2 It is a clean low blow, you can watch any tape/video/angle and you will see it, stop taking your bias all the way to your eyesight.
3 I said imagine whatn ZOO would have done to cotto at 140.
4 Bullshit again... stop typing lies. Castillo had plenty of fights at 140-147. In the past few years, he shrinked down to 135 for title fights only. Not interested win what you thought about Hatton, that message was for 'Teca.
when did castillo fight at 147?
2 the music prevents you from hearing weather the ref ruled it a slip or a low blow and no the music doesn't prevent me from seeing the clean body shot
3you said to imagine judah cracking cotto at 140
4 castillo fought at 135 his whole career and i always thought hatton was garbage even before he got knocked out by floyd
2 It is a clean low blow, you can watch any tape/video/angle and you will see it, stop taking your bias all the way to your eyesight.
3 I said imagine whatn ZOO would have done to cotto at 140.
4 Bullshit again... stop typing lies. Castillo had plenty of fights at 140-147. In the past few years, he shrinked down to 135 for title fights only. Not interested win what you thought about Hatton, that message was for 'Teca.
Well even if I did dream up a style change...
He is clearly less wreckless than he was a few years back at 140.
Corley and Torres hurt him... and say what you want about how good they are... they are not better than Shane Mosley. Mosley is much more accurate, quick, and probably has at least the same amount of power as those two, considering he has moved up so high.
The other half of the equation, that everyone refuses to respond to, is that Hatton has slowed down and gotten a lot more sloppy in recent fights.
Back in 05 when he was fresh off his win over Tszyu, he was a much better fighter than he is today.
I didn't hear a thing about Cotto's jab before the Judah fight.
I don't know... it just seems like Cotto has figured out a more effective way to get on the inside if he feels the need, and can actually do some good work on the outside, even better now.
watch the bailey and pinto fight
Im not sure where this came from that Cotto has changed. He really hasnt.
It seems as if even HBO forgot about the Pinto fight, where Merchant and Steward both praised Cotto's ability to be effective boxing and brawling. They even thought that Cotto was hurt in the fight once he started to back up and box. The same exact thing they did in the Mosely fight.
I didn't hear a thing about Cotto's jab before the Judah fight.
I don't know... it just seems like Cotto has figured out a more effective way to get on the inside if he feels the need, and can actually do some good work on the outside, even better now.
Im not sure where this came from that Cotto has changed. He really hasnt.
It seems as if even HBO forgot about the Pinto fight, where Merchant and Steward both praised Cotto's ability to be effective boxing and brawling. They even thought that Cotto was hurt in the fight once he started to back up and box. The same exact thing they did in the Mosely fight.
no you need to go watch some of cotto's earlier fights.yes cotto is better at 147 but i don't think he was a mediocre fighter at 140 his opponents at 140 are now champions torres and malignaggi
I didn't say he was mediocre... I just said his style changed for the better.
It's true.
Brawler -------------> Almost a hybrid of boxer-puncher/swarmer.
He's really good now. REALLY.
Back then, he was good, but that was about it.
Juan Urango was a champion but I'm willing to bet you don't credit Hatton for that win.
your right urango was a champion so was maussa but they are bums i'm not mad at hatton for fighting them i just feel like hatton has not fought anyone outside of tszyu collazo and floyd that are actuall threats
no you need to go watch some of cotto's earlier fights.yes cotto is better at 147 but i don't think he was a mediocre fighter at 140 his opponents at 140 are now champions torres and malignaggi
Juan Urango was a champion but I'm willing to bet you don't credit Hatton for that win.
You actually might want to watch some Cotto fights if you don't think his style has changed.
He used to be a brawler.
He now is a jab-dependent pressure fighter, who gets hit about half as much as he used to.
Hatton has also slowed down a lot since Cotto was at 140.
no you need to go watch some of cotto's earlier fights.yes cotto is better at 147 but i don't think he was a mediocre fighter at 140 his opponents at 140 are now champions torres and malignaggi
cotto has gotten a little better the fights with corley and torres he just got wreckless all his fights before that he was washing people up even dominated a maussa that hatton had problems with
You actually might want to watch some Cotto fights if you don't think his style has changed.
He used to be a brawler.
He now is a jab-dependent pressure fighter, who gets hit about half as much as he used to.
Hatton has also slowed down a lot since Cotto was at 140.
Maybe it is just me...
But I don't think Cotto had a shot in hell of beating either Judah or Mosley if he still fought like he did at 140.
Does no one else seriously think that Cotto's style change has made him significantly better?
Also, I personally see Hatton on the way down. He used to be much more active, and much more ferocious.
2 years ago at 140, Hatton.
