Has Pacquiao surpassed Mayweather as the #1 P4P fighter

I would say no because Manny wouldn't beat PBF if they fought. I heard Manny weighed 145 in the ring against JMM. How much did Marquez weigh in the ring?

Casa, Freitas, KOstya, Spafa, Marg, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Quintana, etc. Yeah he did DUCK the best. Just about as stupid as you can be eh? But if you're a man who prefer cowards then I won't even try arguing w you. I'm arguing w men who prefer dignified champs. Not with cowards. and your trying to say they would lose to them? c'mon now man Cotto is the only man on that list that has a good chance of beating floyd Baldomir was the ring magazine #1 undisputed title holder, flody beat him eaisly, DLH was a deff KO threat as well as hatton, he's #1 in the sport bar none, untill he loses he will be #1

Pac's still no.2 nobody's touching Floyd's throne as p4p king

Surpassed? Imo Pac Has Always Been In The 1st Slot. But, From What I've Heard Marquez Was Robbed(i Have'nt Seen The Fight Yet), If This Is The Case Then I Would Say Floyds Spot At The Top Is Secured, For Now Anyways.

well from the RBR i read on here pac was getting his ass beat by JMM and even got cut, and won a SD, so he is still #2 imo, he is an exciting fighter but he dose not hold the titles and the movments in weight classes like PBF dose, yes if Cal beats b-hop he is #2.

Pacquiao's opposition is certainly impressive, but still not as impressive to me as Mayweather's opposition. Pacquiao's biggest victories by far are JMM, Barrera, Morales, in any order you like. Outside of those, there's nobody really special. Good fighters, absolutely, but not top top fighters, not in my opinion. Mayweather, on the other hand, has Corrales, Castillo, Judah, DLH, Hatton, and Genaro Hernandez. Let us even throw Oscar Larios on Pacquiao's pile. Fine, then I give you Mitchell, Corley, Manfredy, Gatti, Carlos Famoso Hernandez, and Sosa. Going by resume, it's really not even close, as good as Pacquiao is, his resume still isn't as good as Mayweather's. Also, Mayweather didn't lose to any journeymen. Pac has been knocked out in 3 rounds twice by virtual journeymen. One was definitely a journeyman, the other was an 18-0 guy with a very padded record. Yes, Pac drained himself and just couldn't make the weight, we all know this. However, Mayweather has broken hands in fights and fought through the pain to get the victories. Even if you disagree with the first Castillo fight (which I don't), Mayweather still fought through injuries to make it the distance. As for risk, Mayweather's last two opponents were Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton. He convincingly beat them both in the same year. De La Hoya was a definite knockout threat and Mayweather fought him at a career high weight. Some would argue that De La Hoya was old. He was the same age as JMM when Pac fought JMM in the rematch this week, 34. Hatton was certainly young and unquestionably a serious threat. Pacquiao is an amazing fighter, one of my favorites, but it isn't fair to give him more credit than Mayweather when Mayweather has clearly done more so far (in my opinion at least). Remember, Mayweather dominated his biggest threats. Pacquiao got a split decision that many disagree with (even though I personally scored the fight in Pacquiao's favor). OH SHIT!! Don Omega said something that made perfect sense and that I can agree with.

Casa, Freitas, KOstya, Spafa, Marg, Cotto, Williams, Mosley, Quintana, etc. Yeah he did DUCK the best. Just about as stupid as you can be eh? But if you're a man who prefer cowards then I won't even try arguing w you. I'm arguing w men who prefer dignified champs. Not with cowards. Casamayor or Freitas was not in the division at the time that Mayweather was there. Casamayor was only an up and comer at the time and was not a big enough name. Mosley had a chance to fight Mayeather after the wins over Vargas but didn't want to take the fight at that time because of his dentures in his mouth. The Spadofora fight was highly talked about until Paul went to jail for shooting his girlfriend in the chest for messing up his car. He held his own against Mayweather in sparring and the actual fight would have been interesting. Which i would have favored Mayweather in a good fight. Mayweather was also coming from a long lay off and was out of shape when the sparring session occurred. When you had that Joepal account, you continuously hated on Mayeather for no particular reason. You also kept talking about how Hatton would knock Mayweather out and when he lost, you said that you picked Mayweather to win anyway. You are clearly a joke that doesn't need to be taken seriously. and your biased for Pacquaio needs a little rethinking. Get your facts straight.

