How about FELIX "TITO" Trinidad vs. KELLY "the GHOST" PAVLIK...

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I thought Tito showed excellent head movement in his fight with Jones and is was very difficult for Jones to land flush on him. Jones has a lot more speed than Pavlik. this would be a very interesting fight IMO and may be a lot closer than most posters here seem to think. So who you got BRO? TITO or KELLY?

I thought Tito showed excellent head movement in his fight with Jones and is was very difficult for Jones to land flush on him. Jones has a lot more speed than Pavlik. this would be a very interesting fight IMO and may be a lot closer than most posters here seem to think.

thank you homie, I appreciate the kind words. we share similar views on this issue and I do hope this fight happens so that we can have our questions answered, I'm serious when I say this WONT be no walk in the park for Pavlik, Trinidad's chin and stamina allow him to do 12 like water and his power makes him dangerous the whole way, Pavlik can fight too so this will be a good fight just don't let Trinidad land as flush and as unexpected as Taylor did, not only would he be down for 10 but he'll have a broken jaw too lolz.. 100 No problem BRO....TNX for a great contribution to the thread....

only time will tell, and i see alot of improvement for kelly if he wants it as he is only 25! if he keeps his head right he will be great! i have to say he can take as much as he gives! he stood toe to toe against miranda, and took his shots, and got a ko. he really does need to work on his d though or his career will be short! much love to tito, but he is never hitting pavlik as hard as or harder than miranda, and never beating pavlik at any weight from 160 up! at 147 i will give tito a good shot at koing anybody! I respect your thoughts on this fantasy match-up. Hope those guys up there who promote fights would see these discussions and will generate much interest for them to have this fight. DEFINITELY it will be a blockbuster...it us BOXING AFFICIONADOS who will benefit from this fight...Im just hoping that IF indeed it happens, none of those guys will get seriously hurt..TITO gave us memorable fights in our generation.PAVLIK is the FUTURE of BOXING..But I want them to get it on!!! I love both guys cause they give the fans what is due...

Good Point Bro... PAVLIK is really devastating power puncher... Question. Can he take what he can give? Can he stand up to an equally power puncher and good finisher in TITO...Its for us to find out if and that is the BIG "IF". they fight... To write off TITO is too early.. How many times in the past did the unthinkable happen.A FORMER OLD GREAT champ finding ways in winning over a "MERE CHAMP". FOREMAN did it.. so did ODLH...B-HOP...and the list goes on. Im not saying that PAVLIK is only a "MERE CHAMP". He could be great, he has all the tools. But at this early NOT JUST YET. only time will tell, and i see alot of improvement for kelly if he wants it as he is only 25! if he keeps his head right he will be great! i have to say he can take as much as he gives! he stood toe to toe against miranda, and took his shots, and got a ko. he really does need to work on his d though or his career will be short! much love to tito, but he is never hitting pavlik as hard as or harder than miranda, and never beating pavlik at any weight from 160 up! at 147 i will give tito a good shot at koing anybody!

Precisely what I've been trying to say... couldn't have said it better myself...Nice point bro..... thank you homie, I appreciate the kind words. we share similar views on this issue and I do hope this fight happens so that we can have our questions answered, I'm serious when I say this WONT be no walk in the park for Pavlik, Trinidad's chin and stamina allow him to do 12 like water and his power makes him dangerous the whole way, Pavlik can fight too so this will be a good fight just don't let Trinidad land as flush and as unexpected as Taylor did, not only would he be down for 10 but he'll have a broken jaw too lolz.. 100

yeah well pavlik has knocked out zertuche, miranda, and taylor all of which were never koed b4, and all have very good chins! pavlik knocks out almost everyone he faces, and tito woul never get past 5 rds! so u better think about all that b4 u put $ on tito! at 47 he was great, but at 160 and up he is, and was average! just the facts! Good Point Bro... PAVLIK is really devastating power puncher... Question. Can he take what he can give? Can he stand up to an equally power puncher and good finisher in TITO...Its for us to find out if and that is the BIG "IF". they fight... To write off TITO is too early.. How many times in the past did the unthinkable happen.A FORMER OLD GREAT champ finding ways in winning over a "MERE CHAMP". FOREMAN did it.. so did ODLH...B-HOP...and the list goes on. Im not saying that PAVLIK is only a "MERE CHAMP". He could be great, he has all the tools. But at this early NOT JUST YET.

