (Hatton)
2. Cant be to 3 years older because that's to old. (Oscar)
3. Cant be to slow (Baldomir)
4. Cant be to fast (Judah)
5. Cant have a Slow Work Rate. Cant Let Floyd Dictate Pace (Corralles)
6. Cant have a weak chin ( Ndou)
7. Cant be One Dimensional slugger (Gatti)
8. Cant Over pressure , because Floyd would counter punch all day( Castillo)
9. Cant lack Power ( Chavez)
10. Cant let Floyd stay in the middle of the ring..! (Mitchell)
Finally they come to the conclusion the fighter has
To be a big fighter, around the same age or younger, a power puncher, not to slow, but not to fast, has a high work rate, a strong chin, multi dimensional, balance pressure, and pressure Floyd to the Ropes.. And That will be the fighter that Beats Floyd.
So they look around and the closes thing they got is Cotto... He almost fix all the requirements, and he is undefeated...! HE OURS MAN....:banana:
This is what Cotto Fans Do..
So They call Floyd out for Cotto, everyday, every night, all the time...
But there is one problem... Cotto doesn't seem interested to challenge Floyd... He wont initiate the conflict, He is quite to the idea of Calling Floyd out for the people... and people are saying that he doesn't has to call out Floyd. we the fans will do it for him... :wtf:
There is the problem.... (read this part)
The Fans cant Fight For Cotto, only Cotto can fight for Cotto...
Cotto reluctance to fulfill the people the demands and become the anti Floyd is not being answered...
Simply because Cotto will be the one who has to fight Floyd, Not the Fans...
Cotto will Have to be the one dealing with Floyd's Harassment.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Masterful Defense.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Unmatch Speed.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Sneaky Power.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Infamous Mind Games.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with the Heart Break Puerto Rico will feel if he loses.... Not the fans...
Ask Hatton how it feels
Ask Hatton how it feels to apologize to his fans and for crushing all their dreams...
Ask Hatton how it feels to drink himself into a depression because he could not live up to expectations of his people
Ask Hatton how it feels to think about his only lose coming to somebody who constantly told him he was a piece a shit...
Ask Hatton how it feels to have your whole resume questioned after you lose to somebody who calls you a "C" Class fighter and people believe that as soon as you lose....
Cotto realizes what's at sake(read this part)
Cotto realizes what's at sake, That's why he doesn't called FLoyd out....Because if he calls Floyd Out and loses... All of the burden is on him..
But if the fans called Floyd out for him and he loses..., Some of the burden will go on his fans for putting him in that Position...and demanding Cotto Fight Floyd...even though Cotto has never called him out..
That's why Cotto never calls anybody out because he doesn't want to accept responsibility if he loses...He wants to have the excuse that I fought who they put in front on me, and I lost...!!
So it's Bob Arums can take responsibility to some degree...
and that's pretty smart, because anyway it goes he doesn't completely loses. IF he wins he doesn't lose, and if he loses, it's not completely his fought because he never ask for that fight he just fought who they put in front of him..
So Now I understand why Cotto never calls people out
So Now I understand why Cotto never calls people out, it is because he knows the consequences of doing that.. And he seen How it affects people..
So I expect Cotto to never Called Floyd out, because He knows what would happen if he loses after he calls out Floyd...He understand the instant pressure he would put on himself...and he does not want that..AS WE CAN SEE
Good GAME PLAN Cotto....
You seem like the only fighter who finally figure it out.., and Not call out fighters and put that unnecessary pressure on yourself...
You guys can hate on me and my thread all you want
You guys can hate on me and my thread all you want, but at the end of the day, you can not rule this as one of the reasons why Cotto wont call out floyd. Simply because he never has explain really why doesnt he do what his fans want him to do...
So after the Margarito Fight and Larry ask Now do you want to fight Mayweather....??
And Cotto says, "I fight who they put in front of me..::"
I HOPE YOU THINK OF THIS THREAD...!!! BECAUSE I SURE WILL..!!
Cotto never calls anybody out because he doesn't want to accept responsibility if he loses...He wants to have the excuse that I fought who they put in front on me, and I lost...!!
So it's Bob Arums can take responsibility to some degree...
and that's pretty smart, because anyway it goes he doesn't completely loses. IF he wins he doesn't lose, and if he loses, it's not completely his fought because he never ask for that fight he just fought who they put in front of him..
The second sentence throws your whole argument in the trash.
You wrote: "what have Margarito done to gain a fight with Floyd besides lose to Williams"
Have you forgotten that Margarito called Floyd out PRIOR to his loss to Williams.
