Prime Joe Calzaghe vs Prime Bernard Hopkins

umm Calzaghe had a prime...hmmm..lol..just kidden...Hop wins in amateur...as a youngster..his prime..and now as he's old...Hop will show how advanced he is..and prove..Joe should've been comen to the US ta fight some real fighters...

and then he realized he would have made about $17 profit and fought someone known for a big paycheck No he agreed of the fee.... and 24 hours before the deal was made he wanted double.

Bernard for me.

Hopkins close UD

The Bernard that fought Tito Trinidad would beat Joe,he had great head movement,speed,power and knew how to win a fight no matter what,Hopkins

How many people knew Joe Calzaghe 3 years ago? :ugh: ...the fuck outta here man. BHop beat De la Hoya & Trinidad in their primes (both by KO btw). Just like Paul Williams, everyone was quick to jump on the bus until a huge speed bump got in the way and ended the ride (...and I'm still looking for all the Williams fans here who said he'd beat Cotto & Mayweather...LMAO) BHop > Calzaghe. It'll be a good fight cause Calzaghe will press him a little. But BHop will fight his fight and frustrate Calzaghe. He comes at weird angles and lands those flush right hooks. Again Im not discrediting Calzaghe. He's a champion for a reason. But how are people totally throwing away the chance that BHop can outclass Calzaghe? Like Bernard hasn't beaten anyone worth mentioning?? Look at Bernard's list of opponents in the past 3 years and look at Calzaghe's and see whose had the better oppositions.

yeah cuz no one knew who the fuck calzaghe was Well hopkins agreed to the fight initially.

It's a 50-50 fight to me. Hopkins was very good in his prime but Calzaghe's style will always give him trouble, I can't pick a clear winner prime for prime.

exactly especially as Joe wasn't well known in the states. No wonder, he didn't fight in the US. I'm not terrible impressed with Calzaghe. His best win might be Kessler, a fighter I don't view as terrible great. I won't say anything stupid about Calzaghe, as he's a good champion with a fighter's heart and is gifted with fast hands and a good head. But still, I feel he's overrated. The man is flawed, which I believe fighters of Hopkins' calibre in his prime would take advantage of. Like I said, I would expect the fight to be very close. Joe is no stupid journeyman, has fast hands, a good chin, tremendous heart and a high workrate. I can understand a reluctance from Hopkins to travel to Britain to fight somebody no one knew who was, and a bigger man at that. The way I see it, Joe should have fought some in the U.S to make a name for himself were it matters, and thus making his challenges legit. It's not ducking or avoiding or shit like that. Calzaghe didn't exactly go out of his way to fight Hopkins either...

I think Hopkins might take it but their fight could change my mind, depends on how they look like. Calzaghe will probably take it right now. 1993 1996 1997 2001 2006 Longevity ftw.

b-hop no doubt. he was just the better fighter all round

He didn't want another L. exactly especially as Joe wasn't well known in the states.

Roy beat the balls off of nard and I think Joe gives Roy some trouble. I say Joe...

What reason was that? He didn't want another L.

What reason was that?

Prime Bernard ducked Calzaghe for a reason......

I think, even though Bernard may be more technically sound in his prime than Joe that Joe's jab would be too much for him. When Joe gets his jab going it is very hard to sustain any sort of pressure on him because it is so fast. I think Joe's jab would be the key in this fight. That is a possible scenario, though I don't think it's very likely. A jab isn't really that hard to nullify if you know how to do it, especially on people who's not taller than you. Hopkins stands wide with his feet, leaning on his backfoot to create what we call fake distance between himself and the prey. When you do this, you move your head far enough back to get it out of range of a punch. All you have to do to be in range yourself is to put your weight back over the front foot, and you will have gained a foot in fake distance. Hopkins does this all the time, catching people off guard. He's also good to lead with a straight right, which is a good counterpunch to a southpaw jab. You cannot convince me that Joe is a better jabber than Winky. His jab was a non-factor in their fight, a tactical victory important for B-Hop.

Hopkins. I think he was a beast in his prime. Perfect technique, tough as they come, smart as few and incredible adaptable. Whatever you care to mention, Bernard could do it. Infighting, outside, defence, offence- in short, Mr. Executioner was complete. However, I do think it would be very very close, where we would only get to see Bernard starting to edge ahead in the last few rounds. I don't like Calzaghe's style, but he's still a difficult man to beat. I think, even though Bernard may be more technically sound in his prime than Joe that Joe's jab would be too much for him. When Joe gets his jab going it is very hard to sustain any sort of pressure on him because it is so fast. I think Joe's jab would be the key in this fight.

Hopkins. I think he was a beast in his prime. Perfect technique, tough as they come, smart as few and incredible adaptable. Whatever you care to mention, Bernard could do it. Infighting, outside, defence, offence- in short, Mr. Executioner was complete. However, I do think it would be very very close, where we would only get to see Bernard starting to edge ahead in the last few rounds. I don't like Calzaghe's style, but he's still a difficult man to beat.

At what weight though? not convinced Hopkins can beat world class fighters that are the same size as him even in his prime. All his big wins were midgets