How about playtex vs. kotex.

with 1 right hand pavlik lands at trinidad's precious glass jaw will put trinidad in permanent retirement. glass chin wtf???

C'mon man the guys he fought at 160 and up....WINKY= gave 2 gift shots to MOSLEY and just smiled.....B-HOP= when was the last time you saw him fell down???? JONES= although a glas chin but its obviously a mismatch... Like what Crillz said its can be a competitive fight than most of us think. yeah well pavlik has knocked out zertuche, miranda, and taylor all of which were never koed b4, and all have very good chins! pavlik knocks out almost everyone he faces, and tito woul never get past 5 rds! so u better think about all that b4 u put $ on tito! at 47 he was great, but at 160 and up he is, and was average! just the facts!

tito has shown no power at 160 and up! how are you going to compare how tito fought against a 39 yr old jones to that of fighting these young elite guys? tito has a chance to win? nah man, he has a chance to be seriously hurt! C'mon man the guys he fought at 160 and up....WINKY= gave 2 gift shots to MOSLEY and just smiled.....B-HOP= when was the last time you saw him fell down???? JONES= although a glas chin but its obviously a mismatch... Like what Crillz said its can be a competitive fight than most of us think.

Tito gets decapitated. This ain't 2001. ...............

Pavlik would get charged for murder

But he fought at a heavier weight in Jones fight, and he did look good right...I dont know.. i like Pavlik but my sentimental nod goes to TITO...it's a fight TITO has a very good chance to win...PAVLIK is a straight forward fighter who doesn't backdown. A devil may care attitude...Tailor fit for the style of TITO... I have reservations with PAVLIK's chin guys.... I know TITO might be knockdowned but history tell us he can still get up...Although PAVLIK has done it too i believe that if it was TITO who gets in the position of Taylor in the 2nd round of the TAYLOR-PAVLIK fight it will be Pavlik who gets decapitated.... Besides he's got nothing to lose and everything to win... Return to Fame and probably a gracious exit tito has shown no power at 160 and up! how are you going to compare how tito fought against a 39 yr old jones to that of fighting these young elite guys? tito has a chance to win? nah man, he has a chance to be seriously hurt!

again NOT SAYING TITO WOULD WIN just making the point that this fight could be more competitive than we think, I can see Pavlik scoring a couple knock downs due to Trinidad being off balance, we all know he has shaky legs under a strong chin which is why he can get up and shake punches off so well, even a flush temple shot from a former Heavyweight champion so you can't just say Pavlik will walk him down, Trinidad is tougher than what y'all credit him for and if he touches Pavlik's chin it wont be Jermain Taylor waisting punches it will be the best finisher of his own time licking shots at him and Tito wont waste not 1 punch.. the only mishap I can see happen is Pavlik going the defensive route and playing it safe for 12, thats the only way I see a blow out but if Kelly came to fight then my friends that will be a BIG fight..100 Precisely what I've been trying to say... couldn't have said it better myself...Nice point bro.....

Pavlik by death C'mon ya'll...how many Tito fights do you need to see that he's a finished fighter??? Nobody could knock JT down, not even Middleweight king at the time Bernard Hopkins. Pavlik went in, got knocked down bad, came back and knocked Taylor the fuck out. Once Tito feels Pavlik's 1-2, it's lights out. As far as I remember, Taylor got hit with a couple of hard shots that rocked him in the first B-Hop fight. His chin is not that outstanding compared to likes of hagler, duran etc. It was just a matter of time before a hard puncher like PAVLIK will catch up with his chin and indeed it happened. as far as PAVLIK chin is concerned, good but also not astounding.it can be hit and it will get hit, question is what if its TITO who is a very well known FINISHER who tags him with a couple of HARD SHOTS and is teeing him off. Can he stand the barage? as I said I like PAVLIK and I'm riding the PAVLIK TRAIN EXPRESS now, but I guess with TITO on the DIRECT collision, ill have to go with TITO