So once again. If Margarito went to those great lengths to get a fight with Floyd and didnt succeed, what makes u think that Floyd will swap his panties for a pair of boxers, once Cotto literally says "Floyd i want to fight you"?
Yoo hoo? awaiting an answer?
The second sentence throws your whole argument in the trash.
You wrote: "what have Margarito done to gain a fight with Floyd besides lose to Williams"
Have you forgotten that Margarito called Floyd out PRIOR to his loss to Williams.
So once again. If Margarito went to those great lengths to get a fight with Floyd and didnt succeed, what makes u think that Floyd will swap his panties for a pair of boxers, once Cotto literally says "Floyd i want to fight you"?
Cotto wants to keep padding his record with bums and keep making them 100,000 dollars he's making a fight cuz no one want to see him fight. dude wouldnt even be able to sell out a porn theatre showing a Mary Kate and Ashley sex tape. he dont want Floyd to fuck him up so early in his career and send him back to Puerto Rico or the Dominican Republic. where ever he's from.
Are u saying that Floyd should NOT face/take on his #1 contender because he (Cotto) hasnt called him out the way Margarito did? Answer me 1 question Horus. What did that get Margarito?????????????????
This is what I am Saying:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155550
This Explain the margarito thing..!!!
There is the problem.... (read this part)
The Fans cant Fight For Cotto, only Cotto can fight for Cotto...
Cotto reluctance to fulfill the people the demands and become the anti Floyd is not being answered...
Simply because Cotto will be the one who has to fight Floyd, Not the Fans...
Cotto will Have to be the one dealing with Floyd's Harassment.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Masterful Defense.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Unmatch Speed.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Sneaky Power.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Infamous Mind Games.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with the Heart Break Puerto Rico will feel if he loses.... Not the fans...
Ask Hatton how it feels
Ask Hatton how it feels to apologize to his fans and for crushing all their dreams...
Ask Hatton how it feels to drink himself into a depression because he could not live up to expectations of his people
Ask Hatton how it feels to think about his only lose coming to somebody who constantly told him he was a piece a shit...
Ask Hatton how it feels to have your whole resume questioned after you lose to somebody who calls you a "C" Class fighter and people believe that as soon as you lose....
Cotto realizes what's at sake(read this part)
Cotto realizes what's at sake, That's why he doesn't called FLoyd out....Because if he calls Floyd Out and loses... All of the burden is on him..
But if the fans called Floyd out for him and he loses..., Some of the burden will go on his fans for putting him in that Position...and demanding Cotto Fight Floyd...even though Cotto has never called him out..
That's why Cotto never calls anybody out because he doesn't want to accept responsibility if he loses...He wants to have the excuse that I fought who they put in front on me, and I lost...!!
So it's Bob Arums can take responsibility to some degree...
and that's pretty smart, because anyway it goes he doesn't completely loses. IF he wins he doesn't lose, and if he loses, it's not completely his fought because he never ask for that fight he just fought who they put in front of him..
So Now I understand why Cotto never calls people out
So Now I understand why Cotto never calls people out, it is because he knows the consequences of doing that.. And he seen How it affects people..
So I expect Cotto to never Called Floyd out, because He knows what would happen if he loses after he calls out Floyd...He understand the instant pressure he would put on himself...and he does not want that..AS WE CAN SEE
Good GAME PLAN Cotto....
You seem like the only fighter who finally figure it out.., and Not call out fighters and put that unnecessary pressure on yourself...
You guys can hate on me and my thread all you want
You guys can hate on me and my thread all you want, but at the end of the day, you can not rule this as one of the reasons why Cotto wont call out floyd. Simply because he never has explain really why doesnt he do what his fans want him to do...
So after the Margarito Fight and Larry ask Now do you want to fight Mayweather....??
And Cotto says, "I fight who they put in front of me..::"
I HOPE YOU THINK OF THIS THREAD...!!! BECAUSE I SURE WILL..!!
Are u saying that Floyd should NOT face/take on his #1 contender because he (Cotto) hasnt called him out the way Margarito did? Answer me 1 question Horus. What did that get Margarito?????????????????
So can we ban this bitch for like quadruple posting this senseless bullshit and quoting himself repeatedly?
Now he wants to ban the messager....:lol1:
Dont hate the messager hate the Message:boxing:
Like i said before if you dont like what i am saying ignore it....
Nobody is forcing you to reply to my shit..:slap:
The Situation as I see it...
