Is lennox lewis a hofer? and does he deserve to be ?
Im not very sure about this but he was the last best heavywieght tbh but i duno if he deserved to be a hofer.
Rahman II, Mercer, Holyfield I, Briggs, Grant? Some good HW action there, not the tripe that's served up in this era.
didn`t you watch Chagaev vs Skelton?!
The boxing HOF does not have very high standards. Come on, guys like Johannson, Braddock, and McGuigan are in there.
Of course Lewis will make it.
i'm still waiting for guys like curry, starling, mitchell, and dejesus to get in.
i bet a bunch of less deserving guys will get in there before those guys.
This is yet another "I dont know shit about H.O.F." thread.
Just look at the hall of fame list. Its not even a queation whether Lewis deserves to there, and im not his biggest fan.
Im not sure peeps because of his style of fighting sometimes he wasnt so gd to watch so he can be underrated by alot of people because he was boring sometimes.
He also can be overrated because he beat alot of fighters past there prime and beating holyfield isnt much of a accomplishment anyways.
No, he's somewhere between 15 and 25. Remember, he was knocked out cold by a crackhead and by a B fighter.
Lewis has only 41 wins and 32 KOs (as compared to Foreman's 76 wins and 68 KOs, for example). Wlad already has 49 wins and 44 KOs. Lewis fought some good opponents, but fought his share of clubfighters too.
how many wins you have means nothing to me. Foremans notable wins are his huge win over Frazier to his first retirement. after that, its basically just Moorer, and maybe you could mention the way-past-their-best wins over Qawi and Cooney.
names are what matter, not numbers
Top 5 at Heavyweight ?? i don't think so bro.
Muhammad Ali
Joe Louis
Larry Holmes
Jack Johnson
George Foreman
I think these 5 fighters are rated above Lewis.
Jack Johnson had a shitty record compared to Lewis. George Foreman was only champion for a very short time too, but I think its alright for people to argue about him being better, cause those Frazier, Norton and Lyle fights were huge.
if youre going to throw in historical significance into the equation, a lot of fighters beat Lewis. but just record wise? Lennox kicks the shit outta Johnson
That was probably his most exciting fight.
Rahman II, Mercer, Holyfield I, Briggs, Grant? Some good HW action there, not the tripe that's served up in this era.
I have as far as i know every single lewis fight on DVD and while some of his fights are very good there are none that i would call great.
I would say the Vitali fight had about as much action and drama as you can ask for in a "super" heavyweight fight.
No, he's somewhere between 15 and 25. Remember, he was knocked out cold by a crackhead and by a B fighter.
Lewis has only 41 wins and 32 KOs (as compared to Foreman's 76 wins and 68 KOs, for example). Wlad already has 49 wins and 44 KOs. Lewis fought some good opponents, but fought his share of clubfighters too.
All those 49 wins and Chris Byrd is the best of the bunch. :banana:
It's about quality not quantity son! Not since '95 did lewis fight a poor fighter.
No, he's somewhere between 15 and 25. Remember, he was knocked out cold by a crackhead and by a B fighter.
Lewis has only 41 wins and 32 KOs (as compared to Foreman's 76 wins and 68 KOs, for example). Wlad already has 49 wins and 44 KOs. Lewis fought some good opponents, but fought his share of clubfighters too.
All those 49 wins and Chris Byrd is the best of the bunch. :banana:
Not since '95 did lewis fight a poor fighter.
Lewis was the best fighter of his generation, you could argue that he didn't fight some fighters in their primes but the facts are that he beat all of the fighters around him. That is fact.
He is the last recognised true Heavyweight Champion and is one of the greatest of all time (certainly top 10).
Therefore how can he not be in the HOF?
Yes but i still feel Lewis's record is slightly overrated, thats not his fault but still his two best were against shot fighters aka Tyson aka Holyfield, and some people think Holyfield should of won the rematch with Lewis as well, and plus lets not forget the Mercer fight a lot of people thought Mercer won that as well, and Mercer was never that good he struggled with journeyman fighters like Marion Wilson and Jesse Ferguson, i never really took to Lewis to be honest he had a few exciting performances here and there but most of his fights were boring especially the Tua and Tucker fights they sent me too sleep, if you actually study Lewis's record your find most of his wins were against past there prime fighters. The other thing with Lewis is that he lost concentration easy and thats why he was sparked out twice and thats why he was caught badly against the likes of Shannon Briggs, overall Lewis was a great Heavyweight a little too cautious for my liking but he got the wins and thats all that counts.
Holyfield was no where near winning either fight. When was Lewis hurt against Briggs? He took a couple of decent shots but nothing spectacular, and then knocked Briggs out.
Lewis' record encompasses virtually the entire heavyweight division of the 90s aside from Bowe who avoided him like the plague.
You can pull anyones record to pieces.
It was Seoul '88 that he won gold. Yeah he'll be in the Hall of Fame, undisputed champion, gave Tyson and Holyfield a spanking not to mention three times HW champion.
BTW, Duffgun, Lewis was great to watch.
i stand corrected '88
He knocked Bowe out in 84 at the olympics. Bowe didn`t want any of Lewis after that. He gave up his title so he didn`t have to fight him in the pros.
Lewis is top 5 all time for me.
It was Seoul '88 that he won gold. Yeah he'll be in the Hall of Fame, undisputed champion, gave Tyson and Holyfield a spanking not to mention three times HW champion.
BTW, Duffgun, Lewis was great to watch.
He knocked Bowe out in 84 at the olympics. Bowe didn`t want any of Lewis after that. He gave up his title so he didn`t have to fight him in the pros.
Lewis is top 5 all time for me.
He was the best in the late90's early 00's but never faced the best when they were in there primes (not his fault). To be honest though i wouldnt say he was always that great to watch.
Who Tyson? Give me a break. Tyson was lucky he was in prison during the rise of Lewis, it gives his fans a 'what if he fought him in 89-91' dream I suppose.
He fought Holyfield twice when he was in his prime and beat him comfortably both times, although we all know what happened the first time.
I agree he hasn't got boxing legends on his list but he dominated a fairly competitive HW era, a lot more competitive than the early Tyson era and the guys he fought.