Since beating Carlos Baldomir for the crown, Mayweather hasn’t defended his title/s against one single welterweight contender to date. Now he is scheduled to face Oscar in Sept. So, should he be allowed to hold on to his titles/belts as if they were superbowl rings, or should he be stripped due to the fact that he is refusing to defend them against his #1 contender, or any other WW for the matter? Vote!
Hattons not a ww. doesn't matter if he fought in that weight class against Mayweather he still itsn't a ww.
Umm but it does make a difference though. The belts at stake for Mayweathers defense against hatton were the WBC and Ring magazine WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP. Thats a fact. Now, the fact that Hatton is a natural junior welterweight is another issue, but it doesnt discount that this was a welterweight defense. We have to stick to the facts and adhere to the rules when we form our opinions. Granted, I agree that Floyd should be fighting natural WW fighters in their prime, it doesnt change the fact that he became linear WW champ when he beat Baldomir, was allowed to fight at junior middleweight against Oscar, and then came back to WW to defend against Hatton. I believe the WBC should be enforcing its mandatories upon Mayweather instead of giving him repeated extensions. And Mayweather, as a true prize fighter and champion, should be constantly seeking to fight the best. Just my 2 cents. I know boxing.
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Hattons not a ww. doesn't matter if he fought in that weight class against Mayweather he still itsn't a ww.
So Israel Vazquez is doing a disservice by fighting Rafael Marquez because Marquez was moving up?
Hopkins is disgracing the sport by fighting Calzaghe?
Roger Mayweather = fucking joke for defending his 140 title against an undefeated Julio Cesar Chavez in his first fight at 140?
Starting to figure out how ridiculous it is not to allow fighters to get title shots who are moving up?
I think any champion who goes more than 2 fights without facing the #1 contender should be stripped.
So in your world, Floyd facing and beating Cotto and Williams successively would be rightfully stripped?
You may want to rethink what you typed.
You can't really compare the others. Floyd only defended the title once and that was with Hatton. But, that does not really count, based upon the fact that Hatton didn't really belong at welterweight, what for one night...so we go back to the question. When and who did Floyd defend the title against ????? we are not speaking of no other weightclass, just welterweight...The answer is NO-ONE. Then he turns around and is getting ready to fight Ocar for another big payday. You're god-damn right they should strip him of the fuckin belt, for being a chump and a coward, and for not facing the number one contender who ever it maybe whether its Margo, Paul Williams, or Cotto. However, the WBA champ is Cotto so I believe that should make him the number one contender.
But, that puss, doesn't want no part of Cotto, Floyd does not fear none of these boxers, but, he fears the prospect of losing...That is why he will never
fight Cotto, Williams, or Margarito. All of them can hand him his first loss, and
Floyd doesn't want that. To all of the boxing fans out there, Boxing is not like
it once was 20 yrs. ago...Today anyone can just buy their way into a fight,
like Oscar. What belt does he have ??? None! He is not even in the top ten rank. And the powers that be just let him do what ever the fuck he wants, how about the other contenders ??? It is not fair to them. However, in a way,it is thier fault too, because they put up with the shit and don't open their mouths. They must protest, or even boycott his {Floyd's} fights. Cotto is a dumb-ass. If any body has the right to complain is him. They used to call it the mandatory # 1 challenger...Now it is called the one that comes with the most cheddar {$$$}...... I tell you this sport needs to clean house. Another thing, they should not allow anyone to box over the age of 40. Look at Holyfield ... he comes and goes when ever he wants, and they give him a title shot. Then they - Oscar, Arum, Don King - Have the balls to say we want to give the boxing fans what they want to see. Yeah right! MFr's, we the hard-working people, are the fools that fall for that shit. $59.95 out of our pockets. Then after the fight we go to turn off the TV and we say to ourselves, damn they got me again - that was a half-ass boxing match. I am not ordering another PPV again. That lasts until the next mainevent, Then we do it all over again and again. I don't know folks, but, something has got to give. Either we stop giving in to this boxing BS until the powers that be notice the PPV decline and put up better boxing shows or they are going to lose a lot of boxing fans. Well peeps I'm out. And remember dont talk about it,
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You can't really compare the others. Floyd only defended the title once and that was with Hatton. But, that does not really count, based upon the fact that Hatton didn't really belong at welterweight, what for one night...so we go back to the question. When and who did Floyd defend the title against ????? we are not speaking of no other weightclass, just welterweight...The answer is NO-ONE. Then he turns around and is getting ready to fight Ocar for another big payday. You're god-damn right they should strip him of the fuckin belt, for being a chump and a coward, and for not facing the number one contender who ever it maybe whether its Margo, Paul Williams, or Cotto. However, the WBA champ is Cotto so I believe that should make him the number one contender.
