Vasquez-Marquez III = Chacon-Limon IV

Oh, I understand perfectly well how he could be upset, but his adamant claims of "bullshit" were a bit disrespectful to Vasquez (who also fought a great fight no matter how you scored it) wouldn't you agree? Additionally, let me add that it may have been Marquez's translator (who looked extremely pissed, was he a cornerman?) who made it appear so over the top. If Marquez is still bitching in a couple of days that would be sour grapes. But his adrenalin had to be pumping hard and after all that training and such a brutal fight, he had to be terribly disappointed. It's what makes him a great competitor. The translator was definitely one of Raf's people. My Spanish isn't good enough to determine the accuracy of his translation, but I will say that RM's body language seemed to make it believable. Who knows, he might even be calmed down by the post fight press conference.

I do have to take exception to not understanding why Marquez would be disappointed (and a bit irrational) in losing such a torrid fight. Oh, I understand perfectly well how he could be upset, but his adamant claims of "bullshit" were a bit disrespectful to Vasquez (who also fought a great fight no matter how you scored it) wouldn't you agree? Additionally, let me add that it may have been Marquez's translator (who looked extremely pissed, was he a cornerman?) who made it appear so over the top.

Tonight's match has clearly elevated itself into the legendary echelon of fights in boxing history - and I was particularly struck by the parallels between the rubber match and 1982 FOTY Chacon-Limon IV. In both fights the fighters had faced each other multiple times before. Both fights involved the winning fighter clinching the win only through a knockdown in the last seconds of the final round. Both fighters were down in both fights, and the fighter who came on late took the victory (Vasquez, Chacon). Hell, Vasquez even looks a bit similar to Chacon in the ring (once Chacon would get bloodied up a bit), and both are undeniably infighters. Of course the skill level displayed in tonight's fight was on a higher level than the war in 1982 (both Vasquez and Marquez are skilled boxer-punchers), but in sheer brutality and toughness displayed by both fighters involved, they belong together in the annals of boxing history. Although I didn't score the fight, personally I thought Vasquez took it by at least 1 point with the final knockdown no matter how favorably one scored the earlier rounds for Marquez. I also felt Marquez was a bit classless in the post-fight interview, especially when there was no shame in losing a split decision and he only gained more respect in the eyes of the boxing world through his great performance. That said, if this fight had gone 15 rounds like in the old days, I think Vasquez would have certainly finished the job as strong as he looked in the 12th :boxing: Additionally, I am not in favor of a fourth fight; these two are dangerous, and may have already taken too much out of each other. At some point as a fan of a fighter you have to be concerned about his safety and not just selfishly demand that he continues onward until he leaves the ring on his shield. Thoughts? That was an excellent contribution for your second post. I'm sending you some green k to get you started off right. I do have to take exception to not understanding why Marquez would be disappointed (and a bit irrational) in losing such a torrid fight.

This was a great great fight but your comparing it to probably the best fight ever. Chacon vs Limon 4 is a must see for any boxing fan,incredible eb and flow.

Vasquez vs Marquez was more technical and skilled but if you like two guys taking punches without any regards for defense, you should watch Chacon vs Limon IV. It was just non-stop, two guys slugging it out. A shame what happened to Chacon, hopefully the same won't happen to Vasquez and Marquez. Yeah, that's a sobering thought. Bobby Chacon is almost childlike now.

this was better then the limon-chacon fights. The quality of boxing was better, but it wasn't any more savage.

Note that I didn't deny, but echoed your claims that Vasquez-Marquez III was on a higher skill level. I was simply pointing out the very striking parallels, especially in how the fight ended (with the outcome of the fight resting upon a last-second knockdown in the scoring).

this was better then the limon-chacon fights.

I bet with someone but I have no idea who I bet with because I forgot to sig it. It was me you bet Marquez would win and I took it for 2,000,000.00 points and 5,000 cash

I bet with someone but I have no idea who I bet with because I forgot to sig it.

Vasquez vs Marquez was more technical and skilled but if you like two guys taking punches without any regards for defense, you should watch Chacon vs Limon IV. It was just non-stop, two guys slugging it out. A shame what happened to Chacon, hopefully the same won't happen to Vasquez and Marquez.

Both of the fights were wars but I think Vazquez-Marquez 3 was better because of the skill level of the 2 fighters. I agree about the fourth fight, I don't really want to see it happen for their health.