Oh my god... I literally feel sick.

I don't see which part of this issue some people can't get. Yes, Gerald did some horrible things. He also, according those who knew him, was capable of great warmth and generosity of character. Let's say, purely for argument's sake, that guys like DURAN_IS_GOD are right and that Gerald's current state is an act of karma. Then karma has been dealt, and by a much more righteous force than ourselves and our holier-than-thou bitching about how Gerald was such a bad person. Now that he has payed his debt to karma, why is it anybody else's duty to stand and point, laugh, hate, impart i-told-you-so denouncements, remember him only for his flaws, sweep the bravery and strength of character he showed in the ring under the carpet like it counts for nothing? Gerald was a troubled man. Growing up in abusive environment will scar you. I can testify. Witnessing the beating of your mother is a horrible thing, one which can affect different people in different ways. The violence seared into Gerald's mind as a youth was the cause of the violent tendencies he exhibited as an adolescent through to a young adult - no doubt about it. As such, I believe it only just and fair -- with all the credible testimony to his warm, human side -- that we should assume he was capable of reconciling with himself and pulling away from those bad ways had he been given the time. Whether humans are more important than animals is just a bullshit non-issue. Y'know, I love dogs, too, very much. The dog in my home is less a dog than a person, that's how much a part of the family she is. But guess what? Though my forgiveness ultimately means nothing, I still forgive the G-Man. I hope he would forgive me for standing and watching while he was experiencing a distress I can only struggle to imagine. Because, hey, I still feel a lot of guilt over that. I feel guilt for the relief I felt for Nigel when Gerald was counted out. I feel guilt for ever acknowledging it was a great fight, like that matters at all. I feel guilt simply hearing the words Benn-McClellan. God took many things from Gerald that night. But I believe He is a forgiving God, and when He next touches Gerald it will be in blessing. Be it in this life or the next. God bless you, Gerald 'G-Man' McClellan. Very respectful thoughts

I'd have to agree. Well this was just a basic streetfight, it was nothing out of the ordinary. Whoever gets the advantage makes the most of it, a typical fight, no big deal other than that guy making those squealing sounds after he got dealt with which was actually somewhat humorous considering the tough guy routine he put up moments earlier. I thought a wild boar had escaped from the zoo at that point. No offence, that guy deserved what he got, what goes around comes around. Yeah I was watching it again and he did talk about how cool it was to stab that guy and watch the blood spray all over. He was acting like a hard ass and then he basically got humbled. It reminded me of like a saturday night live skit where there pretending to beat up somebody, but it's a dummy and there doing all these crazy punches and knees. Especially that last knee that guy dropped, i mean he jumped way in the air to land it. When that guy was having trouble breathing that other guy came in and was telling him to breathe through his nose, but what made me laugh was did he actually think that guy could understand him

I don't see which part of this issue some people can't get. Yes, Gerald did some horrible things. He also, according those who knew him, was capable of great warmth and generosity of character. Let's say, purely for argument's sake, that guys like DURAN_IS_GOD are right and that Gerald's current state is an act of karma. Then karma has been dealt, and by a much more righteous force than ourselves and our holier-than-thou bitching about how Gerald was such a bad person. Now that he has payed his debt to karma, why is it anybody else's duty to stand and point, laugh, hate, impart i-told-you-so denouncements, remember him only for his flaws, sweep the bravery and strength of character he showed in the ring under the carpet like it counts for nothing? Gerald was a troubled man. Growing up in abusive environment will scar you. I can testify. Witnessing the beating of your mother is a horrible thing, one which can affect different people in different ways. The violence seared into Gerald's mind as a youth was the cause of the violent tendencies he exhibited as an adolescent through to a young adult - no doubt about it. As such, I believe it only just and fair -- with all the credible testimony to his warm, human side -- that we should assume he was capable of reconciling with himself and pulling away from those bad ways had he been given the time. Whether humans are more important than animals is just a bullshit non-issue. Y'know, I love dogs, too, very much. The dog in my home is less a dog than a person, that's how much a part of the family she is. But guess what? Though my forgiveness ultimately means nothing, I still forgive the G-Man. I hope he would forgive me for standing and watching while he was experiencing a distress I can only struggle to imagine. Because, hey, I still feel a lot of guilt over that. I feel guilt for the relief I felt for Nigel when Gerald was counted out. I feel guilt for ever acknowledging it was a great fight, like that matters at all. I feel guilt simply hearing the words Benn-McClellan. God took many things from Gerald that night. But I believe He is a forgiving God, and when He next touches Gerald it will be in blessing. Be it in this life or the next. God bless you, Gerald 'G-Man' McClellan. :hail: hulme - reading this was like rewatching Barack's commencement speech for the DNC in 04. sorry for the shameless plug.

