Was terrible. "Cmon get busy, let's go, yo know what i'm saying"
"Cmon you goto to get rid of this guy, no ifs and or butts about it>"
and "Cmon you have to throw more combinations off the jab."
Thanks Buddy, but what the F***. they payin you for that?
Be more specific, what punches should follow? How do you set it up? I mean any boxing fan could say "throw more combinations off the jab."
McGirt's job is supposed to prepare him to be able to do it. Obviously, Fast Eddie has some major skills. But he didn't let his hands go probly because there was no specific plan.
Eddie Chambers needs a much better trainer. I'm very down on McGirt lately. He got Brewster almost damn near killed, he almost got Paulie KOed by Ngoudjou, he got Tarver beat up by Hopkins, he got Adamek pummeled by Dawson, Buddy has not had a very good past two years of training fighters.
Eddie Chambers can be champ I beleive. He's got some good stuff, very good right, good upper body movment, toughness. A top trainer could get Fast Eddie to one ofthe title. I think Fast Eddie beats Peter, Maskaev.
Chambers either quit in that fight or took a dive. McGirt was giving Chambers the correct instructions. Chambers didn't do shit McGirt said so you can't blame the trainer if the fighter doesn't do what the trainer said. Now if the fighter tries what the trainers tells them and the fighter gets fucked up thats the trainers fault. But that wasn't the case in the Chambers fight.
I thought the advice was spot on.
Did anyone notice that when McGirt would shout something from the corner, Chambers would immediately do it in the ring and whatever McGirt shouted would work.
Exactly. McGirt can teach boxing skills and strategy, but other variables like determination, heart and the willingness to do what it takes to win he can't teach. That depends on what the fighter has inside of him. That's whats great about boxing you may have all the talent and the perfect strategy, but once you get hit in the face that all goes away and it depends on what the fighter is made of.
Yeah maybe Buddy is exonerated. Maybe Eddie just aint in the league of Povyetkin who like most Russians, is hungrier and want it more than the Americans. Eddie has some talent though, a better trainer could make him better. he has skills, we'll see how bad he wants it. and how confident he is of achieving it.
McGirt is slumpng there's no doubt about it, but Eddie Chambers fought a lazy, pathetic, gutless fight and he's 100% completely to blame.
Exactly. McGirt can teach boxing skills and strategy, but other variables like determination, heart and the willingness to do what it takes to win he can't teach. That depends on what the fighter has inside of him. That's whats great about boxing you may have all the talent and the perfect strategy, but once you get hit in the face that all goes away and it depends on what the fighter is made of.
I think the advice was solid. You don't want to put too much information in a boxers head. He was telling his fighter to throw combinations off the jab, which is exactly what he needed to do. The awful looking cover-up defense only works if you return blows as soon as your opponent opens up, which Chambers was not doing.
Good point. I think in the corner you can't be puttin too much information in a boxer's head. At that point it should just be reaction instead of thinking too much. Chambers knew what he had to do, it was just that he wasn't executing it. Steward could have been his trainer last night and he probably still wouldn't have executed. The trainer can't fight for you, when your in the ring it comes down to you and you only.
Could it be that one of Povetkin's punches did more damage than we saw and Chambers was just too afraid to open himself up?
Not just one but a lot of them. You still need to go out trying though. If he was that worried about Pov's strength, then he doesn't belong in the heavy weight division. Maybe he needs to move around more instead of playing rope a dope.
Could it be that one of Povetkin's punches did more damage than we saw and Chambers was just too afraid to open himself up?
i think that's what it was. i don't want to say "afraid," but i think he was hesitant to open up after he felt povetkin's power. and he's not an overly aggressive fighter as it is.
i thought buddy was saying exactly the right things. chambers knew what to do from a technical standpoint. it's not the corner's job to fight the fight. buddy said open up and throw combos. exactly right.
Plain and simple he wasn't doing shit! I thought maybe his strategy was to pick it up in the later rounds, but he never did. I think he was more worried about blocking punches than winning the fight. The whole problem was him not fighting enough, that's why his corner was giving him the instructions they did.
I think the advice was solid. You don't want to put too much information in a boxers head. He was telling his fighter to throw combinations off the jab, which is exactly what he needed to do. The awful looking cover-up defense only works if you return blows as soon as your opponent opens up, which Chambers was not doing.
Emmanuel Steward gives much more precise instruction. Emmanuel sees the openings and tells his guy what to look for and what punch to throw. McGirt is not in Steward's league, not even close
I think the advice was solid. You don't want to put too much information in a boxers head. He was telling his fighter to throw combinations off the jab, which is exactly what he needed to do. The awful looking cover-up defense only works if you return blows as soon as your opponent opens up, which Chambers was not doing.
what hes tryin gto say is... he wasnt explaining how to... if he could KO him he would of already... obviously he doesnt know how too.. so explain it to him... your the trainer
They obviously went over this in the camp though. HE was doing it non-stop in the early rounds, so he clearly knew what he had to do. ANd he aknowledged Mcgirt when he told him these things. He just couldnt go out there and do it. Didnt have the mental fortitude to throw while getting thrown at
what hes tryin gto say is... he wasnt explaining how to... if he could KO him he would of already... obviously he doesnt know how too.. so explain it to him... your the trainer
I thought is advice was excellent. He was telling Eddie to get rid of "this guy" in rounds 10 on because he NEEDED the KO to win the fight.
Eddie just didnt listen. The advice was right on point