if you break it down yes the pavlik fight was a better fight.
Pavlik clearly won the fight, Oscar vs mayweather was one point away from draw.(your scoring doesn't matter only the judges do, and Evey body likes different things.)
Taylor and Oscar were both champions so the both deserve a rematch.
The Taylor rematch wont be happening at 160 and it seems like Oscar vs Floyd wont happen at 154. the divisions were the champ lost there belts.
There are better fights out there for Floyd but there are just as many for pavlik.
So my question is why is Taylor and pavlik rematch OK but people are bitch-en about the Oscar mayweather fight?
(besides entertainment, they are both good calls)
If you don't like the tread don't waste your time and others by simply saying you think its a dumb thread.
Taylor vs Pavlik 2 or 3 or even 4 will always be better because they will actually fight each other.
No one wants to see the so called best boxer in the history of the world claim he is going to deystroy and old has been and when they get in the ring he runs away all night.
I think Taylor would of lost respect if he didn't fufill the rematch clause. Good point raised earlier on about which fight you would watch if they were on the same night, I think I am among the majority who would prefer to watch taylor pavlik live over may dlh.
taylor was on the floor so the second round ment nothing,
oscar went into the fight with no prior fight and gave him a good fight, this time around it looks like mayweather is going to have the inactivity going into this fight
You are missing the point my little mutant friend. The Taylor/Pavlik is happening because Taylor was the undisputed middleweight champion of the world and that Pavlike loss was his first official loss. He was ranked top 10 p4p by everybody.
He deserves a rematch to avenge his one and only loss and Delahoya doesn't. Plain and simple english.....
if you break it down yes the pavlik fight was a better fight.
Pavlik clearly won the fight, Oscar vs mayweather was one point away from draw.(your scoring doesn't matter only the judges do, and Evey body likes different things.)
Taylor and Oscar were both champions so the both deserve a rematch.
The Taylor rematch wont be happening at 160 and it seems like Oscar vs Floyd wont happen at 154. the divisions were the champ lost there belts.
There are better fights out there for Floyd but there are just as many for pavlik.
So my question is why is Taylor and pavlik rematch OK but people are bitch-en about the Oscar mayweather fight?
(besides entertainment, they are both good calls)
If you don't like the tread don't waste your time and others by simply saying you think its a dumb thread.
#1- there was a rematch clause
#2- DLH has only really beat one opponent(Mayorga) in the the last 4.5 years and that opponent is mediocre.
#3- Taylor has only lost to Pavlik, they are both hungry young and competitive, and if Taylor takes a different approch to the fight he has a very good chance of beating Pavlik.
#4- DLH is a cross-dresser
if you break it down yes the pavlik fight was a better fight.
Pavlik clearly won the fight, Oscar vs mayweather was one point away from draw.(your scoring doesn't matter only the judges do, and Evey body likes different things.)
Taylor and Oscar were both champions so the both deserve a rematch.
The Taylor rematch wont be happening at 160 and it seems like Oscar vs Floyd wont happen at 154. the divisions were the champ lost there belts.
There are better fights out there for Floyd but there are just as many for pavlik.
So my question is why is Taylor and pavlik rematch OK but people are bitch-en about the Oscar mayweather fight?
(besides entertainment, they are both good calls)
If you don't like the tread don't waste your time and others by simply saying you think its a dumb thread.
because this is a safe fight for both fighters and EVERYONE already knows the outcome. oscar to afraid to do anything after getting clipped by a few over hand rights, fm wins by decision and oscar explaining how it just wasn't a jab night. (yawn)
To answer the thread! Its ok because Taylor put up a really good fight and PBF basically blew right threw Oscar! To a point where PBF could have done much more but chose to win by an easy U.D.
