I'm surprised there's anything left of Hopkins and Calzaghe

u B Hop fans in this thread should 'nt ever utter the Words Floyd fanboy ever again ,otherwise u are hypocrites Hopkins destroyed Tarver OMG :pat:

Hopkins destroyed Tarver and beat Wright, Calzaghe beat Manfredo and Kessler you tell me which is better. Hopkins destroyed Tarver:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: have u atually ever watched the fight or are u extremely biased ,Hopkins never Destroyed him at all ,Tarver was'nt even hurt by the knockdown infact it was more to do with the fact he got caught square on ,at the end of the round it is Hopkins who is on the backfoot not Tarver there was about 5 punches in the whole fight ,took about overstating the win "Destroyed him ":lol1:

Calzaghe by UD. Hopkins gotta get old sometime, might as well be April 19th.

Who are you talking to? ME? When did Hopkins "destroy" Tarver??? He fought two close, low-output fights with him and lost both by decision. And Winky was CLEARLY a much smaller man. Manfredo was a joke opponent for publicity that should never have been sanctioned.... Kessler was better and more dangerous than Tarver OR Wright. Good posts. I agree totally. Apparently Joe has never been in a fight in his career and Winky Wright was not carrying 20lbs of blubber. Likewise Kessler is a bum and Tarver is world class. If enough people say it it must be true. LOL ________ Interracial Latina

Demonstrably no longer the fighter he used to be? Hmm. Demonstrate. OK. Bernard Hopkins was undefeated for 10 years and had a record breaking number of defences. He has lost two of his last four fights. ________ Amateur Oral

Who are you talking to? ME? When did Hopkins "destroy" Tarver??? He fought two close, low-output fights with him and lost both by decision. And Winky was CLEARLY a much smaller man. Manfredo was a joke opponent for publicity that should never have been sanctioned.... Kessler was better and more dangerous than Tarver OR Wright. Hopkins beat the shit out of Tarver. That's Taylor you are thinking of. And Kessler being better then Tarver or Wright is debateable, but it was definietly the riskier fight.

This fight has picked apart in excruciating detail on this forum, with the consensus seeming to swing back and forth almost at random. First of all Calzaghe was a heavy favourite, then people started wondering aloud whether Hopkins roughhouse tactics might be too much for him. Next came another swing back to Calzaghe, with a backlash against Hopkins age. Since then every aspect of each of the fighters games has at various times taken on the status of unbeatable weapon. Joe's handspeed, Bernard's counter right, culminating today in an analysis of Bernard's devastating footwork! It's too much! The analysis of this fight requires only one thing: "Plain and basic common sense" Bernard Hopkins is 43 years old and is demonstrably no longer the fighter he used to be. Joe Calzaghe has looked better with each of his recent performances and is younger, stronger and faster. Everything points to a Joe Calzaghe win. That is all. well he is the favorite, right?...everything you said is why the odds are stacked against the executioner...however, I'm still going with a B-Hop win only because of his track record...

Who are you talking to? ME? When did Hopkins "destroy" Tarver??? He fought two close, low-output fights with him and lost both by decision. And Winky was CLEARLY a much smaller man. Manfredo was a joke opponent for publicity that should never have been sanctioned.... Kessler was better and more dangerous than Tarver OR Wright. hopkins beat tarver, i think you're mistaken with taylor, who by the way got two gifts from hbo and their hand picked judges.............. taylor did not take a way hopkins belts, not in the sense of what you have to do to take the belts away from the reigning champion at least........ total gifts. taylor was out landed by hopkins, i know for sure in the first fight and i think he eeked him out by a smaller margin in the second fight, but none the less, hopkins did beat tarver.........................real bad too.........

Hopkins destroyed Tarver and beat Wright, Calzaghe beat Manfredo and Kessler you tell me which is better.

Winky's volume didn't win it for him. And he was very much busier than Hopkins throughout that fight. Also, I really dont think Joe's gonna land as many punches as usual. He's fighting the best fighter of his career. A guy who hits and doesn't get hit. A guy who knows how to judge the distance of a punch and use the ropes. He's the complete article. Calzaghe will be busier, but the more important, meaningful punches will be landed by Bernard, especially I think coming off the ropes and out of clinches.

Demonstrably no longer the fighter he used to be? Hmm. Demonstrate. Sure, he was more active several years ago, but his style has changed more than his skills have declined; that's clever. Case in point: his win over Glen Johnson several years ago (can't even remember when that was, 97?) was a 12 round massacre where Hopkins threw bundles of punches every round (not unlike Calzaghe incidentally), whereas in the Tarver fight he threw less, but was no less effective. That's called preservation. Keeping one eye on father time. Hopkins to win Hops might actually land much cleaner and more effective punches, but it's Calzaghe's volume of lesser quality stuff that will beat Hops on all cards. Hops could afford to be economical against Tarver, who's getting sleepier and slower with every fight, but Zaghe aint Tarver. And, there's no way Hops can repeat his Glen Johnson performance, because it's just not in him, but it's exactly that performance he needs to beat Zaghe.

Demonstrably no longer the fighter he used to be? Hmm. Demonstrate. Sure, he was more active several years ago, but his style has changed more than his skills have declined; that's clever. Case in point: his win over Glen Johnson several years ago (can't even remember when that was, 97?) was a 12 round massacre where Hopkins threw bundles of punches every round (not unlike Calzaghe incidentally), whereas in the Tarver fight he threw less, but was no less effective. That's called preservation. Keeping one eye on father time. Hopkins proves age is only a number. He still gets up every morning to run, sleeps early, never lets his weight stray north, eats healthily and maintains focus. For some fighters, who rely on handspeed or power, age can be a problem because both of those things diminish somewhat over time (power less so), and stamina also deteriorates to a degree. Hopkins throws less punches nowadays, but he's always been very selective in that area anyway, he just used to prefer going forward all night. Hopkins to win

Demonstrably no longer the fighter he used to be? Hmm. Demonstrate. Sure, he was more active several years ago, but his style has changed more than his skills have declined; that's clever. Case in point: his win over Glen Johnson several years ago (can't even remember when that was, 97?) was a 12 round massacre where Hopkins threw bundles of punches every round (not unlike Calzaghe incidentally), whereas in the Tarver fight he threw less, but was no less effective. That's called preservation. Keeping one eye on father time. Hopkins proves age is only a number. He still gets up every morning to run, sleeps early, never lets his weight stray north, eats healthily and maintains focus. For some fighters, who rely on handspeed or power, age can be a problem because both of those things diminish somewhat over time (power less so), and stamina also deteriorates to a degree. Hopkins throws less punches nowadays, but he's always been very selective in that area anyway, he just used to prefer going forward all night. Hopkins to win

That's it abadger, Keep building up those points for me! Haha. You are my nemesis. I was thinking of saying the same thing to you. May the best man win! ________ SILVERSURFER VAPORIZER

Even the racist stuff isn't getting me interested. I'll end up watching like always, but if this was PPV I wouldn't even go to a bar to catch it.

I mean I don't care about this fight AT ALL just because of the matchup. I don't think it will be exciting and I don't think either guy is going to come close to getting hurt or stopped. Would love to be proved wrong of course. It's a fight that's really 6 years too late. It's big for Calzaghe (but ALL of his fights are now that he wants to retire with only one good win on his resume), but not Hopkins. I just hope Hopkins treats it like his last whether it is or not and actually fights. I've never picked against Hopkins other than the Taylor fights, but I am strongly leaning towards Joe in this one simply because Hop has to eventually get old, right? If not now, WHEN?!?!?!?!