Riddick Bowe was a wasted talent ,he was good inside ,quick ,powerfull ,determined despite what the media believed pre Holyfield ,his left jab was accurate & snapy ,decent defence
i think Bowe's jab ranks up there with Holmes ,Ali ,Lewis as one of the best Heavyweight jabs ever ,i would have loved to have seen Bowe v Lewis both had tremendous power both had superb Jabs both had questionable chins aswell IMO , i know people will say Bowe's Chin was okay but Bowe was rocked by Holyfield in there 2nd fight stopped by Lewis in the knocked down by Holyfeild in the 3rd fight & even admitted that little Herbie Hide shook him up a bit in there fight, he was also flawed in Golota 2,so in my estimation both of them had good chins but they could be vulnerablea at times IMO ,both were masters Boxers with great jabs
i feel Bowe is overlooked when ever we discuss top Heavyweights we throw Tyson in there etc but Bowe always get omitted ,i think Bowe had the capability to be as dominent as Tyson in his prime had he been able to control his eating habits
Then how do you figure the fact that Bowe was in his old championship form again in the second Golota fight, same weight etc, yet he was utterly dominated? And this was before he even turned 30. Either Bowe was completely washed up in those fights, or Golota was a superior fighter to Bowe. You gotta make a pick then.
A guy with his size shouldn't be done before 30. That's when swarmers go out, not the tall big guys with a long jab. Bowe didn't have defence, slugged a lot when it wasn't to his best advantage(career-wise, in the long run). Tyson, Mercer and Holyfield were powerful punchers that could slug for a long time, and I reckon taking clean big punches from Lewis or even Moorer wouldn't be healthy either.
I understand that him abusing his body was a big factor in his decline as well, but you can't tell me that in a diffirent scenario with Bowe still going to war with murderous punchers that he'd be more dominant for a long time.
Bowe was at his fighting weight but the damage had been done it does'nt matter if Bowe had come in at 215 lbs his reflexes were shot & he had sustained a degree of brain damdge by then
if Bowe was'nt completely washed up then explain then why he was slurring his words like some drunk off the street in the post fight interview , watch Roy v Tarver 1 +2 , u can see Roy is competitve & has lost none of his speed yet there is something missing that the naked eye cannot recognise some ingredient that made them superior has suddenly erroded & fighter who would'nt have been competitive before is now able to not only compete but dominate
watch Bowe v Hide ,Holyfield 3 u can see Bowe was ready for the scrap yard then he looked awfull in both fights he was hurt by Hide & put down by Holfield & lets not forget Holyfield was in the same fights as Bowe so how come Bowe sustained more damage to his Brain than Evander ,IMO its because Evander was in control of his weight Bowe was'nt ,the way u manage your weight can be a big factor in the kind of punishment your brain takes that why Gerald McClellan & Paul Ingle sustained their injuries IMO u cannot keep punishing your body to make weight eventually dieting or starving yourself to make weight & lack of Nutrients your body needs is only gonna errode your bodly fuctions your brain & your body
if Bowe had been more dedicated outside the ring he would have had longevity in it ,lifestyle is a huge factor in Longevity a Tyson fan should realise of all people i give Evander full props for beating Mike but Tyson was'nt the same fighter he was pre Jail ,take a look at the whipping Mike Took at the hands of Buster Douglas either Mike was Completely washed up or Douglas was a superior fighter to Mike Take your pick ,u see it works both ways
IMO Tyson would have whipped the floor Douglas as Bowe would have done with Golota ,although both Golota & Douglas were underachievers & possibly underated fighters
Bowe would have smashed the head clean off your man Vlad :asshole:
wlad would have been a stylistic nightmare for bowe. wlad couldnt miss him with that laser like right hand. he'd have knocked bowe out within 3 rounds. rock newman wouldnt have even matched them. he avoided punchers like the plague for good reason
LOL it is actually quite funny when u consider that people questioned Bowe's Heart if anything that is one of the main contributing factors to his downfall he liked fighting Toe to toe & tried to get his man out of there asap ,for the Media to question his heart in retrospect seems a bit of a dumb analogy now when u look at some of the Wars he was involved in :pat:
Mike Tyson had no Heart
norris's chin wasn't his only weakness. you also left out norris being a complete hothead.
he was dq'd against walker for hitting him when he was down, and santana twice for a rabbit punch and a blatant shot when he stepped AROUND Kenny Bayless to hit Santana, after the bell. Santana was probably acting, but Norris was too damn hot-headed anyway. Him getting stopped or dropped was also a consequence of his lack of discipline when it came to boxing and not getting into warfare.