It's like when THIS,you got Floyd who has risen to the status of running the whole sport of boxing. He has been knocking out and beating all the previous fighters to challenge him. And Now he runs the sport. He is now been sitting fat, and making WAY TOO MUCH money, and really talking shit to anybody who would listen. He has set his aura of invincibility So High that People now want to see him beat at all cost.
So they search for the perfect Opponent to beat him by judging from the previous opponents he has beaten.
1. Cant be the same size. The fighter must be Bigger (Hatton)
2. Cant be to 3 years older because that's to old. (Oscar)
3. Cant be to slow (Baldomir)
4. Cant be to fast (Judah)
5. Cant have a Slow Work Rate. Cant Let Floyd Dictate Pace (Corralles)
6. Cant have a weak chin ( Ndou)
7. Cant be One Dimensional slugger (Gatti)
8. Cant Over pressure , because Floyd would counter punch all day( Castillo)
9. Cant lack Power ( Chavez)
10. Cant let Floyd stay in the middle of the ring..! (Mitchell)
Finally they come to the conclusion the fighter has
To be a big fighter, around the same age or younger, a power puncher, not to slow, but not to fast, has a high work rate, a strong chin, multi dimensional, balance pressure, and pressure Floyd to the Ropes.. And That will be the fighter that Beats Floyd.
So they look around and the closes thing they got is Cotto... He almost fix all the requirements, and he is undefeated...! HE OURS MAN....:banana:
This is what Cotto Fans Do..
So They call Floyd out for Cotto, everyday, every night, all the time...
But there is one problem... Cotto doesn't seem interested to challenge Floyd... He wont initiate the conflict, He is quite to the idea of Calling Floyd out for the people... and people are saying that he doesn't has to call out Floyd. we the fans will do it for him... :wtf:
There is the problem.... (read this part)
The Fans cant Fight For Cotto, only Cotto can fight for Cotto...
Cotto reluctance to fulfill the people the demands and become the anti Floyd is not being answered...
Simply because Cotto will be the one who has to fight Floyd, Not the Fans...
Cotto will Have to be the one dealing with Floyd's Harassment.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Masterful Defense.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Unmatch Speed.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Sneaky Power.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with Floyd's Infamous Mind Games.
Cotto is the one who will have to deal with the Heart Break Puerto Rico will feel if he loses.... Not the fans...
Ask Hatton how it feels
Ask Hatton how it feels to apologize to his fans and for crushing all their dreams...
Ask Hatton how it feels to drink himself into a depression because he could not live up to expectations of his people
Ask Hatton how it feels to think about his only lose coming to somebody who constantly told him he was a piece a shit...
Ask Hatton how it feels to have your whole resume questioned after you lose to somebody who calls you a "C" Class fighter and people believe that as soon as you lose....
Cotto realizes what's at sake(read this part)
Cotto realizes what's at sake, That's why he doesn't called FLoyd out....Because if he calls Floyd Out and loses... All of the burden is on him..
But if the fans called Floyd out for him and he loses..., Some of the burden will go on his fans for putting him in that Position...and demanding Cotto Fight Floyd...even though Cotto has never called him out..
That's why Cotto never calls anybody out because he doesn't want to accept responsibility if he loses...He wants to have the excuse that I fought who they put in front on me, and I lost...!!
So it's Bob Arums can take responsibility to some degree...
and that's pretty smart, because anyway it goes he doesn't completely loses. IF he wins he doesn't lose, and if he loses, it's not completely his fought because he never ask for that fight he just fought who they put in front of him..
So Now I understand why Cotto never calls people out
So Now I understand why Cotto never calls people out, it is because he knows the consequences of doing that.. And he seen How it affects people..
So I expect Cotto to never Called Floyd out, because He knows what would happen if he loses after he calls out Floyd...He understand the instant pressure he would put on himself...and he does not want that..AS WE CAN SEE
Good GAME PLAN Cotto....
You seem like the only fighter who finally figure it out.., and Not call out fighters and put that unnecessary pressure on yourself...
You guys can hate on me and my thread all you want
You guys can hate on me and my thread all you want, but at the end of the day, you can not rule this as one of the reasons why Cotto wont call out floyd. Simply because he never has explain really why doesnt he do what his fans want him to do...
So after the Margarito Fight and Larry ask Now do you want to fight Mayweather....??
And Cotto says, "I fight who they put in front of me..::"
I HOPE YOU THINK OF THIS THREAD...!!! BECAUSE I SURE WILL..!!
yup, that's why Mosley and Judah who prob. have more power then Floyd couldn't drop him..