I don't see which part of this issue some people can't get. Yes, Gerald did some horrible things. He also, according those who knew him, was capable of great warmth and generosity of character. Let's say, purely for argument's sake, that guys like DURAN_IS_GOD are right and that Gerald's current state is an act of karma. Then karma has been dealt, and by a much more righteous force than ourselves and our holier-than-thou bitching about how Gerald was such a bad person. Now that he has payed his debt to karma, why is it anybody else's duty to stand and point, laugh, hate, impart i-told-you-so denouncements, remember him only for his flaws, sweep the bravery and strength of character he showed in the ring under the carpet like it counts for nothing? Gerald was a troubled man. Growing up in abusive environment will scar you. I can testify. Witnessing the beating of your mother is a horrible thing, one which can affect different people in different ways. The violence seared into Gerald's mind as a youth was the cause of the violent tendencies he exhibited as an adolescent through to a young adult - no doubt about it. As such, I believe it only just and fair -- with all the credible testimony to his warm, human side -- that we should assume he was capable of reconciling with himself and pulling away from those bad ways had he been given the time. Whether humans are more important than animals is just a bullshit non-issue. Y'know, I love dogs, too, very much. The dog in my home is less a dog than a person, that's how much a part of the family she is. But guess what? Though my forgiveness ultimately means nothing, I still forgive the G-Man. I hope he would forgive me for standing and watching while he was experiencing a distress I can only struggle to imagine. Because, hey, I still feel a lot of guilt over that. I feel guilt for the relief I felt for Nigel when Gerald was counted out. I feel guilt for ever acknowledging it was a great fight, like that matters at all. I feel guilt simply hearing the words Benn-McClellan. God took many things from Gerald that night. But I believe He is a forgiving God, and when He next touches Gerald it will be in blessing. Be it in this life or the next. God bless you, Gerald 'G-Man' McClellan.

that idiot deserved to get kneed in the head and stamped on. Didn`t you listen to the crap he was talking before the fight? He's the idiot who agreed to fight a guy who probably outweighed him by 100lbs. Also, he couldn`t even fight, check out his stance People seem to forget about that. If you basically brag about stabbing a guy (I think thats what he did, been a while since I've seen it), then you deserve what you get. Fuck that guy.

Amen and +1 on that. I love my dog and animals in general but as the top of the food chain and the most intelligent species on the planet, I use my right to eat meat and have pets that I don't treat like other humans....... cua - has to lie within the familial structure that latinos are brought up in i surmise.

i SO feel you on this. i share your sentiment's EXACTLY on that subject, whole-heartedly. i love my dog, DEARLY - but i know that my dog is sub-human. Amen and +1 on that. I love my dog and animals in general but as the top of the food chain and the most intelligent species on the planet, I use my right to eat meat and have pets that I don't treat like other humans.......

lol sorry dude its been a long day at work!! rest, my friend, rest.

Gerald was scum and i merely pointed out that maybe karma does exist But the fact is that it doesn't because many better men have had worse fates and many worse men have had better fates. Just look at Don King who has killed men, screwed people out of their money (including McClellan) and is enjoying his life right now. :banana:

you said frankly couldn't care less ... its a double negative. it was the story of a joke that crashed and burned ..... lol sorry dude its been a long day at work!!

do care about what? you said frankly couldn't care less ... its a double negative. it was the story of a joke that crashed and burned .....