You want evidence? Make sure you don't buckle up on your word when absolute evidence is shoved straight to your face. Fake Floyd fans seems to emulate the undignified Fake Floyd. I'm not even a fan of Mayweather and I can tell you're full of shit. Floyd doesn't back it up? When has he not backed it up? Are you going to give me a list of names including Margarito and Williams now? Fucking Margarito and Williams.

He fought the number 1 140 pounder (hatton) and the number 1 154 pounder (de la hoya although not everyone rates him at number 1) in his last 2 fights. Then before that he fought the number 1 rated 147 pounder (bldomir). These are fighters that you might call crap but the point is that at the time floyd fought them they were the number 1 guys between 140-154 pounds. I wouldn't say that Baldomir was ever the best at 147 lbs but at the time the real clamour was for a fight with Margarito, who is now well off the radar. The only real fight at 147 for Floyd now is Cotto, but there's more money in a fight with De La Hoya or even a Hatton rematch in England.

Pacquiao's opposition is certainly impressive, but still not as impressive to me as Mayweather's opposition. Pacquiao's biggest victories by far are JMM, Barrera, Morales, in any order you like. Outside of those, there's nobody really special. Good fighters, absolutely, but not top top fighters, not in my opinion. Mayweather, on the other hand, has Corrales, Castillo, Judah, DLH, Hatton, and Genaro Hernandez. Let us even throw Oscar Larios on Pacquiao's pile. Fine, then I give you Mitchell, Corley, Manfredy, Gatti, Carlos Famoso Hernandez, and Sosa. Going by resume, it's really not even close, as good as Pacquiao is, his resume still isn't as good as Mayweather's. Also, Mayweather didn't lose to any journeymen. Pac has been knocked out in 3 rounds twice by virtual journeymen. One was definitely a journeyman, the other was an 18-0 guy with a very padded record. Yes, Pac drained himself and just couldn't make the weight, we all know this. However, Mayweather has broken hands in fights and fought through the pain to get the victories. Even if you disagree with the first Castillo fight (which I don't), Mayweather still fought through injuries to make it the distance. As for risk, Mayweather's last two opponents were Oscar De La Hoya and Ricky Hatton. He convincingly beat them both in the same year. De La Hoya was a definite knockout threat and Mayweather fought him at a career high weight. Some would argue that De La Hoya was old. He was the same age as JMM when Pac fought JMM in the rematch this week, 34. Hatton was certainly young and unquestionably a serious threat. Pacquiao is an amazing fighter, one of my favorites, but it isn't fair to give him more credit than Mayweather when Mayweather has clearly done more so far (in my opinion at least). Remember, Mayweather dominated his biggest threats. Pacquiao got a split decision that many disagree with (even though I personally scored the fight in Pacquiao's favor).

What I surmise is that Fake Floyd fans seem to admire cowards and undignified punks who puts no value on honor and class. I mean it's all basic. Fake Floyd runs his mouth like a lil bitch yet he can't back it up. The list of opponents he has ducked are SO FCKING MANY a beggar will puke at such a disgrace. And yet I still can't wonder how on this good earth they put him p4p. BEING THE BEST MEANS FIGHTING THE BEST. It's all common sense and I cannot understand how these chumps can't see that. Belts mean nothing. Titles mean nothing. At the end of the day one will be judged on the who's who of one's accomplishments. Basic common sense which I can't understand why they don't posses. He fought the number 1 140 pounder (hatton) and the number 1 154 pounder (de la hoya although not everyone rates him at number 1) in his last 2 fights. Then before that he fought the number 1 rated 147 pounder (bldomir). These are fighters that you might call crap but the point is that at the time floyd fought them they were the number 1 guys between 140-154 pounds.

