Anderson Silva Vs Roy Jones Jr!?

i agree pretty much with everything you typed. one thing though, those gif's also show how offensive minded MMA fighters can get to the point of forgetting what defense can actually help you do. I really hope to see Silva lace up Gloves to start building his boxing career. I think he's done pretty much everything he could do in UFC at this point. Hes pretty much cleaned out 185. Personally I don't want him in boxing because I want to see just how far he can take his MMA career. Have him move up to 205 and test his skills there. Silva is a huge MW, hes 6' 2" and walks around at 210-212.

I agree it doesn't prove much, it proves a single athlete in MMA is incredible and is able to have success in different combat sports. They're using the angle "All these boxers out there talking shit how MMA fighters aren't technical", but at this point I don't think that mentality flying as much from the boxing world or general public as it used to. Everyone across the board is getting more educated on MMA and they are realizing "Hey this isn't the sport of punching, there is a reason why its called Mixed Martial Arts, there is a reason why these guys don't use a traditional boxing stance, its a different sport". And what we are now seeing is what has been predicted all along, as MMA grows there going to be the "prototype" fighters coming out that are really athletic guys who excel in every aspect of the game. Silva is one of those guys right now. 20 years from now theres going to be a whole bunch of guys who not only have sick ground skills but guys who have sick stand up skills as well...being able to see the punch coming and can judge that it is not gonna connect to his face. He excels at to rapidly judging a punch in MMA Henderson Fight: 1. Watch carefully how he just waits for the punch to pass http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/ricox_photobucket/SilvaHendo-avoidpunch1.gif 2. Watch how he just waits and then goes to work on Dan. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/ricox_photobucket/SilvaHendo-avoidpunch2.gif From the Leben fight: 1. Taking candy from a baby http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/ricox_photobucket/20060628vsChrisLebenUFN5-new.gif I don't see the fight happening at all. Hes under UFC contract, Dana White will not let him fight. White isn't stupid, hes comes from a boxing background and doesn't want his star athlete fighting outside the UFC, especially in a different sport. i agree pretty much with everything you typed. one thing though, those gif's also show how offensive minded MMA fighters can get to the point of forgetting what defense can actually help you do. I really hope to see Silva lace up Gloves to start building his boxing career. I think he's done pretty much everything he could do in UFC at this point.

Another thing, if Silva were to be successful in Boxing, how much would that really prove? His goal is to prove that MMA fighter are just as technical as Boxers, but he is argueably the top dude in MMA at the moment so anything less from him as far as technique would not be expected. It would be much more significant if tier 2 MMA fighters were to be successful. I agree it doesn't prove much, it proves a single athlete in MMA is incredible and is able to have success in different combat sports. They're using the angle "All these boxers out there talking shit how MMA fighters aren't technical", but at this point I don't think that mentality flying as much from the boxing world or general public as it used to. Everyone across the board is getting more educated on MMA and they are realizing "Hey this isn't the sport of punching, there is a reason why its called Mixed Martial Arts, there is a reason why these guys don't use a traditional boxing stance, its a different sport". And what we are now seeing is what has been predicted all along, as MMA grows there going to be the "prototype" fighters coming out that are really athletic guys who excel in every aspect of the game. Silva is one of those guys right now. 20 years from now theres going to be a whole bunch of guys who not only have sick ground skills but guys who have sick stand up skills as well...being able to see the punch coming and can judge that it is not gonna connect to his face. He excels at to rapidly judging a punch in MMA Henderson Fight: 1. Watch carefully how he just waits for the punch to pass http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/ricox_photobucket/SilvaHendo-avoidpunch1.gif 2. Watch how he just waits and then goes to work on Dan. http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/ricox_photobucket/SilvaHendo-avoidpunch2.gif From the Leben fight: 1. Taking candy from a baby http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh275/ricox_photobucket/20060628vsChrisLebenUFN5-new.gif I don't see the fight happening at all. Hes under UFC contract, Dana White will not let him fight. White isn't stupid, hes comes from a boxing background and doesn't want his star athlete fighting outside the UFC, especially in a different sport.

All totally irrelevant. Neither of those guys was a boxer, and it wasn't a boxing match. Assuming there would be any crossover audience for a boxing match with Roy Jones is speculation at best. You have a guy whose career is owned by Dana White (who has never promoted a major boxing event) along with one of the most demanding and egotistical boxers ever. Good luck getting that done. Because we all know a website like boxingscene.com covers MMA on the FRONT page for shits and giggles.