You were prolly crying Oscar won after the fight and now you're saying easy UD for pbf LOL
Of course there's the mandatory rematch clause, but for me I would rather see Pavlik/Taylor II becuase even though Pavlik won by KO, I think Taylor has a decent shot of turning it around. Mayweather I think will win the rematch easier and there are better fights and more relevant fights out there for Mayweather.
oscar was comin off a knockout win over mayorga a yr before... not sure whats considered active... but 12months is probably the max
I stand corrected. 1 fight since '04.. then Mayweather.
oscar was comin off a knockout win over mayorga a yr before... not sure whats considered active... but 12months is probably the max
second fight floyd is going to go in with 9 mont lay off and oscar only 4. doesnt that make you a bit more intrested. Or the fact that floyd had a Knockout of a guy who had not been knocked out in his carrere?
GOOD POST THANX.. Idiot post
I kind of knew i was one of the few that are for both fights.
And im happy for the most part that people gave good conversations and left good respectable post (even if they were againt my thaughts), thats why i like this place, to every one that posted there thaughts and replyed without insult or knowing what they were talking about thanx,
for the people who posted randome shit i say, make your point and explain it so you can gain some respect.
Oscar wasn't even an active fighter pre-DLH/Mayweather 1. Beating Oscar twice does look good on a resume' though, I'll give ya that. I'm not really sure how much more Cotto is expected to establish himself. Even $ wise. I would say other than DLH, Cotto is the biggest fight for Mayweather.
oscar was comin off a knockout win over mayorga a yr before... not sure whats considered active... but 12months is probably the max
My question is how much of this is because people are mad that the fight didnt live up to the hype?
Meh, that really has little to do with it, as far as I'm concerned. I actually really enjoyed the first fight. Now a Mayweather/Hatton rematch... That might just send me into fits.
in floyds mind.. besides dollar signs... oscar is one of the most accomplished active fighters there is... in floyds mind.. if he beats him, twice even... it DOES help secure his legacy... in the meantime allowing for cotto to establish himself even more as a name... so he can bank on that fight down the road
Oscar wasn't even an active fighter pre-DLH/Mayweather 1. Beating Oscar twice does look good on a resume' though, I'll give ya that. I'm not really sure how much more Cotto is expected to establish himself. Even $ wise. I would say other than DLH, Cotto is the biggest fight for Mayweather.
why pavlik-taylor II good? = because IMO it was fight of the year for 2007, not only that kelly pavlik was an underdog in the fight, having being knocked down many fans expected taylor to win until pavlik got back and pulled an upset in the 7th round to score a TKO. in this rematch taylor will have a chance at getting redemption.
why mayweather-dlh NOT okay? = to me, the fight was one of the most pathetic fights i've seen in 2007 with many hoping to be a great fight, it broke tremendous records from past ppv (like lewis v.s holyfield, & tyson-lewis) oscar dlh was an underdog in the fight, mayweather won the fight via a close split decision, the rematch everyone knows mayweather will win again but it's a pointless rematch, mayweather just wants more money since in may 5 he only got 20 mil, in this rematch he's hoping to get more $ (:no:).
As I think about it. I don't guess I'm so much against the Floyd/DLH fight. I think I'm just more dissapointed in it, from a fan standpoint. Floyd's not getting any younger himself. He chances breaking his hand(s) in every fight now. I guess what I'm trying to say is.. He already has all the money he'll need in three lifetimes. Why not spend the precious time you have left in this sport, securing your legacy as an all time great, rather than fighting guys you've already beat just to pad your bankroll even more. And I hope he beats DLH, and then fights Cotto. Let's say he loses to DLH. The fight with Cotto loses some of it's excitement, imo. Because then, if he loses to Cotto.. No big deal, cause Cotto just beat a guy that lost to an over the hill, past prime DLH.
That said. I think he beats DLH again. And boxes circles around Cotto.
My question is how much of this is because people are mad that the fight didnt live up to the hype?
all i wanna know is... howd you come to the conclusion that pavlik CLEARLY won
my question is why did you break it down like that, there is more to that post. i was in the middle of stateing facts but you took one and put it out of contexts
all i wanna know is... howd you come to the conclusion that pavlik CLEARLY won
i was stateing that he clearly won his fight so besides the rematch clause on the contract, there is no reason for that fight.