i dont understand this, true Mayweather should not fight DLH but come on, it seems to be ok that Cotto is fighting fight that means nothing to win. who is Gomez? why does he get a shot, now people are gonna be hyping cotto more, "did u see how he destroyed gomez...." come on . Mayweather has so many Haters its ridiculous. I would rather see Cotto fight Berto than Gomez. Now cotto has 2 wins against past prime fighters and a Contender contestant with like 4 loses.
Don't forget about Felix Sturm. No way in hell Oscar deserved more than a draw in that fight.
the normal rebuttal to all of this by the Floyd stans is bringing up all his PAST achievements as if the same Oscar who achieved all of that is the same one that stepped into the ring with Mayweather.
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum, homay put em down. anyway, i LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE how Shane Mosley is considered "past his prime" when he won his last 4 prior to fight Cotto yet, Oscar De La Hoya wasnt past his prime even though he had lost 2 of his last 4! one by KO and one to SHANE MOSLEY!! HE LOST 2 FIGHTS TO SHANE MOSLEY! WTF? can the bullshit smell any more worse?
Don't forget about Felix Sturm. No way in hell Oscar deserved more than a draw in that fight.
mayweather is all about him knowing he can win,
he probably just fight rematches until he really retires,
judah,hatton,baldomir and maybe mosley for his last fight
The difference between Cotto-Gomez and De La Hoya-Mayweather II is simple. One is nothing more than a tune up fight, being a prelude to a unification match. The other is a meaningless fight that will be hyped to no end as a "Major fight." If you can't see the difference between the two, then there's really no discussing this any further.
But it's funny you dismiss Cotto's wins over Judah and Mosley as wins over fighters past their primes. Yet, only a year prior Judah arguably won 3 of the first 4 rounds against Mayweather, unofficially dropped him in the second, rocked him in the 4th, and picked up round 12. While Shane Mosley was coming off wins against Estrada, Cruz, Vargas (2x), and Collazo compared to Oscar's KO of Mayorga. De La Hoya had fought 6 rounds in nearly 3 years and was one fight removed from being KO'd. How easily they forget.
Floydboyz just got :owned:
in all honesty, u can't get pissed at cotto for fighting gomez.. cotto doesn't pick his opponents, he's really not a businessman, he just fights whoever they tell him to.. mayweather can fight who he wants, and if mayweather would've chosen to fight cotto, then i imagine they would've fought.. mayweather wanted another big payday, u can't really blame him though, it's a dangerous sport, and they all wanna make a lot of money
The difference between Cotto-Gomez and De La Hoya-Mayweather II is simple. One is nothing more than a tune up fight, being a prelude to a unification match. The other is a meaningless fight that will be hyped to no end as a "Major fight." If you can't see the difference between the two, then there's really no discussing this any further.
But it's funny you dismiss Cotto's wins over Judah and Mosley as wins over fighters past their primes. Yet, only a year prior Judah arguably won 3 of the first 4 rounds against Mayweather, unofficially dropped him in the second, rocked him in the 4th, and picked up round 12. While Shane Mosley was coming off wins against Estrada, Cruz, Vargas (2x), and Collazo compared to Oscar's KO of Mayorga. De La Hoya had fought 6 rounds in nearly 3 years and was one fight removed from being KO'd. How easily they forget.
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum, homay put em down. anyway, i LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE how Shane Mosley is considered "past his prime" when he won his last 4 prior to fight Cotto yet, Oscar De La Hoya wasnt past his prime even though he had lost 2 of his last 4! one by KO and one to SHANE MOSLEY!! HE LOST 2 FIGHTS TO SHANE MOSLEY! WTF? can the bullshit smell any more worse?
What everybody needs to do is shut the hell up. Ya'll talk like you heard telephone conversations between the two camps. You guys don't know whats going on behind closed doors so why make shit up?
Indeed, indeed!!!!
i dont understand this, true Mayweather should not fight DLH but come on, it seems to be ok that Cotto is fighting fight that means nothing to win. who is Gomez? why does he get a shot, now people are gonna be hyping cotto more, "did u see how he destroyed gomez...." come on . Mayweather has so many Haters its ridiculous. I would rather see Cotto fight Berto than Gomez. Now cotto has 2 wins against past prime fighters and a Contender contestant with like 4 loses.