Simple Silva is the first guy to get such a high status who happens to also have sick standup skills in MMA. Also Silva is the first guy to actually ask for it(which I find it hard to believe he would actually would want to do it unless the payday is there.) LOL...co-main event. Do you know that the Lesnar Mir was the original main event that was promoted. Then they signed on Sylvia vs Nogeria and ONLY had that as the last match because it was an Interm HW fight. The draw was for Lesnar Mir. You what the numbers were predicted with out the Lesnar Mir were? 350,000...there was an article on it last month descibing Lesnar's impact on ratings. UFC ppvs do not normally do over 600,000. Yes there has been some....UFC 79, 71, 66 and 61 are the only ones I believe that have and they were all huge established names in MMA. Liddell, Ortiz, Gracie....UFC was able to get a Lesnar PPV, a guy with 1 mma fight against a complete can with 40,000 PPVs previous, and sell one of their highest grossing events. All totally irrelevant. Neither of those guys was a boxer, and it wasn't a boxing match. Assuming there would be any crossover audience for a boxing match with Roy Jones is speculation at best. You have a guy whose career is owned by Dana White (who has never promoted a major boxing event) along with one of the most demanding and egotistical boxers ever. Good luck getting that done.

All you have to do is notice the advertisementsand sponsors that appear during both shows. Like Bud light? http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/23397833/

Another thing, if Silva were to be successful in Boxing, how much would that really prove? His goal is to prove that MMA fighter are just as technical as Boxers, but he is argueably the top dude in MMA at the moment so anything less from him as far as technique would not be expected. It would be much more significant if tier 2 MMA fighters were to be successful.

Thats a completely false statement. Yes there is a large portion of MMA fans that used to watch wrestling, yes there are current wrestling fans that watch MMA. But you can't make a statement like "Wrestling fans are also MMA fans" Thats ridiculous...I have yet to meet one MMA fan who watches WWE. Not to say they are not out there but the majority of MMA fans do not watch wrestling. Retard, have you ever heard of marketing databases? or target market? Wrestling and MMA share a large part of their respective demographics. (it's quite evident where you are in this demographic). Granted the WWE aim their product at a younger audience, but there is a huge overlap with MMA's market. All you have to do is notice the advertisementsand sponsors that appear during both shows.

Well if it's such a good idea, how come nobody has tried it? Simple Silva is the first guy to get such a high status who happens to also have sick standup skills in MMA. Also Silva is the first guy to actually ask for it(which I find it hard to believe he would actually would want to do it unless the payday is there.) The UFC fight you speak of was a co-main event, and those numbers aren't unprecented for one of their shows. I think it is you that doesn't understand marketing. Most boxing fans don't care about carnival sports. LOL...co-main event. Do you know that the Lesnar Mir was the original main event that was promoted. Then they signed on Sylvia vs Nogeria and ONLY had that as the last match because it was an Interm HW fight. The draw was for Lesnar Mir. You what the numbers were predicted with out the Lesnar Mir were? 350,000...there was an article on it last month descibing Lesnar's impact on ratings. UFC ppvs do not normally do over 600,000. Yes there has been some....UFC 79, 71, 66 and 61 are the only ones I believe that have and they were all huge established names in MMA. Liddell, Ortiz, Gracie....UFC was able to get a Lesnar PPV, a guy with 1 mma fight against a complete can with 40,000 PPVs previous, and sell one of their highest grossing events.

What about Kimbo vs Ray Mercer? Mercer was in his prime right? j/k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UcmIQ4xLrY i've seen that fight, and i knew the result before it happened. Mercer is too old, and too fat to be participating in any sport. and by that i mean even golf. the guy is so old that he might pull a muscle at a swing of a golf club. mercer knows that he cant go on with boxing anymore, the guy is pushing 50 and his name wont do much on any up and coming fighter's record, eventhough mercer is a big name. morrison on the other hand, wont get licensed to fight anywhere unless it's mexico, so he did a one time thing in the MMA ring. Logic is simple, they were standing, morrison threw a left hook and smashed the guys bose in bloody bits. Took the bread home, and after that Chuck Lidell stopped wanting to fight him all of a sudden lol

This whole shit talking began like what 2 years ago. during that period how many boxers stepepd up in MMA ring???? that's what i thought, and dont even start with tommy morrison. What about Kimbo vs Ray Mercer? Mercer was in his prime right? j/k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UcmIQ4xLrY

As I stated before, you don't know anything about marketing. With the proper promoter this thing does over 500,000 buys. Thats why the UFC is brilliant at what they do, they are brilliant at marketing. Brock Lesnar's first MMA fight did around 40,000 buys. UFC got a hold of him and did 650,000 buys in his second MMA fight. De La Hoya Mayweather only did those insane PPV #s because HBO did the 24/7 shows. You think they would gotten any where near 2.15 million without HBO's brilliant documentary? Its all about promoting the product...and the right promoter can sell a lot of PPVs with these two. Well if it's such a good idea, how come nobody has tried it? The UFC fight you speak of was a co-main event, and those numbers aren't unprecented for one of their shows. I think it is you that doesn't understand marketing. Most boxing fans don't care about carnival sports.

