You Cant Blame Floyd!

If Floyd wont fight this year against the no 2 Welterwight then hand over the belts ffs

Remember when no one was bitching about Cotto fighting Oscar like 2 months ago? I do. Floyd haters got :owned:

DLT..... Your stance is that of a fanboy, as opposed to a fight fan. You should be concerned about him taking on the opponents who will make interesting fights, fights that do more for his legacy, more for the sport itself, & towards silencing his critics. Their first fight left a lot to be desired, & a rematch would probably be even worse. So, instead of talking like Floyd is your brother or putting food on your table.....talk like someone who is a fan of the sport.

Fans make me sick. They always act like atheletes have to worry about them. They make me even more sick when they act like money doesnt mean anything. No way would anyone fight another guy over Oscar. No Boxer would. I gurantee you that. Fans are dumb for saying that guys should just fight the best boxer and not worry about money. This is life and everyone does it. YOU WOULD TOO! Why turn it down? Floyd also probally looks at it like he can fight Cotto, Williams, Pac, or whoever any time he wants but you dont get many chances with Oscar and you take them when you get them. If he says No to Oscar now to fight someone else then he's taking a super long shot on getting that fight again. No one is going to risk losing all that money. Every fighter close to Oscar would drop everything there doing to fight him and its a fact. There's only a couple of guys who wouldnt and its for other reasons. Cotto & Williams might fight Floyd over Oscar and then all of you would sweat them like they want the big fights instead of the money fight when in reality thats so far from the truth. They would fight Floyd because he's 2nd to Oscar when it comes to money, they would make way more in there career, and Im telling you that those guys see Floyd as an easier fight then Oscar because of the size. Its the samething I always say. They dont fear Floyd because they think there too big for him. Everyone knows that Floyd is way better then Oscar P4P but I bet that both Williams and Cotto see Oscar as a bigger threat to them then Floyd, espically if the Oscar fight is at 154. Im just shocked that Oscar is doing it. He does have some good reasons. Floyd is the #1 guy in boxing, he's the biggest name in boxing behind Oscar, and he's smaller. It can help his legacy so much and its the biggest money fight. I still thought he would fight Cotto 1st but for some reason he wont. I personaly think that as much as he talks about being friends with Arum, he still likes to stick it to him. Oscar is fake though because he said that he would never fight Floyd again because Floyd runs. Now you have other WW's who wont run and you wont fight them? I guess there names just arent big enough but like I said, Floyd does bring alot more pluses to the table then those 2. Im sure that your hoping like me that Oscar will still fight Cotto on Cinco De Mayo and then fight Floyd but I doubt it. My guess is that Arum will rip the public off with the Cotto tuneup and then the Cotto vs Margarito fight. I call it a ripoff because there the 2 most hyped guys in the game and someone will win close which will make them both look like 2 studs who everyone is scared off instead of maybe 2 overrated guys who cant beat the big boys good post.. karma coming your way.

I seriously doubt that. The first fight between DLH/Floyd was so boring it will be lucky to half of the first fight. Cotto/Floyd would do just as many PPV sales and would at least have the chance to be an exciting fight, unlike a DLH/Floyd rematch. Cotto/Margarito would be the most exciting match up style wise, but would probably not sell as much since Margarito is not a huge name and the fair weather fans that were drawn to the first DLH/Floyd fight are morons. These are the kind of fans that would rather watch Calzaghe/Manfredo than Calzaghe/Kessler. well the fight was not that boring as anyone claimed and there is no need for a 2nd fight but if you could get alot of money by fighting Oscar hell yeah for him. and If Oscar wanna secure his legacy by beating Flody is a hell yeah for him too. It more of an individaul fight that will not make any good for boxing but it will be good for both fighters. as for Cotto/Margarito I seen that coming Arum wanna get rid of Margarito and really hypen Cotto. that is the best way he could do it. But if Alfonso Gomes pulls and upset or at least Make Cotto look like a fool and Zab Judah win or TKO Margarito is going to be a bad for Arum

well Mayweather-DHL 2 will make x10 more money than Cotto-Margarito done 10 times. Anyway nobody knew Margarito intell he started out calling Floyd. I seriously doubt that. The first fight between DLH/Floyd was so boring it will be lucky to half of the first fight. Cotto/Floyd would do just as many PPV sales and would at least have the chance to be an exciting fight, unlike a DLH/Floyd rematch. Cotto/Margarito would be the most exciting match up style wise, but would probably not sell as much since Margarito is not a huge name and the fair weather fans that were drawn to the first DLH/Floyd fight are morons. These are the kind of fans that would rather watch Calzaghe/Manfredo than Calzaghe/Kessler.

