Sultan vs. Briggs... Boring
Sultan vs. Holyfield.. Boring
Sultan vs. Wlad... Boring
doesent matter who he fights against, its gonna be boring.
Sultan vs. Peter, Valuev, Chagaev... Boring
Wlad deserves his fair share of criticism for that fight, but hes getting 95 percent, not the fair share.
Its obvious Ibragimov is being trained by a Mayweather to fight like a Mayweather. Yeah hes a top 8 heavyweight without a doubt but put him in with any other top-8 heavyweight and you can be guaranteed the fight is going to the cards with little chance of anyone being hurt much less knocked out.
If the strongest man in prizefighting, who's probably the most skilled in the division as well, does not want to hit people, then people will react accordingly.
i think he sure as shit wants to hit people. wlad loves boxing, that much is clear, the time and effort he puts into preparation speaks for itself. nobody can put such consistent effort into something they dont enjoy doing.
i dont believe that any heavyweight would have knocked sultan out. at least not without putting themselves in serious jeopardy of having the same thing done to them. if wlad had fought the same style fight as sultan did there would not have been a single punch thrown all night. just two guys holding out their lead hand judging distance between each other
you know what? you're right hitman.
sultan's style has the base to make any matchup boring - he is a carefull, conservative, non aggressive counterpuncher. wlad was basically chasing him around the ring he whole fight and what was sultan doing? hiding in his goddamned shell of a crouch stance hoping not to get hit. it is like he was just trying to survive. maybe wladimir felt sorry for him and decided not to squash him like a bug.
It's mad difficult to take out someone who's only goal is to survive- if that fighter is skillful and tough in the first place.
But Wlad is mad gifted physically, and a clever biscuit as well.
People want the baddest man on the planet to have at least some killer instinct and mentally toughness.
If the strongest man in prizefighting, who's probably the most skilled in the division as well, does not want to hit people, then people will react accordingly.
Come on man, that was a good fight, both men knocked down twice, both men fought hard in that fight.
well you just outed yourself on that one
each guy was knocked down once in that fight
nice try though
I think that was Sultan's last big money shot. Who cares who else he can beat, because he never beat the champ, and if you can't beat the champ then what good are ya? That's they way it will be for all the contenders once Wlad gets all the titles, if he can keep them all together. One champion then the rest, like the old days.......
p.s. I do want somebody to knock out Klitchco, or at least have a knock down drag out fight with him.....there wasn't any real electricity watching that fight the other night.....not like say, a Bowe vs. Holyfield type of charge in the air of the night!
Come on man, that was a good fight, both men knocked down twice, both men fought hard in that fight.
I have no clue how you found that fight remotely exciting. lol.
You might be the only person who did.
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Sultan/Austin was a better fight then the last 5 Wlad fights combined.
If you find a total hug fest exciting then yeah probably.
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Wlad was much bigger, and much stronger, a little pressure wouldnt have hurt. It was obvious when he threw he could hit Sultan so it had nothing to do with Sultan being slick. Wlad was afraid to get countered, he said it himself so he fought scared and did what he had to do to get the easy win. Smart, maybe, but not the thing that is expected by one of the biggest and strongest heavyweight champions ever, especially against a much smaller opponent. And the slapping of Sultans hand was a joke too, hopefully he lost all of his HBO dates, i mean even Manny knew it was bad so i dont see how his fans cant see that.
*Cough* Lewis v.s. Tua *Cough*
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and, wladimir's speed was off the fucking charts. where are all the fans and pundits who said iggy was quicker and more skilled? ha!
i got a kick out of the category based analysis... honestly if youre gonna give klitschko the advantage in every single thing there is no point in doing one.
so anyone doing one had to look at it and say to themself..
"hmmmm, which category can i make some kind of logical, yet untrue, argument as to sultans superiority????"
some hard thinking and a couple cocktails and POOF! the light bulb comes on.
"yes of course... speed and quickness!!! i can say wlad is Bigger therefore he must be slower.... whew! shit i thought i was gonna have to scrap the whole thing there for a minute."