The difference between Cotto-Gomez and De La Hoya-Mayweather II is simple. One is nothing more than a tune up fight, being a prelude to a unification match. The other is a meaningless fight that will be hyped to no end as a "Major fight." If you can't see the difference between the two, then there's really no discussing this any further.
But it's funny you dismiss Cotto's wins over Judah and Mosley as wins over fighters past their primes. Yet, only a year prior Judah arguably won 3 of the first 4 rounds against Mayweather, unofficially dropped him in the second, rocked him in the 4th, and picked up round 12. While Shane Mosley was coming off wins against Estrada, Cruz, Vargas (2x), and Collazo compared to Oscar's KO of Mayorga. De La Hoya had fought 6 rounds in nearly 3 years and was one fight removed from being KO'd. How easily they forget.
1. You honestly think it could get any more boring in the second fight?
2.It's free because Cotto is following Cliche and fighting a "CONTENDER" That and his PPV numbers with Mosley were shit.
3.This De La Hoya would still knock Gomez out
4.Why because you say so?
5.Cotto would have fought De La Hoya like his team said they were going to
P.S. You do realize all that Gayweather shit makes you look like a pussy ass child right? Grow up
No one gives a fuck about whats admirable in your eyes! The fact is Cotto is fighting Gomez. Floyd is fighting Oscar. Floyd is going to make alot more money & get alot more recognition from the mainstream media for beating Oscar twice. Chances are Floyd will continue to fight & add to his already impressive boxing resume.
All you can do is watch & talk shit & call people names over the internet.
Alright, put it this way...
We can compare what they are going to do in 2008 to see which one is worse.
Cotto is using Gomez as a tune-up for Margarito, and then might possibly be fighting Mayorga.
Floyd is... fighting Oscar.
Now, which is more impressive? Beating a guy that was already beaten, or beating a solid journeyman on the cusp of becoming a contender, a former longtime champ and a man coming down from 168?
I'll have to say that Cotto definately gets a pass because of what else he has lined up for the year.
wow.. your a dumb motha.. you forget that Mayweather had a 6 year head start to Cotto and that Cotto has only been fighting since about 2000 so of course he will have more fights you douche! Haterfree.. haha calling me a hater when your one yourself!
AGAIN, COTTO IS ONLY FIGHTING GOMEZ AS A TUNE UP AS HE WANTS TO FIGHT 4 OR 5 TIMES THIS YEAR.. THAT'S ADMIRABLE IN MY EYES THAT A FIGHTER WOULD WANT TO FIGHT SO MANY TIMES IN ONE YEAR IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
No one gives a fuck about whats admirable in your eyes! The fact is Cotto is fighting Gomez. Floyd is fighting Oscar. Floyd is going to make alot more money & get alot more recognition from the mainstream media for beating Oscar twice. Chances are Floyd will continue to fight & add to his already impressive boxing resume.
All you can do is watch & talk shit & call people names over the internet.
he's only fighting gomez because ODH and Mayweather won't fight him and there is not enough money for a fight with KC or AM. Berto's handlers won't let him in the same area code as Cotto
What everybody needs to do is shut the hell up. Ya'll talk like you heard telephone conversations between the two camps. You guys don't know whats going on behind closed doors so why make shit up?
Floyd fans: Make all the arguments you want about how close the fight was, and Oscar is good, etc. etc. None of that makes it even close to true that Cotto is the much more meaningful fight right now.
Also, Cotto gets a pass because it is a tune-up for Margarito. If Cotto was fighting Gomez just because with no follow up fight in mind, then I would be criticizing him, but since it is a tune-up, it's okay in my book.
Why do you keep bringing up Gomez? WHAT PART OF GOMEZ BEING A TUNE UP DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? Are you stupid or something?
No I don't think gomez could beat DLH. DLH is a middleweight praying on welters.. thus the reason why many couldn't beat him, because of his size.
There are a few who could though including Cotto and I will even go as bold as to say Williams.. even after the lose to Quintana!
Doesn't change the fact that he is still washed up though.
What about Baldomir? He's a journey man with more then 13 losses on his record.
And who said I was trying to discredit Mayweather??