Right, you did. That post was more so directed at the people who do feel this way, because I know of some even here. So I should have said that at the end. no worries fella, like i say im sickened by the incident as much as the next guy. i was just trying to put some perspective on the situation

so, you do care. do care about what?

its nothing to do with being sentimental, i frankly couldn't care less what is said between fighters. i was merely pointing out that people seem to forget that gerald was on the whole a pretty vile person on many accounts im not one of these people who thinks that he deserves what he got, quite the opposite. he was an exciting, talented fighter who could of gone on to achieve ATG status possibly. so, you do care.

Actually, a DOZEN people would wish what happened to Gerald on others, and they are quite happy how HE is now. All because they like Dogs, because they're treehugging morons that value an animal's life over that of a human. And for your info, learn some more about the history of the sport. Gerald isn't the only one that has said nonsense like I want to kill the guy. You know what Marvin Hagler said when he knocked Hearns down? He said, if the ref allowed it to continue I would have killed Tommy. Tyson said he was gonna kill Razor Ruddock. After their fights? Hugging and no more stupid comments to sell fights. Don't be so sensitive dude. Christ. You need to see the reality of Boxing. The best Boxers in the world need the KILLER INSTINCT. Fighters have killed other fighters because of this will to win. its nothing to do with being sentimental, i frankly couldn't care less what is said between fighters. i was merely pointing out that people seem to forget that gerald was on the whole a pretty vile person on many accounts im not one of these people who thinks that he deserves what he got, quite the opposite. he was an exciting, talented fighter who could of gone on to achieve ATG status possibly.

Do you have proof? No. Did you know him? No. Did you and all these other that are happy what happened to Gman get your information from simple articles and rumours on the net? YES. Even if he did, if someone wishes this upon a human he needs to get his ass beat up real bad. I hate people that consider animals as worthy or worth even more than a human life. I can't trust people like that. I really hate treehuggers. I love animals too, but first and foremost its humans that come first to me. calm yourself down sunny. nobody has claimed (especially me) that they are happy with what has happened to G Man. so read my posts and get back to me

Do you have proof? No. Did you know him? No. Did you and all these other that are happy what happened to Gman get your information from simple articles and rumours on the net? YES. Even if he did, if someone wishes this upon a human he needs to get his ass beat up real bad. I hate people that consider animals as worthy or worth even more than a human life. I can't trust people like that. I really hate treehuggers. I love animals too, but first and foremost its humans that come first to me. i SO feel you on this. i share your sentiment's EXACTLY on that subject, whole-heartedly. i love my dog, DEARLY - but i know that my dog is sub-human.

Do you believe Michael Watson deserved to be seriously injured in the ring? Or Johnny Owen? Many boxers have been injured in the ring and none deserve it. G-Man was simply hyping his fight up. People who knew Gerald knew he was a violent man (like most boxers) but he also had a good side to him. McClellan was just like George Foreman was when he was younger. People change. read my post. i said it was a tragedy and nobody would wish what happened the gerald on anyone. However it shows the character of the man when he is talking about killing another fighter in the ring. His actions outside the ring were also disgraceful. If you think its ok to hype a fight by claiming you will kill your opponent then thats your choice, but its not mine. Gerald was scum and i merely pointed out that maybe karma does exist

With every fight there is great risk. There have been many deaths, injuries and also damages from single fights or long term damages. If people have an attitude "this fight should have been stopped early or shouldn't have happend etc" then we pretty much would cancel out all experiences. If thats the kind of mentality we have when somthing bad happens then I guess Ali should never have boxed due to his health, Watson should never have fought Eubank, Griffith should have stopped punching earlier. Shit happens. The Benn/G-Man fight played out like it did and theres no changing it so people should just look at it for what it is. i'm familiar that shit happens, i live in this world. i'm just telling you that you came across assholeish (word?) in your original reply, not much bad in that dude.

that came across SO daft. you state that as if you you're not familiar with the outcome of the fight. With every fight there is great risk. There have been many deaths, injuries and also damages from single fights or long term damages. If people have an attitude "this fight should have been stopped early or shouldn't have happend etc" then we pretty much would cancel out all experiences. If thats the kind of mentality we have when somthing bad happens then I guess Ali should never have boxed due to his health, Watson should never have fought Eubank, Griffith should have stopped punching earlier. Shit happens. The Benn/G-Man fight played out like it did and theres no changing it so people should just look at it for what it is.