I've had a look at the quality of opposition for all the world ranked Frank Warren fighters that I could think of, adding up all their opponents records (won-lost-drawn-winning %)
Joe Calzaghe (935-285-26) 75%
Alex Arthur (443-183-13) 69%
Danny Williams (674-281-32) 68%
Matt Skelton (402-176-18) 67%
Amir Khan (269-117-14) 67%
Scott Harrison (752-350-40) 66%
Ricky Hatton (822-382-63) 65%
Michael Sprott (546-269-35) 64%
Graham Earl (340-222-25) 58%
Enzo Macc (518-426-60) 52%
Kevin Mitchell (273-266-24) 48%
Gavin Rees (351-732-45) 31%
TOTAL (6325-3689-395) 61%
Now compare that to some other british fighers:
David Haye (468-212-39) 65%
Howard Eastman (783-391-51) 64%
Clinton Woods (732-377-55) 63%
Nicky Cook (519-331-28) 59%
Junior Witter (635-405-46) 58%
Carl Froch (346-258-28) 55%
TOTAL (3483-1974-247) 61%
And then to some other random world fighters:
Oscar De La H' (1468-116-43) 90%
Kostya Tszyu (1107-132-28) 87%
Floyd Mayweath' (1008-181-43) 82%
Bernard Hopkins (1123-265-23) 80%
Paulie Maligna' (328-86-19) 76%
Mikkel Kessler (889-260-31) 75%
Ruslan Chagaev (520-275-15) 64%
Kelly Pavlik (519-279-34) 62%
Ricardo Torres (194-170-7) 52%
Chad Dawson (361-416-23) 45%
Would also be interested to know if anyone can find:
1. A current reigning world champion who has faced worse opposition than Gavin Rees
2. Any world title winning boxer with a better level of opposition than Oscar De La Hoya
I'm gonna need Tipton to clarify, but i have RJJ's opposition as 1420-260-39, which gives 83%?
Give me a heads up if my stats are wrong, but if 83% is right, then i don't think its too bad is it!?
No it isnt bad... people just like to find SOMETHING to discredit someone whose broken records in the game... its a better percentage than every person listed on the front page against DLH
I'm gonna need Tipton to clarify, but i have RJJ's opposition as 1420-260-39, which gives 83%?
Give me a heads up if my stats are wrong, but if 83% is right, then i don't think its too bad is it!?
Roy Jones was so much better than everyone.
All his fights were like watching that irritating mid 90's Man Utd team playing Swindon every week. He was the Roger Federer of Boxing. He could have fought some of those guys on the same night
It is still pretty bad, most of those people were unknowns and still are. Hardly makes him look much better in all honesty.
his oponents average percentage is 25-4 which is equivelent to floyds.. and a lot of them were prevous champions or went on to win a title... hate all u want, it is what it is he started out at 154 and went all the way to heavyweight.. and then back down..
Whats Roy Jones opponents win % after Toney he made Joe Louis bum of the month club all seem elite.
Larry Merchant on Jones v Tarver:
Now that Jones has finished with part time teachers and refuge collectors can he still carry that level?
After Toney? Lets see here
Lucas - 19-2
Brannon - 16-0
Mccalum - 49-3
Griffin - 26-0 and then 27-0
Hill - 43-2
DelValle - 27-1
Grant - 31-1
Telesco - 23-2
Hall - 24-1
Harding - 19-0
Harmon - 20-1
Gonzalez - 27-0
Kelly - 28-0
Woods - 32-1
Tarver - 21-1
Badi - 25-2
Hanshaw - 21-0
Trinidad - 42-2
Before Toney?
Thomas - 24-0
Wolfe - 28-3
Hopkins - 22-1
Tate - 29-2
Toney - 44-0
HARDLY... what u make it out to be
I've had a look at the quality of opposition for all the world ranked Frank Warren fighters that I could think of, adding up all their opponents records (won-lost-drawn-winning %)
Joe Calzaghe (935-285-26) 75%
Alex Arthur (443-183-13) 69%
Danny Williams (674-281-32) 68%
Matt Skelton (402-176-18) 67%
Amir Khan (269-117-14) 67%
Scott Harrison (752-350-40) 66%
Ricky Hatton (822-382-63) 65%
Michael Sprott (546-269-35) 64%
Graham Earl (340-222-25) 58%
Enzo Macc (518-426-60) 52%
Kevin Mitchell (273-266-24) 48%
Gavin Rees (351-732-45) 31%
TOTAL (6325-3689-395) 61%
Now compare that to some other british fighers:
David Haye (468-212-39) 65%
Howard Eastman (783-391-51) 64%
Clinton Woods (732-377-55) 63%
Nicky Cook (519-331-28) 59%
Junior Witter (635-405-46) 58%
Carl Froch (346-258-28) 55%
TOTAL (3483-1974-247) 61%
And then to some other random world fighters:
Oscar De La H' (1468-116-43) 90%
Kostya Tszyu (1107-132-28) 87%
Floyd Mayweath' (1008-181-43) 82%
Bernard Hopkins (1123-265-23) 80%
Paulie Maligna' (328-86-19) 76%
Mikkel Kessler (889-260-31) 75%
Ruslan Chagaev (520-275-15) 64%
Kelly Pavlik (519-279-34) 62%
Ricardo Torres (194-170-7) 52%
Chad Dawson (361-416-23) 45%
Would also be interested to know if anyone can find:
1. A current reigning world champion who has faced worse opposition than Gavin Rees
2. Any world title winning boxer with a better level of opposition than Oscar De La Hoya
How did you do those calculations: Did you count the draws as well? For instance when I took their (wins-losses-draws)/wins=% I get different numbers than what you posted up. Like Mayweather dropped down to 78%
definitely makes you look at chad dawson a little different now.. considering his opposition
True. He's wanted those better fights, but has had to settle for lesser opposition. His skills are good for sure, but your right you have to question how good he is maybe just a little bit by looking at those numbers.
Come on people, you all know Chad would destroy Calzaghe, Hopkins, Kessler and Pavlik, all during the same night.
Dawson defended his WBC title against Jesus Ruiz, one of the weakest title contenders ever and Epifanio Mendoza, a guy who hasn't beaten anyone with a positive record.
Adamek was undefeated in 31 fights so Chad deserves credit for that win.
Fighting Glen Johnson will be a step up though Glen is 40 years old and won't help much with Chad's opponents overall win-loss records.
damn.........Oscar is out on his own.
Rees is possibly the champ with the weakest comp that I have ever known. His bout against M'Baye was a random surprise, when he won it was a serious shock. Not only has he faced weak competition, but he should at least be a lightweight if not a super featherweight, dude is what 5'4. Jesus Christ. Fair play to him though. Didn't he have a great amateur pedigree?
That's why i don't get why people hate on himm so much. It's just stupid......
Oscar De La H' (1468-116-43) 90%
damn.........Oscar is out on his own.
Rees is possibly the champ with the weakest comp that I have ever known. His bout against M'Baye was a random surprise, when he won it was a serious shock. Not only has he faced weak competition, but he should at least be a lightweight if not a super featherweight, dude is what 5'4. Jesus Christ. Fair play to him though. Didn't he have a great amateur pedigree?