There is no comparison with the Mir-Lesnar MMA match. Lesnar was a proven grappler and a legit tough guy. This is entirely different. Nobody would pay to see the unqualified Silva get punched out by a former champion in a boxing match. People aren't that stupid. You wouldn't see more than 100,00 buys for it. If they make the fight (and they won't), contact me and we can discuss it some more. As I stated before, you don't know anything about marketing. With the proper promoter this thing does over 500,000 buys. Thats why the UFC is brilliant at what they do, they are brilliant at marketing. Brock Lesnar's first MMA fight did around 40,000 buys. UFC got a hold of him and did 650,000 buys in his second MMA fight. De La Hoya Mayweather only did those insane PPV #s because HBO did the 24/7 shows. You think they would gotten any where near 2.15 million without HBO's brilliant documentary? Its all about promoting the product...and the right promoter can sell a lot of PPVs with these two.

mma, ufc, pride fighting and all that shit are on different time zones, they need to wake up and start smelling the smoke blowing out their asses from a boxer's punch. this fucker floyd started with that shit, and they wont finish. you'd start to think that ufc is seeking attention every time they jump on a boxer. no hating on these guys but on a stand up ground any ufc fighter will get murdered by a boxer, period. end of sentence. they are all conditioned athletes involved in a competitive sport, and that's what they should stick to, their own sport. seriously did any baseball player ever start shit with a basketball player or vice versa. these are different sports, and in the end it's all hypetalking BS, cus no boxer would ever agree to rules of UFC, just as MMA guys wont agree to boxing rules. in the end it's all empty talk, why waste the energy. this whole shit is stupid altogether, this is a boxing website, why are there threads about UFC??? im not a hater, i enjoy UFC as well, but there are different forums for this shit. This whole shit talking began like what 2 years ago. during that period how many boxers stepepd up in MMA ring???? that's what i thought, and dont even start with tommy morrison.

And that's why I don't see this as a marketable event. Then you don't know anything about marketing. The top P4P MMA fighter going against a former P4P boxer in boxing is marketable without doubt. A former Pro Wrestling guy going against a former UFC champ did 650,000 buys a month ago. There is no comparison with the Mir-Lesnar MMA match. Lesnar was a proven grappler and a legit tough guy. This is entirely different. Nobody would pay to see the unqualified Silva get punched out by a former champion in a boxing match. People aren't that stupid. You wouldn't see more than 100,00 buys for it. If they make the fight (and they won't), contact me and we can discuss it some more.

they completely different forms of fighting so i duno maybe roy jones because hes bigger then silva ? but maybe silva cause he does more who knows in a boxing match roy takes it but in mma roy losses lol

this would do well because it will be the first time big names from two different forms of fighting would go at each other. They would market it as ufc vs boxing. it would be a huge event all mma and boxing fans would get it. whether it was a mma event or boxing event. in boxing rjj would beat the shit out of him. in mma i still think rjj or any boxer has a chance because they are standing up throwing and no way an mma could stand up with a boxer. they will try to go to the ground but who's to say they would actually be able to get in close to grab them without gettting knocked out by a solid uppercut.

can you please quote where i directly and clearly stated that boxing and mma markets do not share a relationship? Ok, so you're saying Boxing fans are also MMA fans. I'm just simply keeping up with your logic with your original comment about the Lesnar PPV numbers. Lesnar in UFC = High PPV #s because Wrestling fans are also MMA fans Mayweather in UFC = High PPV #s because Boxing fans are also MMA fans

Let me put it this way, if Mayweather fought BJ Penn in a LW MMA fight I guarantee you a ton of boxing fans would order that fight. Would that be because MMA and Boxing markets already having a relationship? can you please quote where i directly and clearly stated that boxing and mma markets do not share a relationship?

i know theres a good chance of marketability, but the Lesnar fight was propelled because of both MMA and Wrestling markets already having a relationship. Let me put it this way, if Mayweather fought BJ Penn in a LW MMA fight I guarantee you a ton of boxing fans would order that fight. Would that be because MMA and Boxing markets already having a relationship?