I feel sorry for Wlad's next opponent

Probably the US, but not necessarily. I'd like to be in Miami chilling in the sun, I'll admit. But no. I'm stuck here in Bergen, Norway, it's cold, raining and it's early in the morning. Why I'm not asleep after driving taxi all night is beyond me.

You're not really in Norway, are you? Where do you suppose I am if not in Norway?

Agreed. Tunny is use to this type of stuff. Maybe so. But that doesn't warrant this: "Another moron, sucking on the two racists." It made me horny.

Tunney & Wlad owns are too used to arguing with idiotic Klitschko haters. That racism stuff probably works against many of the Klitschko haters because they actually do hate white boxers. I've seen that stuff in these forums and it's ugly. But when you put down Ali for facing past prime opposition and praise Marciano for doing it, you better expect someone to say something about it. Agreed. Tunny is use to this type of stuff.

Tunney & Wlad owns are too used to arguing with idiotic Klitschko haters. That racism stuff probably works against many of the Klitschko haters because they actually do hate white boxers. I've seen that stuff in these forums and it's ugly. But when you put down Ali for facing past prime opposition and praise Marciano for doing it, you better expect someone to say something about it.

I'll sig that, and edit it like you did to my post. You may believe white men like Rocky are weak and inferior, but I bet it wouldn't have taken him long to KO you. I didn't say that. I simply erased some of what you said. You put words in my mouth so i guess i'll do that with yours.:ugh:

Slick & The Manchine vs Tunney & Wlad Owns. This is the most one-sided beating I have ever witnessed live. Intelligent reasoning and pure facts get twisted by these two warmongers. Tunney & Wlad Owns; You guys are being royally spanked here. Do you argue just to prove the level of stupidity?

I'll sig that, and edit it like you did to my post. I just made it smaller so it wouldn't be too big. :fing02:

stop being a pussy, he isnt gonna do shit. period WOW, what a well thought out post from a Klitschko hating retard.....Wlad has 44 KO's in 50 wins, he will most likely destroy his next victim by brutal KO or TKO.........Wlad has a Dominant virtual shutout yet lackluster performance and the Haters crawl out from under a rock to bash him.:nonono: You Klitschko haters are PATHETIC

Ezzard Charles was taller than Rocky, and weighed more when they fought. Lots of people start out in one weight class and move up as they naturally fill out as they get older. Rocky was shorter and weighed less than all his title fight opponents. So him being taller than Rocky means that hes not past his true prime? Tommy Hearns was past his prime when he was at middleweight, so did Hagler beat peak Hearns? No, he beat a fighter that was still good but past his prime weight class. Its Just like the Charles/Marciano situation.

The Manchine is a self hating whiteboy from Finland, he seems to always bash white fighters....He claims to be a Klitschko fan, but he bashes Wlad and Vitali all the time...The Manchine is a white honky hater that nuthugs black fighters. Such a nuthugger of black fighters... That's probably why I have Jake "The Bronx Bull" LaMotta knocking Robinson out of the ring. I am not biased either way, black or white. I don't really care. Here in Finland race is not much of an issue. How about you people bother responding to my arguments, rather than spout out this meaningless race bullshit. Makes me feel like you two can't really refute those arguments.

You believe Marciano was athletically inferior because he was white. There's no point for me to argue with a racist like you. The Manchine is a self hating whiteboy from Finland, he seems to always bash white fighters....He claims to be a Klitschko fan, but he bashes Wlad and Vitali all the time...The Manchine is a white honky hater that nuthugs black fighters.

You believe Marciano was athletically inferior because he was white. There's no point for me to argue with a racist like you. There's no point for you to argue with me because I am right, not because Marciano's white... yeah. I try to look at fighters resume's objectively. At no point have I said that Marciano was athletically inferior because he was white, this is a man whom I rate as one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. I have no double standards. If I rate Walcott, Moore, Charles and Louis great wins for Marciano, then I would have to rate Liston, Patterson and the other not so prime heavyweights Ali beat great wins as well. Solid logic there. Ali also beat a whole bunch of great, prime heavyweights as well.