You know that the punches you don't see hurt you the most.And that's how he will stop him.
Let Mayweather go and have his Mickey Mouse rematches with Hatton, De La Hoya....and Big Show. Cotto can concentrate on proper boxing and fighting actual competitors in the same weight division.
Like Gomez.....:ugh:
Cotto knows how to say "Floyd, you a ***. You ain't got no balls, *****!" If not, someone can most certainly teach him how.
Floyd responds to blatant disrespect of the sort. I am sure Cotto is not afraid but he needs to speak for himself. There's nothing wrong with that. His desires may differ from Arums, etc. for all we know. The only one to make Cotto's desire known is Cotto.
Why should Mayweather have to be called out to fight his biggest challenge? That's one of his many bullshit excuses. Bottom line, if Mayweather said he wanted to fight Cotto, the fight would be made today. If Cotto calls out Mayweather, the fight still won't get made, so why should Cotto bother calling Floyd out? Let Floyd do his own thing, Cotto has other shit to take care of.
I believe (or I shlould say REALLY HOPE) this fight happens. Right now with all the bullshit w/ Arum and Floyd, and not to mention the other fights that look like they have to happen first (Floyd/DLH, Cotto/Margarito) we won't see this until 2009. That being said, Floyd you're fucking 31, not 51. It's a shame to here a guy who says he's the all-time best talk like he's above it all and doesn't have anything else to prove. "Let them come to me, I'm the man". Bullshit. Floyd, think back to the greats of all time and ask yourself if they would say or do what your doing. This is THE division right now and you have a lion in the middle of it who looks like he will be the best when all is said and done, not to mention the other huge names in the mix. Look at next Saturday. Hopkins is 43 and fighting Calzaghe. Think about that. Wake up Floyd. 2009 should produce this fight. I'll be patient. If it doesn't, Floyd you're naturally gifted and one of the best, but never will you be THE best in my mind. Later.
No matter what Cotto Fans Say, Cotto had his Chance and blew it...
I truly now feel in my Heart Cotto doesn't want the fight, when Larry ask him about the fight... You could see in his face that he had no intentions to offend mayweather in anyway.... Dude doesn't want the fight....
Cotto is putting himself in the position where he can called out floyd...
and he Doesn't do it..
When Floyd put himself in the position to call out Oscar, he called him out..
When Hatton put himself in the position to call out Floyd, he called him out..
When Pavlik put himself in the position to call out Taylor, he called him out..
Now when Cotto is starting to put himself in the position to call out Floyd, he doesn't do it... Now Like I said Before I think the fight should happen after Cotto gets that other belt.. and That Will be the perfect position to call out Floyd...
But the point is that the challenger always calls out the Champion, when does the champion ever downgrades himself and calls out a challenger..
NEVER.. No self respecting Champion Does....
Cotto's needs the Call out Mayweather...
Because That's the way it goes...
Mayweather is at the top, he is in the position to respond to Credible challenges, Not to look for them...
And So Far Cotto has not Challenge him...
The only people putting stipulations on this match are Mayweather and his fans, why? When did this become a valid argument as to why this fight is not happening?
In case you missed my earlier post I'll ask you again.
What do you suppose is going to happen if Cotto calls him out? Do you honestly think Mayweather is going to drop his big money rematches with DLH and Hatton?
Cotto said he is willing to fight anyone his team puts on front of him. Mayweather said he doesn't want to fight Cotto. So in order for this fight to happen, who's shoulders does it fall on?
While Floyd Mayweather Jr. fiddles, the loaded welterweight division moves on without him. Now, the stage is set for the biggest showdown the 147-pounders have to offer: Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito.
Mayweather has never shown a desire to fight either boxer, but Cotto and Margarito have a history of fighting top opponents. Now, they'll fight each other.
Neither seemed particularly concerned about Mayweather -- especially not Cotto, who, when asked about Mayweather, quipped, "I'm a fighter, not a promoter."
Floyd is just a money fighter now," Steward said. "For welterweight fights, you can't get better than Cotto-Margarito. These are two rough guys and I can't wait to see it."
Please cool it with the giant red fonts. I thought my head was going to explode.
:scared:
Floyd is claiming that Cotto is isnt a big enough ppv draw. He said that he wont work with Arum. He said that he wont fight Cotto until Cotto becomes a CEO. He has NOT said that he wont fight him due to Cotto's reluctance to literally call him out. So what makes u think Floyd is holding out for Cotto to call him out, when he has already listed the reasons above for reasons why he is not interested in a fight with Cotto?