Joe Louis: America's Hero Betrayed

Joe Louis...one of the baddest of all timeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!

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It was good, but honestly guys.. haven't we heard this story told before? IMO that documentary was a fancy rehashing of a bunch of other stories on Joe. I had seen another doc on him before. It was a movie focusing on him, Dempsey, and Ali; which was good in it's own right. This one getting the HBO treatment was a lot better though, and it went into better detail of his impact on the black community. The visuals and stories of how the blacks reacted to the fights were interesting. Here it is. http://youtube.com/watch?v=HXXYT0Requ8 part 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=k43XjfYLvvk part 3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=oQ48YAzPlz0 part 4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=b1dbBKi38VE part 5 http://youtube.com/watch?v=0BwRBldSluM part 6 Thanks for posting. I've taken an interest to Liston recently as the avatar shows.

Just saw it now, powerful film indeed. I had seen a doc on Louis before, so I wasn't expecting to learn anything new, but I did. I had no idea he was the first black man to participate in a PGA event. And this one really went into detail about how much of an impact he had. Gripping stuff...You cant help but feel for what happened to the guy. And the footage of Ali calling him an Uncle Tom. The hell was that all about?

Yeah I was curious to see if they would mention this as well. I saw that in one of the deleted scenes of American Gangster that Lucas gave Joe $50,000 to pay toward his tax debt, I wonder if its true? That is the way I understand it.

wonder if they talk about his friendship with Frank Lucas. Yeah I was curious to see if they would mention this as well. I saw that in one of the deleted scenes of American Gangster that Lucas gave Joe $50,000 to pay toward his tax debt, I wonder if its true?

any way i could see this Liston Doc? Here it is. http://youtube.com/watch?v=HXXYT0Requ8 part 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=k43XjfYLvvk part 3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=oQ48YAzPlz0 part 4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=b1dbBKi38VE part 5 http://youtube.com/watch?v=0BwRBldSluM part 6

any way i could see this Liston Doc? I don't have a copy of it if that's what you're asking. You might want to take a look at eBay or other internet options.

I also liked the Liston doc better because I learned more about that person. Also I thought the fight clips on the Louis special were too sparse. It was a lot more about Louis the man instead of Louis the fighter. any way i could see this Liston Doc?

I liked the Liston one better. This Louis was well-done, but it really didn't tell me anything new or unexpected. I also liked the Liston doc better because I learned more about that person. Also I thought the fight clips on the Louis special were too sparse. It was a lot more about Louis the man instead of Louis the fighter.

The Income Tax is unconstitutional Ron Paul is a racist..

The Income Tax is unconstitutional

Schmeling wasn't a Nazi, the guy in the document (who said something like "America helped a Nazi to become a millionaire but taxed Joe Louis millions of dollars") just wanted to make Schmeling look like one to make it more dramatic. Don't let facts get in the way of a good story. I noticed that - misleading, if not inaccurate. And they didn't have to skew things to praise Louis, either...

Wow!! I'm almost halfway through it now, and I'm wondering, why was the United States government so f***ed up to Joe Louis??? THEY TAXED THE MAN 90% of his income, such greed and it's so disgusting how society could be so unhuman to a man so great. It's not like Joe Louis got such in debt from partying like most stars do, but he did things like pay for his fellow soldiers buses, etc. Such a sad story, all he ever tried to do was good, joining the Army, etc. And all he got was shit for it. Even from Muhammad Ali! It's a damn shame.

I've always known about the speculation surrounding Louis' death(involvement with the mafia, and drug-dealers, etc). I was glad to see that HBO didn't add any of that to the documentary. Kudos. On the other hand, I never knew that Schmeling got the soda endorsement and became super rich off of it. While the African-American man was left with nothing, after supporting his country in war and in the ring. You'd think that the white powers that be(Owners of Coca Cola) back then, would have had the decency to offer the opportunity to Louis but, no they gave it to an Enemy of the State, in Schmeling. We were at war with Germany and they put money in a German mans pocket simply because he was white. Un-fcking believable!!! I almost fell out of my bed listening to that shit last night!!!! And people wonder why African-Americans are angry. Shit like this is why. Louis deserved to be treated fairly by his country and they shitted on him, like they've shitted on African-Amercans for centuries. Dam shame. All men are created equal? Not in America

Schmeling's trainer was jewish. I actually feel that Max Schmeling is a tragic character as well.. he was basically used and thrown away like a utensil for the Nazi regime. Idk if he his trainer was jewish but his manager, jacobs, was.

It was, but Max's late life had a much happier ending than Louis. Max got rich from the soda endorsements and lived to nearly 100. Yea if u watch HBO's 2005 year in review, they show a bunch of fighters that died that year and Max was one of them Unbelievable. Nobody lives to 100, especially not fighters!

Schmeling was not a Nazi. He had a Jewish manager. But Hitler invited him to dine with him. What was he supposed to do, turn him down? Yea he wasnt a nazi. But he did more then just dine with Hitler and was to the German war effort what Louis was the American war effort. He did help some jews escape the nazis though, and hid a few jewish friends in his home.

can someone pm me a link or post a link to the HBO doc. if it's been posted? I no longer have HBO :(

Here is the HBO made Sonny Liston document.