Or maybe it's because Charles had already been knocked the F*** out by Jersey Joe Walcott and decisioned by him (and this was a man who Charles had already defeated many times before). After those losses to Walcott, Charles went on to lose to Valdes (who Marciano never fought) and Harold Johnson. Charles bounced back with a KO win over the glass-chinned Bob Satterfield, then he fought Rocky. Charles came to that fight against Rocky with a hundred fights behind him, many KO losses, many wars, many championships... No need to explain, posters (like me) who has been around the sport understand where you are coming from. The Tunny poster is probably one of those posters that even though you explain to them in detail, they will immediately deny what we say and counter back with nonsense. Ezzard Charles was also past his weight when he fought Marciano. He is a natural light heavyweight when he was in his true prime. Not to take anything from Rocky but all of those top fighters that he beat were mainly past their prime. Archie Moore was a long reigning light heavyweight champion and didn't get a shot at a heavyweight title until he was old. I would pick a few fighters that were not even great over Marciano. (no disrespect) Chris Byrd would have a shot at out boxing him and Riddock Bowe would also have a good shot.

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It interesting how you Ali nuthuggers always say Charles was past prime when Marciano defeated him twice, even though they were both the same age. Of course, to discredit Marciano, you'll say age doesn't have anything to do with past prime, and he must have been past prime if Marciano beat him! Actually he wasn't - you just believe that because you're prejudiced against white boxers. Charles may have been somewhat after the two beatings he took from Rocky. Or maybe it's because Charles had already been knocked the F*** out by Jersey Joe Walcott and decisioned by him (and this was a man who Charles had already defeated many times before). After those losses to Walcott, Charles went on to lose to Valdes (who Marciano never fought) and Harold Johnson. Charles bounced back with a KO win over the glass-chinned Bob Satterfield, then he fought Rocky. After the losses to Rocky, he went on to lose 14 fights. Charles came to that fight against Rocky with a hundred fights behind him, many KO losses, many wars, many championships... a whole 14 year career. Marciano had fought for 7 years, and retired after 8 years in the boxing business (due to his extremely physical style). It doesn't always have got something to do with race, Tunney. If you read my post, you would realize that I did call those wins over Moore and Liston, wins over past prime fighters. I also called those wins over Walcott, Louis and Charles, wins over past prime fighters. I have no double standards. Many of his biggest wins were over past prime fighters yes, but so were many of the biggest wins for other top heavyweights. This part you see.

Then who was? Louis? no wait Johnson was better, but how about Ali????? no no no, Marciano baby, fuck a doodle, but Foreman did and ???????? If you say Tyson wasnt even close.........youre retarded. you actually think with a straight face that tyson was a top 5 all time great? you've got to be kidding me

That's not how things work around here. If someone like WLAD OWNS is going to make statements like "Wlad is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time", then he's gona have to deal with the consequences. I'm a huge Tyson fan, but even I'll admit he wasn't even close to being the greatest. We have to be realistic no matter how big of a fan we are. Shut your mouth boy, I never said "Wlad is one of the greatest heavyweights of all time"...But I believe when Wlad's career is all said and done, he will go down as one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, he is an amazing talent and he is pretty much unstoppable right now...You and your fellow Klitschko haters can go fuck yourselves.

Muhammed Ali was the most overrated and overhyped boxer of all time, and anyone who thinks he was the greatest heavyweight is delusional. He kept saying he was the greatest so many time that a few fools are dumb enough to believe it. He lost 2 of 3 to both Norton and Frazier, although the judges robbed each of them of one of their two wins. Many of his biggest wins were over past prime fighters, like Liston, Moore and Patterson. Welcome to my sig

Overrated by some but he didn't lose 2 out of 3 to Frazier or Norton. Maybe he should have lost two to Norton (but he didn't) but definitely not to Frazier. Many of his biggest wins were over past prime fighters yes, but so were many of the biggest wins for other top heavyweights. Jeffries for Johnson, Johnson for Willard, Willard for Dempsey, Dempsey for Tunney, Max Baer for Louis, Louis, Walcott and Charles for Marciano, Moore for Patterson, Ali and Norton for Holmes, Holmes for Tyson, Tyson and Holyfield for Lewis... the list goes on. Ali fought everyone from perhaps the greatest era of heavyweights and beat everyone. Archie Moore Sonny Liston Floyd Patterson George Chuvalo Cleveland Williams Zora Folley Jerry Quarry Oscar Bonavena Jimmy Ellis Buster Mathis Mac Foster Bob Foster Ken Norton Joe Frazier George Foreman Ron Lyle Joe Bugner The rest was Ali fighting past his prime, holding on to get decisions. Sad end for a great champ, even sadder that some seem to want to remember him only for those last few years.