He also blatantly hit Leonard when he was down, and Waters (behind the head).
:gives: Santana was acting the right hand Norris hit him with had nothing on it yet that Fucka was down for about 15 minutes play acting, he should have got an Oscar for his dying swan act the fucking :asshole:
Norris did show lack of discipline but that is what made him so exciting his fights were up & downers he would stand toe to toe even though he possesed the better Boxing ability ,Norris was 'nt disciplined otherwise he would have Boxed more instead of gunslinging but like i said that is why he was so exciting to watch tremendous Skill & a big Heart ,very quick & a good combination puncher
thats why i like Fighter like Riddick Bowe & Terry Norris cause allthough they possesed great Boxing ability they would also put it on the line aswell ,it might not have been the most sensible thing to do all the while but there fights were damn entertaining
Bowe>>>tyson...but Average Fans Are Bainwashed Real Fans Know...him Not Having Dedication Was Still Better Then Tyson Being Scared Of A Guy Steping Up 2 Him
I think the biggest wasted talent that I have seen in my life time was Meldri Taylor. I think he was faster than Floyd with a harder punch. Had amazing ring generalship and great stamina. Its amazing how one fight ruined everything for him. Im sure most of you guys know what fight that was...
that fight didn't ruin everything for him. that's revisionist history made more popular by hbo documentaries.
it is true that taylor wasn't the same after chavez, but he was still a good formidable fighter afterwards. he moved up in weight and beat an undefeated champ in aaron davis for a world title. it was too much accumulated punishment, both in fights and in the gym, and questionable management decisions, led to him being worn out at such a young age.
duva and team shouldn't have put him in there with norris @ 154 lbs.
taylor was too brawl happy for his own good, but at least he used his talent to do some very good things so i can't see how he's the biggest waste of talent. he won 2 world titles in 2 weight classes, handily beat an excellent fighter in mcgirt, gave an atg in chavez all he could handle.
talented guys like ibeabuchi and ayala never made it past the contender level. ricardo williams never made it past the prospect level.
Taylor got smashed By Norris , u can say J C Chavez took his prime away but Norris was a superior Boxer anyway ,u wanna see ring generalship u should watch Terry Norris when he is'nt Gun Slinging ,when he is using his considerable Boing ability Norris was as quick as Taylor aswell
Norris Was as good as Ray leonard ,RJJ when iT comes to Boxing ability ,if had a better chin he would have been only 2nd to RJJ IMO
norris's chin wasn't his only weakness. you also left out norris being a complete hothead.
he was dq'd against walker for hitting him when he was down, and santana twice for a rabbit punch and a blatant shot when he stepped AROUND Kenny Bayless to hit Santana, after the bell. Santana was probably acting, but Norris was too damn hot-headed anyway. Him getting stopped or dropped was also a consequence of his lack of discipline when it came to boxing and not getting into warfare.
He also blatantly hit Leonard when he was down, and Waters (behind the head).
I definatley agree. Norris was the better pure boxer but Taylor clearly had the better handspeed in my opinion. Norris was actually one of the best pure boxers i have ever watched. Take a look at the this fight with Magabi, it was boxings brilliance at its best.
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yep Norris was pure quality so easy on the eye to watch cause of his hand speed Combination punching & his fluency
there are very few fighters that are as easy on the eye & and as fluent in thier movements than prime Roy Jones ,Norris ,Ray Leonard ,Ali especially
Debatable but after a rethink i kind of agree that he was slightly faster than Norris ,it looked to me like Norris was struggling to stay with Taylor for hand speed when they fought
Taylor did'ny have the ring craft Norris did though ,Taylor was a good boxer but in his prime Norris put on some Masterfull displays
I definatley agree. Norris was the better pure boxer but Taylor clearly had the better handspeed in my opinion. Norris was actually one of the best pure boxers i have ever watched. Take a look at the this fight with Magabi, it was boxings brilliance at its best.