I am simply pointing out the fact that y'all act like his shit doesn't stink, hold him on a high cloud and think he is undefeatable or could never possibly be beaten. You guys act like he is the second coming of Jesus and could walk on water..
What I am saying is that Cotto has a legit chance at beating him and if it happened I wouldn't be surprised at all.. Who knows, maybe some of the other welters could do it too if given the chance.. but they won't why???
because again...
FLOYD IS AFRAID TO LOSE HIS 0
I'm through talking with idiots though and it's getting late..
you should dunce yourself and go sit in the corner :dunce:
Floyd is "afraid" to lose his 0, yet he's fighting a guy you say that can beat most welters and is a middleweight praying on welters. If Floyd is fighting a guy like that how does that make Floyd afraid? your whole argument doesnt even make sense. bottom line is, their last fight was close (a split decision), and everybody agrees if Oscar wouldve jabbed more, he wouldve won, now with that said, a rematch makes perfect sense.
Are you telling me that Oscar cant beat Gomez right now? What happened to the good old days? After Floyd beat the undefeated & recognized P4P #8 fighter Hatton, Oscar, & Baldomir for the REAL WW title in a 13 month span with previous victories over Judah, Mitchell, & Gatti. Most reasonable people are not trying to discredit the guy anymore.
But you still have some haters that wont let go.
Why do you keep bringing up Gomez? WHAT PART OF GOMEZ BEING A TUNE UP DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND? Are you stupid or something?
No I don't think gomez could beat DLH. DLH is a middleweight praying on welters.. thus the reason why many couldn't beat him, because of his size.
There are a few who could though including Cotto and I will even go as bold as to say Williams.. even after the lose to Quintana!
Doesn't change the fact that he is still washed up though.
What about Baldomir? He's a journey man with more then 13 losses on his record.
And who said I was trying to discredit Mayweather??
I am simply pointing out the fact that y'all act like his shit doesn't stink, hold him on a high cloud and think he is undefeatable or could never possibly be beaten. You guys act like he is the second coming of Jesus and could walk on water..
What I am saying is that Cotto has a legit chance at beating him and if it happened I wouldn't be surprised at all.. Who knows, maybe some of the other welters could do it too if given the chance.. but they won't why???
because again...
FLOYD IS AFRAID TO LOSE HIS 0
I'm through talking with idiots though and it's getting late..
you should dunce yourself and go sit in the corner :dunce:
How can you say Floyd clearly beat Oscar when the fight was a split decision win for Floyd? With many in the crowd yelling BULLSHIT after the decision was announced! The fact is beating Oscar decisively in the 2nd fight does alot more for Floyd when his career is all said & done. Why do people take Floyd so serious when he claims to be the greatest of all time?
So how did you score that fight? Mayweather clearly won, people wanted DLH to win, that's why they were chanting bullshit.
I'm not knocking Cotto because he came off of a tough schedule last year and is going to have tough schedule after fighting Gomez, of course Gomez is not going to beat DLH but Gomez is meant to be a tune up opponent to bigger fights in the future whereas Mayweather is just going to fight a guy he already beat clearly once and is doing it only for the money and after that, he's going to proclaim himself the greatest of all time and retire again until he comes back and gives Hatton a rematch, he's not fighting anyone that even has a chance of beating him, whereas Cotto at least is willing to put his record on the line against much more dangerous opposition.
How can you say Floyd clearly beat Oscar when the fight was a split decision win for Floyd? With many in the crowd yelling BULLSHIT after the decision was announced! The fact is beating Oscar decisively in the 2nd fight does alot more for Floyd when his career is all said & done. Why do people take Floyd so serious when he claims to be the greatest of all time?
No but they are better wins now because of their youth and activity. De La hoya fights every two years and has lost all his major fights in the recent past.. Are you telling me De La Hoya is still in his prime and just as good as he used to be? c'mon :rolleyes:
I can't believe how many new douches this forum has gotten.. what happened to the old days??
Are you telling me that Oscar cant beat Gomez right now? What happened to the good old days? After Floyd beat the undefeated & recognized P4P #8 fighter Hatton, Oscar, & Baldomir for the REAL WW title in a 13 month span with previous victories over Judah, Mitchell, & Gatti. Most reasonable people are not trying to discredit the guy anymore.
But you still have some haters that wont let go.