I honestly was a little surprised how bad the reaction has been. I knew people would come out torching him just because hes a polarizing figure on the board... but i watched the fight with 6 other people who arent serious boxing fans and their unbiased reaction was that it wasnt a very good fight, mostly cause of sultans style. its funny my friends really got a kick out of wlad jabbing the shit out of sultan, and the jab is usually more respected by hardcore fans than the typical guy off the street.
yeah they wanted to see the knockout, who didnt? but they werent bitching me out for wasting an hour of their lives... plus how many of the people on here crying about the fight actually had something better to do with their saturday night... maybe 10%?
spot on again.
although we are spoiled by seeing wladimir send opponents to the floor lifeless, there are some positive things we can focus on.
example - how many times have anybody here seen a boxer get beat with one punch? not to mention an undefeated champ with a good amateur profile.
and, wladimir's speed was off the fucking charts. where are all the fans and pundits who said iggy was quicker and more skilled? ha!
i forgot to add that the austin fight was boring as all hell too. ive see write ups that classified it as "exciting with both men hitting the canvas"
pure horseshit.
that fight was terrible, and a perfect example of what sultan has become was when he knocked austin down early in that fight and basically made no effort to follow up and get rid of him.
Wlad was much bigger, and much stronger, a little pressure wouldnt have hurt. It was obvious when he threw he could hit Sultan so it had nothing to do with Sultan being slick. Wlad was afraid to get countered, he said it himself so he fought scared and did what he had to do to get the easy win. Smart, maybe, but not the thing that is expected by one of the biggest and strongest heavyweight champions ever, especially against a much smaller opponent. And the slapping of Sultans hand was a joke too, hopefully he lost all of his HBO dates, i mean even Manny knew it was bad so i dont see how his fans cant see that.
I honestly was a little surprised how bad the reaction has been. I knew people would come out torching him just because hes a polarizing figure on the board... but i watched the fight with 6 other people who arent serious boxing fans and their unbiased reaction was that it wasnt a very good fight, mostly cause of sultans style. its funny my friends really got a kick out of wlad jabbing the shit out of sultan, and the jab is usually more respected by hardcore fans than the typical guy off the street.
yeah they wanted to see the knockout, who didnt? but they werent bitching me out for wasting an hour of their lives... plus how many of the people on here crying about the fight actually had something better to do with their saturday night... maybe 10%?
hey, same here, my non-boxing fan friends were having a laugh at klit's jabs landing. after the fight, we all concluded that it was mostly ibragimov's fault for the boredom.
lol it is funny how it's purely Wlad's fault.
When the WBO champ just so happened to be a boring southpaw.
He beat him with 1 arm.
Why?
He has two.
Hece boring.
you know what? you're right hitman.
sultan's style has the base to make any matchup boring - he is a carefull, conservative, non aggressive counterpuncher. wlad was basically chasing him around the ring he whole fight and what was sultan doing? hiding in his goddamned shell of a crouch stance hoping not to get hit. it is like he was just trying to survive. maybe wladimir felt sorry for him and decided not to squash him like a bug.
lol it is funny how it's purely Wlad's fault.
When the WBO champ just so happened to be a boring southpaw.
He beat him with 1 arm.
I honestly was a little surprised how bad the reaction has been. I knew people would come out torching him just because hes a polarizing figure on the board... but i watched the fight with 6 other people who arent serious boxing fans and their unbiased reaction was that it wasnt a very good fight, mostly cause of sultans style. its funny my friends really got a kick out of wlad jabbing the shit out of sultan, and the jab is usually more respected by hardcore fans than the typical guy off the street.
yeah they wanted to see the knockout, who didnt? but they werent bitching me out for wasting an hour of their lives... plus how many of the people on here crying about the fight actually had something better to do with their saturday night... maybe 10%?
lol it is funny how it's purely Wlad's fault.
When the WBO champ just so happened to be a boring southpaw.
He beat him with 1 arm.
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