But, that puss, doesn't want no part of Cotto, Floyd does not fear none of these boxers, but, he fears the prospect of losing...That is why he will never
fight Cotto, Williams, or Margarito. All of them can hand him his first loss, and
Floyd doesn't want that. To all of the boxing fans out there, Boxing is not like
it once was 20 yrs. ago...Today anyone can just buy their way into a fight,
like Oscar. What belt does he have ??? None! He is not even in the top ten rank. And the powers that be just let him do what ever the fuck he wants, how about the other contenders ??? It is not fair to them. However, in a way,it is thier fault too, because they put up with the shit and don't open their mouths. They must protest, or even boycott his {Floyd's} fights. Cotto is a dumb-ass. If any body has the right to complain is him. They used to call it the mandatory # 1 challenger...Now it is called the one that comes with the most cheddar {$$$}...... I tell you this sport needs to clean house. Another thing, they should not allow anyone to box over the age of 40. Look at Holyfield ... he comes and goes when ever he wants, and they give him a title shot. Then they - Oscar, Arum, Don King - Have the balls to say we want to give the boxing fans what they want to see. Yeah right! MFr's, we the hard-working people, are the fools that fall for that shit. $59.95 out of our pockets. Then after the fight we go to turn off the TV and we say to ourselves, damn they got me again - that was a half-ass boxing match. I am not ordering another PPV again. That lasts until the next mainevent, Then we do it all over again and again. I don't know folks, but, something has got to give. Either we stop giving in to this boxing BS until the powers that be notice the PPV decline and put up better boxing shows or they are going to lose a lot of boxing fans. Well peeps I'm out. And remember dont talk about it,
be about it !!!!!!! Manny R. {New York City} Holler, Stay-up-Hold Your Heads......
im not the one talking about guys likin each other. i was sayin its all business and u get off on that. u mad whack
I refuse to lower myself to your level any more. This will be the last time i respond to any of your posts. I cant believe that i'm actually arguing with a kid who still gets allowance from his mommy. Take care kid!
p.s There's more to life than Floyd.
thats cause hes all business son thats all. he aint whipped like u. he only looks at Floyd because hes in the corner and he knows greatness when he sees it. stop frontin.
Clearly this thread is done, judging by the foolishness being discussed. But to throw in my 2 cents, flow would need to give up his belts to fight Oscar, or be stripped, unless the WBC gives him an extension for the Oscar fight. In which case he would have to agree to defend against his mandatory WBC fighter Andre Berto. The Ring belt he has couldnt be stripped becuz The Ring doesnt strip its champions.
thats cause hes all business son thats all. he aint whipped like u. he only looks at Floyd because hes in the corner and he knows greatness when he sees it. stop frontin.
Damn boy! You need help in order to get over your infatuation with Floyd. Seriously, your man-love that u have for Floyd is not normal! When u have other Floyd fans calling u a biased nuthugger, u know something is wrong with you!
what a lier! u wish he was but he aint. prove it. ya cant
Where was Ellerbe's wife/girlfriend and kids during both 24/7's? He devotes his entire life to Floyd. He even breaks night waiting for Floyd's phone calls. U ever noticed how he looks at Floyd in between rounds? He looks at Floyd with a gazing passion in his eyes.
If you're referring to the Sturm fight, Roy Jones was doing the HBO commentary and he definitely thought Sturm won. He was almost ecstatic when Oscar was eating jabs in the second half of that fight. I can't remember about the others.
I was talking about Mosley II.
yep thats right......
the only difference is Park Si Hun admitted to roy that roy beat him...
Did u see Oscar's face during and after the decision? If that wasnt a look of defeat, i dont know what is! He knew he lost.
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I've heard both things said about both fights.
Lederman, Foreman, Merchant and Lampley all agreed that De La Hoya easily won.
If you're referring to the Sturm fight, Roy Jones was doing the HBO commentary and he definitely thought Sturm won. He was almost ecstatic when Oscar was eating jabs in the second half of that fight. I can't remember about the others.
In that case, its fair to say that your boy Roy lost in the 88 olympics. Its what the judges say right? :owned:
Jones dominated his opponents, never losing a single round on route to the final. His participation in the final proved to be hugely controversial when he lost a highly disputed 3-2 decision in the final. Jones lost to South Korean fighter Park Si-Hun, despite pummeling Park for three rounds, landing 86 punches to Park's 32. Allegedly, Park himself apologized to Jones afterwards. One judge shortly thereafter admitted the decision was a mistake, and all three judges voting against Jones were eventually suspended. Most observers still believe the judges were either bribed or otherwise coerced to vote for the local fighter by Korean officials. However, the official IOC investigation concluding in 1997 found that 3 of the judges were wined and dined by Korean officials, but the IOC still officially stands by the decision.
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