Does that change the fact that these so-called boxing fans who "just want to see the best fight the best" were okay with Cotto fighting one guy and are not okay with Mayweather fighting another? I'm just as angry as everyone else about this fucking rematch, but the people who dislike Floyd go out of their way to call Floyd out for shit that they would allow for other fighters. It is obnoxious. Anyways, I certainly don't know how you can be ready to give Floyd's 147 status away to Cotto, considering Cotto was chasing the same fight just two months ago. Flody is the best it comes with the terriotory to be hated. look at Cotto's record in detail and know he is doing good but not that good. at 140 who is the guy who he beaten? Corely? people critize Floyd for fighting Gatti,Brussels and Corely. He won a WBO which is not recongnize by IBHOF At 147 he just started won the WBA against Quintant fought Urkal and then he fough Zab after everyone critized Floyd for doing so. It just shows how hypocrite many people in this website are. and now Cotto is fighting Alfonso Gomez and Margarito never talked about a rematch against William even though he though he won.

cotto isnt the welterweight champion who hasnt fought a welterweight in a long time cotto isnt the self proclaimed greatest ever cotto is just entering his prime, hes just getting going in his welterweight career. they are not at comparable places in their career. this should be legacy building time for floyd. but somehow dominating his division isnt something hes concerned about. and not surprisingly his fans dont care. shine shit and call it gold. good enough for floyd mayweather fans. Does that change the fact that these so-called boxing fans who "just want to see the best fight the best" were okay with Cotto fighting one guy and are not okay with Mayweather fighting another? I'm just as angry as everyone else about this fucking rematch, but the people who dislike Floyd go out of their way to call Floyd out for shit that they would allow for other fighters. It is obnoxious. Anyways, I certainly don't know how you can be ready to give Floyd's 147 status away to Cotto, considering Cotto was chasing the same fight just two months ago.

Remember when no one was bitching about Cotto fighting Oscar like 2 months ago? I do. cotto isnt the welterweight champion who hasnt fought a welterweight in a long time cotto isnt the self proclaimed greatest ever cotto is just entering his prime, hes just getting going in his welterweight career. they are not at comparable places in their career. this should be legacy building time for floyd. but somehow dominating his division isnt something hes concerned about. and not surprisingly his fans dont care. shine shit and call it gold. good enough for floyd mayweather fans.

If athletes aren't playing for their fans and fighters aren't fighting for their fans.. then who exactly are they fighting for? and just who exactly is Mayweather without his fans? They pay his checks after all.. The thread starter is a douche.. you could alway have haters to pay his check too :D

I can almost guarantee you that nobody will feel ripped off watching a Cotto-Margarito fight. Would you make the same guarantee about Mayweather-DLH II? well Mayweather-DHL 2 will make x10 more money than Cotto-Margarito done 10 times. Anyway nobody knew Margarito intell he started out calling Floyd.

Lying in order to avoid a fight = fear. No idea about Mosley and Tszyu. I do think that he made a statement about coming back from his vacation "if the money was right"... Not that it justifies the fight, but he wasn't lying.

WOW talk about over analyzing shit. So according to you their is nobody good, only overrated over hyped guys? Margarito lost early in his career like Marquez/Pac Man. Margarito lost a close decision to Paul Williams who is the new #1Most feared man in the welterweight division. Margarito is real contender and so is Cotto. If they fight i can see FOTY because of their styles.You can rest assure that if they fight they will lose years of their career that night. The moment PPV is annouced for Cotto vs Margarito i will buy it. They are both good but there is a difference between being good and being great. Cotto still has a chance to be great but Margarito doesnt. I call him overrated because people were hyping him so hard on here. Where have you been? Name one thing he did to get that hype? Just one. Beating a green Cintron? Come on now. He's getting by because he's a huge guy in his 1st division who beats up on guys smaller then him. Guys sweat him but he moves up one time and loses to an average guy like Santos. Then people were saying that he would put a beat down on Williams and he lost. Williams being the most avoided man is another joke. Its a hype job by fans and the media. There are very good guys who would fight him any time of day like Clottey, Collazo, Forrest, and Karmazin. Do you think those are not good fights? Then the other guys who wont fight him are the overhyped pussies Im talking about. How can guys like Cotto and Cintron not fight him? How could Margairto lose and not want a rematch when he is supposed to be a super warrior. Again, I will always cut Floyd a break due to the fact he's not a real WW. Poeple can downplay that shit all they want but I wont. If anyone believes that if this was Floyd's 1st division that he wouldnt fight Williams then they are a joke. Why would he be scared of Williams if he was a big natural WW? The same guy who's fought in 5 divisions and fought another huge undefeated killer in Chico when he was way bigger then him? I cant believe people dont talk about this. Those other 3 pussies have no reason not to fight him and they wont. He's not avoided, there just pussies and people let it slide

I dont mean ripped off by watching the fight. No doubt it will be a great fight to see but my point is that theres probally a 90% chance that both of them perform in a way where the media and there fans will be calling them the best and most avoided guys in boxing. Its just like Margarito losing to Santos and then Williams but everyone still sweats him. He'll lose that same way to Cotto and will get sweated even more. Whatever happened to a guy having to win fights to get boosted? Or Cotto loses a tough war to Margarito and then everyone will go crazy over them both because Cotto showed how bad he is in the war against the tough SOB and Margarito won so that proves how great he is. Its a setup. WOW talk about over analyzing shit. So according to you their is nobody good, only overrated over hyped guys? Margarito lost early in his career like Marquez/Pac Man. Margarito lost a close decision to Paul Williams who is the new #1Most feared man in the welterweight division. Margarito is real contender and so is Cotto. If they fight i can see FOTY because of their styles.You can rest assure that if they fight they will lose years of their career that night. The moment PPV is annouced for Cotto vs Margarito i will buy it.

