I picke dthe Tua fight because this fight is one that people point to in defence of Wlad by saying that every fighter has just done enough and been boring. Plus Tua was a dangerous opponent in that he could have ko`d Lewis, Sultan isnt a knockout artist in any way shape or form yet Wlad was terrified to do anything.
In the heavyweight division, anybody can get knocked out by anybody at any given time if a punch is landed clean. This isn't the lower weight divisions, lets not forget that. These are the big boys.
Ibragimov has 22 wins, 17 by ko. This wasn't just some showcase fight for Wlad to give the american fans excitement, this was an important fight. You win and you look good next time. They're not gonna give you performances that the feather, light, jr and welterweight divisions give you....bar none. Brewster/Lyakovich and Tua/Beabudhi are exceptions to the norm. Either the knockout comes and everybody is happy or it doesn't. In this case it didn't happen.
In regards to that, Wlad is still the most exciting heavyweight out there because he is the one who basically knocks every opponent out when he fights. Today it didn't happen, fuck it, lets give the guy a break.
You have to consider that styles make fights. Tua and Ibragimov are two competely different fighters. You could compare Tua to Mike Tyson at best, a pressure fightes coming forward. Ibragimov is not that guy, he was a counter puncher waiting for Wlad to make a mistake so he can take adantage of it.
Wlad did not make any mistakes and therefore it was a boring fight. Ibragimov didn't risk anything himself which means he didn't give Wlad anything to work with either. Lets all take into consideration that Wlad has 50 wins, 45 by knockout. That's only 5 fights he went the distance. All those crazy knockouts he delivered time and time again. If there is a time to go to distance for once, it's against a no nonsense, undefeated world champion like Ibragimov.
He was nothing to play with.
I picked the Tua fight because this fight is one that people point to in defence of Wlad by saying that every fighter has just done enough and been boring. Plus Tua was a dangerous opponent in that he could have ko`d Lewis, Sultan isnt a knockout artist in any way shape or form yet Wlad was terrified to do anything.
dude,,youre a moron. what fighter hasnt been able to get a right hand off on a conventional plodder like tua. try a counter punching southpaw that moves and its another story. this has to be the most moronic thread Ive ever seen
yeah he is really plodding in the first minute of the fight where Lewis throws more rights than wlad did in 12 rounds, oh and wash your mouth out and find some manners please, this is a discussion not name calling in a school yard !
well actually within the first minute of the video was all round one so lets say at least Lewis threw more rights in 1 round then wlad in 12. Lewis started off that fight by making his mark on Tua by letting him taste the right hand several times, Wlad didnt throw it until around the 5th round and certainly wasnt as adventurous, he took no risks at all whereas Lewis did in the beginning of that fight by throwing the right and just evading Tua`s left.
You have to consider that styles make fights. Tua and Ibragimov are two competely different fighters. You could compare Tua to Mike Tyson at best, a pressure fighter coming forward who you can work off. Ibragimov is not that guy, he was a counter puncher waiting for Wlad to make a mistake so he can take adantage of it.
Wlad did not make any mistakes and therefore it was a boring fight. Ibragimov didn't risk anything himself which means he didn't give Wlad anything to work with either. Lets all take into consideration that Wlad has 50 wins, 45 by knockout. That's only 5 fights he went the distance. All those crazy knockouts he delivered time and time again. If there is a time to go to distance for once, it's against a no nonsense, undefeated world champion like Ibragimov.
He was nothing to play with.
Lewis threw more righthands in the first minute than Wlad did in 12 rounds tonight!
dude,,youre a moron. what fighter hasnt been able to get a right hand off on a conventional plodder like tua. try a counter punching southpaw that moves and its another story. this has to be the most moronic thread Ive ever seen
In case you didn't notice, those were highlights of the entire 12 round fight. Lewis DID NOT actually throw that many punches in one minute dipshit, it was a compiled video like the Contender fights on Espn.well actually within the first minute of the video was all from round one so lets say at least that Lewis threw more rights in the first minute of that fight than wlad did in 12 rounds. Lewis started off that fight by making his mark on Tua by letting him taste the right hand several times, Wlad didnt throw it until around the 5th round and certainly wasnt as adventurous, he took no risks at all whereas Lewis did in the beginning of that fight by throwing the right and just evading Tua`s left.
Lewis threw more righthands in the first minute than Wlad did in 12 rounds tonight!
In case you didn't notice, those were highlights of the entire 12 round fight. Lewis DID NOT actually throw that many punches in one minute dipshit, it was a compiled video like the Contender fights on Espn.
There is a major disparity comparing Wlad to Kimbo as to Wlad to Lewis. You know better then that comparing a street tough guy who beats up on obese guys for a living with Wlad. And Wlad has beaten plenty of good opponents, there just isn't anything great on the horizon. No Holyfields, Bowe's or Tyson's around.
As I've said, it will take years for Wlad to climb up that ladder as an all-time great. He has 50 wins right now, if he keeps fighting for another 8 or 9 years and keeps winning who knows.
As far as heart, Wlad made up for that in his Peter victory. His heart shouldn't be anymore in question then Lewis's.
exactly this is my point......in that case i guess "he is the best"
lewis had heart, and way better jab and fought better opponents,
same trainer doesn't mean anynthing, they different fighters,
if emmanuel decides to train kimbo slice will you compare him to wlad?
There is a major disparity comparing Wlad to Kimbo as to Wlad to Lewis. You know better then that comparing a street tough guy who beats up on obese guys for a living with Wlad. And Wlad has beaten plenty of good opponents, there just isn't anything great on the horizon. No Holyfields, Bowe's or Tyson's around.
As I've said, it will take years for Wlad to climb up that ladder as an all-time great. He has 50 wins right now, if he keeps fighting for another 8 or 9 years and keeps winning who knows.
As far as heart, Wlad made up for that in his Peter victory. His heart shouldn't be anymore in question then Lewis's.
And why not? Wlad is being trained by the same guy who trained him. They have similar size. They both got knocked out against guys they were never supposed to lose against.
And of course, Lewis is by far the greater fighter. He avenged both of his losses and Wlad has to give another 8 to 9 years of his life and continue winning if he wants to climb into the short list of of Top great heavyweights from different eras as Lewis is right now.
lewis had heart, and way better jab and fought better opponents,
same trainer doesn't mean anynthing, they different fighters,
if emmanuel decides to train kimbo slice will you compare him to wlad?
please dont compare lewis with wlad
And why not? Wlad is being trained by the same guy who trained him. They have similar size. They both got knocked out against guys they were never supposed to lose against.
And of course, Lewis is by far the greater fighter. He avenged both of his losses and Wlad has to give another 8 to 9 years of his life and continue winning if he wants to climb into the short list of of Top great heavyweights from different eras as Lewis is right now.