Now, at 147 Cotto and easily.
cotto has gotten a little better the fights with corley and torres he just got wreckless all his fights before that he was washing people up even dominated a maussa that hatton had problems with
1 what does that have to do with collazo? I just called your bullshit, I never mentioned the collazo win as a sign of greatness or of anything, as you seem to imply.
2 does the music prevent you from seeing that's a low blow? interesting case i thought music could have affected hearing, not sight...
3 and so...? i mentioned 4 names hatton, cotto, zoo, torres. what the fuck does that have to do with judah now?
4 i dont know about castillo being a smaller man since he was weighing 147 and above on fight night since 2000 or something... but how does that and all the other crap answer my point: Hatton fights Floyd Mayweather and you give him shit?
5 I noticed you started using paragraphs... awesome. I suggest punctuation next.
2 the music prevents you from hearing weather the ref ruled it a slip or a low blow and no the music doesn't prevent me from seeing the clean body shot
3you said to imagine judah cracking cotto at 140
4 castillo fought at 135 his whole career and i always thought hatton was garbage even before he got knocked out by floyd
Maybe it is just me...
But I don't think Cotto had a shot in hell of beating either Judah or Mosley if he still fought like he did at 140.
Does no one else seriously think that Cotto's style change has made him significantly better?
Also, I personally see Hatton on the way down. He used to be much more active, and much more ferocious.
2 years ago at 140, Hatton.
Now, at 147 Cotto and easily.
I tend to agree with everything you have said. Cotto has improved dramatically and has made modifications to his style which will probably ensure he has greater longevity in the sport than Hatton.
Maybe it is just me...
But I don't think Cotto had a shot in hell of beating either Judah or Mosley if he still fought like he did at 140.
Does no one else seriously think that Cotto's style change has made him significantly better?
Also, I personally see Hatton on the way down. He used to be much more active, and much more ferocious.
2 years ago at 140, Hatton.
Now, at 147 Cotto and easily.
I got Cotto winning by stoppage.
Hatton can take a good shot, but his chin is real overated. He has been put on his ass whenever he stepped up. Or at the very least wobbled.
If Cotto stops Hatton it's with body shots.
1 corley was a bullshit stoppage yeah maybe but corley was already on the floor 3 times in 5 rounds the win against collazo was a bullshit win
2 the kd is a body shot find the actuall fight and watch it instead of clips with music playin over it so shut up
3 i have the visual of zab laying on his back in the 11th
4 he lost to floyd, castillo was a smaller man and was on the downfall he couldn't even make weight for his fights, hatton had problems with maussa before he koed him the unofficial scorecard had hatton down a round before the ko and wasn't urango dropped by some bum on friday night fights after he fought hatton
1 what does that have to do with collazo? I just called your bullshit, I never mentioned the collazo win as a sign of greatness or of anything, as you seem to imply.
2 does the music prevent you from seeing that's a low blow? interesting case i thought music could have affected hearing, not sight...
3 and so...? i mentioned 4 names hatton, cotto, zoo, torres. what the fuck does that have to do with judah now?
4 i dont know about castillo being a smaller man since he was weighing 147 and above on fight night since 2000 or something... but how does that and all the other crap answer my point: Hatton fights Floyd Mayweather and you give him shit?
5 I noticed you started using paragraphs... awesome. I suggest punctuation next.
The bold is false, and you should learn to use punctuation, capitals and other stuff like that.
1) Corley was a bullshit stoppage... Corley takes a knee and the borikua ref, in the borikua stadium, waves it off. Lol at you mentioning that, and again you are typing a lot of bullshit, because Corley has been stopped again... irrelevant anyways, because the point is not that Cotto stopped or dominated Corley, is that he was on queet street, which I see you cannot debate. And since I am here, with that ref, Corley would have been stopped by Mayweather, too. Since he took a knee.
2) The Zoo "knockdown":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XX695yh9FU
at 2:28, you can see the lowblow and shut up.
Hatton has been knocked down once, he was up in 2 seconds,
3) "Torres would lay Hatton out"... wishful thinking...
Now since you like phantasizing so much, imagine what Zoo would have done to Cotto's chin at 140.
4) No Belts? So what? He fought Castillo and Mayweather, that's why he has been stripped... Hmm what's better fighting Malignaggi or Mayweather?
He fought Zoo, Mayweather, Maussa, Urango and Collazo all of them for "belts".
1 corley was a bullshit stoppage yeah maybe but corley was already on the floor 3 times in 5 rounds the win against collazo was a bullshit win
2 the kd is a body shot find the actuall fight and watch it instead of clips with music playin over it so shut up
3 i have the visual of zab laying on his back in the 11th
4 he lost to floyd, castillo was a smaller man and was on the downfall he couldn't even make weight for his fights, hatton had problems with maussa before he koed him the unofficial scorecard had hatton down a round before the ko and wasn't urango dropped by some bum on friday night fights after he fought hatton