Fake Floyd runs his mouth like a lil bitch yet he can't back it up. Are you for real?

Most deffinatly not! P4P isn't supposed to be on who you have fought its if guys could fight without weight in the equation. But anyway Floyd is a 5 division champ so even if it was Floyd would be numero uno!

Sucks when Ring mag's #2 and #3 P4P fight, and the winner is still not #1. Yet the #1 faces shit comp, and goes into WWF. That makes sense. What you need to understand is that the p4p rankings are not seeding. You don't get to be number one by beating the number two or number three. It's entirely about theoretically who would win so in a way who you have beaten is largely irrelevent. Indeed the manner of victory is more important than the skill of the opponent. P4p is measured by skill. Common sense. Skill is measured by resume Another common sense. Resume is measured by taking on the best. Another lesson in common sense. You are confusing the terms "common sense" and "my opinion".

But then again. P4p is measured by skill. Common sense. Skill is measured by resume Another common sense. Resume is measured by taking on the best. Another lesson in common sense. Freitas, Casa, Spafa, KOstya, Margarito, Williams, Cotto, Quintana, Mosley, etc. You know those names so we will not argue anymore on that. And dude don't talk to me like Fake Floyd shoots lightning bolts out of his ass. I'd be amazed if he still shoots bolts of lightning out of his ass once he takes on the best of every division he jumps in, Not take on Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, a shot DLH, Corley, etc. It's not even debatable. Floyd has fought : The Best At 130 - G. Hernandez, Corrales The Best at 135 - Castillo 2x The Best at 140 - Hatton (The man Tszyu lost and Ricky ducked him but eventually fought him at 47, it counts as beating the best guy at 140.) The Best at 147 - Badlomir (The Ring Magzine, WBC, Linear, Recognized Champ Would have been Undisputed had he paid all his sanctioning fees for the Judah fight.) What's so hard to understand about facts? This isn't a popularity contest.

The question is simple. It will determine who among us prefer cowards or those who prefer dignified champs. WHICH IS MORE WORTHY.. FIGHTING A BLOWN-UP WELTER OR FIGHTING A TOP3 P4P GUY? The answers are easy. If you prefer the coward of course ul pick the guy who fought the blown-up welter. But if you prefer the dignified champ. You don't need to look any further. I guess if the question was who do you wish was the p4p #1, but it wasn't. I don't see how barely beating JMM would catapult him past PBF. PBF made Hatton look silly and the DLH fight wasn't nearly as close as say Pac/JMM. When Floyd starts having controversial dec. then I may be inclined to reconsider.

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No because his decision win over JMM is disputed by many.

Of course Pac is the best. The fight was very close BECAUSE JMM-PAC ARE TWO OF THE VERY BEST going at it. Now how could one in all brainiac sense every consider Fake Floyd as p4p when all he does is duck and weave like a coward that he is yet Pac and JMM is the no.2 and 3 p4p going at it like nuts. K. I have eyes. lol Pacquiao flat out isn't on Floyd's level. P4P he hits harder, and might have faster hands.........perhaps is the faster fighter in a pure sense. Floyd is smarter, much more gifted technically, has maybe the best defensive skill set of any fighter who has ever fought including Whitaker (arguable.) You can point to him getting floored by Judah, stunned by Corley, and all that but at the end of the day he's still undefeated. Him capturing all the titles moving up in weight, and dismantling a prime P4P superstar in Hatton and Gate draw/legend in Oscar was impressive..........because he had already beaten the other solid guys in Corrales, Chavez and Castillo. Pac was beat by Morales, beat a Barrera who was far too slow and technical for his awkward speed attack, beat up a Morales who already showed that he grew old overnight by taking a vicious beating from Raheem (I don't think the blown up weight was the difference maker, that was Morales showing clear signs of deterioration in his reflexes and coordination). Twice, lol. And then beat up the same Barrera who had the tough third fight with Morales as well as the two with Juarez. And in my eyes he should be 0-2 against Marquez. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

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