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Norris was a brilliant pure boxer but he was no where near as quick as Taylor. You can make a case that Meldrick Taylor was the fastest fighter of all time.
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Debatable but after a rethink i kind of agree that he was slightly faster than Norris ,it looked to me like Norris was struggling to stay with Taylor for hand speed when they fought
Taylor did'ny have the ring craft Norris did though ,Taylor was a good boxer but in his prime Norris put on some Masterfull displays
Taylor got smashed By Norris , u can say J C Chavez took his prime away but Norris was a superior Boxer anyway ,u wanna see ring generalship u should watch Terry Norris when he is'nt Gun Slinging ,when he is using his considerable Boing ability Norris was as quick as Taylor aswell
Norris Was as good as Ray leonard ,RJJ when iT comes to Boxing ability ,if had a better chin he would have been only 2nd to RJJ IMO
Norris was a brilliant pure boxer but he was no where near as quick as Taylor. You can make a case that Meldrick Taylor was the fastest fighter of all time.
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I think the biggest wasted talent that I have seen in my life time was Meldri Taylor. I think he was faster than Floyd with a harder punch. Had amazing ring generalship and great stamina. Its amazing how one fight ruined everything for him. Im sure most of you guys know what fight that was...
Taylor got smashed By Norris , u can say J C Chavez took his prime away but Norris was a superior Boxer anyway ,u wanna see ring generalship u should watch Terry Norris when he is'nt Gun Slinging ,when he is using his considerable Boing ability Norris was as quick as Taylor aswell
Norris Was as good as Ray leonard ,RJJ when iT comes to Boxing ability ,if had a better chin he would have been only 2nd to RJJ IMO
I think the biggest wasted talent that I have seen in my life time was Meldri Taylor. I think he was faster than Floyd with a harder punch. Had amazing ring generalship and great stamina. Its amazing how one fight ruined everything for him. Im sure most of you guys know what fight that was...
that little btich Vlad wants to thank his lucky stars that there are'nt any good HW out there cause he would get chin checked again
who knows maybe another Journeyman HW can Knock him the fuck out again:nonono:
Yeah right buddy...Wlad is way too skilled and talented for Bowe...Wlad would dominate Bowe with his jab and knock his ass out...Vitali Klitschko would also whoop Bowe's ass.
Bowe is way more talented than that fuckin Robot
"Bowe with his jab and knock his ass out" i think you'll find its Vlad that aint got a chin :asshole: Smash
Bowe would have smashed the head clean off your man Vlad :asshole:
Yeah right buddy...Wlad would be too skilled and talented for Bowe...Wlad would dominate Bowe with his jab and knock his ass out...Vitali Klitschko would also whoop Bowe's ass.
Bowe's prime ended way before the 1st Golota fight ,u could see he was'nt the same fighter against Holyfield in the 3 rd fight ,If Herbie Hide had a chin he could have beaten Bowe ,Bowe was being outboxed for most of that fight & looked awfull & he was'nt slipping anything either ,Bowe won the fight cause he was bigger & stronger than Hide
anybody who knows anything about Bowe should know he was on the slide by the time he fought Holyfield for the 3rd time ,a prime Bowe would have whipped Golota badly ,Bowe Eating habbits erroaded his skills
Riddick Bowe = Golota's Bitch :D
bowe was in his prime in the first golota fight. he was damged after the beating he took in that fight. he couldnt deal with skilled in shape heavyweights his own size. why do you think they avoided guys like ruddock and lewis?
Bowe's prime ended way before the 1st Golota fight ,u could see he was'nt the same fighter against Holyfield in the 3 rd fight ,If Herbie Hide had a chin he could have beaten Bowe ,Bowe was being outboxed for most of that fight & looked awfull & he was'nt slipping anything either ,Bowe won the fight cause he was bigger & stronger than Hide
anybody who knows anything about Bowe should know he was on the slide by the time he fought Holyfield for the 3rd time ,a prime Bowe would have whipped Golota badly ,Bowe Eating habbits erroaded his skills
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