If athletes aren't playing for their fans and fighters aren't fighting for their fans.. then who exactly are they fighting for? and just who exactly is Mayweather without his fans? They pay his checks after all.. The thread starter is a douche.. clown, my point is that fans always bitch about money like they wouldnt be doing the same fuckin thing. I hate it when fans do that. It makes them sound like fools. Everyone bitches about atheltes and how they are millionares while the common man just makes chump change. They say that if they were making millions then they wouldnt be trying to hold out for more money but thats garbage. The fact is everyone wants to get as much as they can because you cant have this job forever. My brother even makes me sick. Dude is the most selfish/greediest guy in the world and he has the nerve to always get mad when ball players hold out for more money when there already making millions. He is the same exact way. 1st my brother had nothing and now he's got a buisness where he makes a ton of money. He doesnt make NBA money but he doesnt make common man money either. He makes way more then the common man and guess what? He always is bitching and trying to get more money. Its the same thing he was doing when he was broke. Now if your in the Pros then its the same thing. Sure your making millions but theres another guy who isnt anywhere near as good as you and he's making 5mil more. Your not going to try to get that 5? Everyone would do it. Its just hating. Stop hating on guys. Your a fool if you dont go for the money. Floyd could fight Clottey right now and get KO in the 4th round. Then where would he be? He will have just let a 20mil fight go down the drain. Now he is 20 mil less richer and has a loss. Get your money while you can

By the way Bmore... one thing I have noticed about you... You seem to be all or nothing when it comes to these arguments. You can't take partial concessions... You still think I should denounce Floyd and everything he has done. Anyways, no matter what arguments Floyd fans can come up with to justify this fight... I really don't see an argument why this fight should take precedence over Mayweather-Cotto. We all know why it is happening, but there is no way it should. I still like Floyd, I still think he is a great fighter, and now I think that he isn't doing all he can to show that he indeed is. To be honest, I am wondering how much of the first fight was set up... I am seriously wondering if they had it planned out that one of the judges gave a seemingly clear victory for Mayweather to De La Hoya in order to make it look a hell of a lot closer than it was. I'm not all or nothing, I myself want to see the fight but can admit that it should not happen. It really isnt a matter of partial concessions or not. What is there to concede? Either Floyd is ducking Cotto or he isnt. I think that fight's official scoring made sense. It all depended on whether the judges thought mayweather was landing punches or not.

So fighting for the most money automatically = fear? Did Mosley duck Tszyu? Both he and De La Hoya were legit badass when he was at 135. De La Hoya didn't have a belt though. Was Mosley scared of Tszyu? Lying in order to avoid a fight = fear. No idea about Mosley and Tszyu.

If athletes aren't playing for their fans and fighters aren't fighting for their fans.. then who exactly are they fighting for? and just who exactly is Mayweather without his fans? They pay his checks after all.. The thread starter is a douche..

By the way Bmore... one thing I have noticed about you... You seem to be all or nothing when it comes to these arguments. You can't take partial concessions... You still think I should denounce Floyd and everything he has done. Anyways, no matter what arguments Floyd fans can come up with to justify this fight... I really don't see an argument why this fight should take precedence over Mayweather-Cotto. We all know why it is happening, but there is no way it should. I still like Floyd, I still think he is a great fighter, and now I think that he isn't doing all he can to show that he indeed is. To be honest, I am wondering how much of the first fight was set up... I am seriously wondering if they had it planned out that one of the judges gave a seemingly clear victory for Mayweather to De La Hoya in order to make it look a hell of a lot closer than it was.

K....are you Leonard Ellerbe or part of his team? If you are...fair enough. But if you're not...how about a big glass of SHUT THE FUCK UP. Look, bud. I am a fight fan, not just a fighter of a certain fighter. What does this mean? I like fighting, and i like to see the best fight the best. Purely for my own entertainment reasons. This Oscar - Floyd fight is a fucking fraud. Oscar hasn't been a contender for the last 4 or 5 years. He hasn't moved his way up the ranks, he hasn't fought challengers...he's a phony fraud who is still living off of his name and good looks. I have to give Floyd because he has fought the man at pretty much every division. Minus Tszyu and maybe Casamayor/Freitas early in his career...he has pretty much fought everyone. But this fight...from a fans point of view...is bogus. The first fight was a fix and a SPARRING MATCH. Everyone knows it. Both of these fighters didn't fight like winners. They fought pretty much exactly like they are. Millionaires who dont need to fight any more. Guys who fight because of greed. Oscar is the star of boxing and has earned the right to do this wether you like it or not. I love how guys always try to play Oscar like he's a chump. Thats the only thing that makes me mad about this fight. I bet he would still either beat or nearly beat anyone in that WW division besides Floyd and you know it. I wish he would fight one of them just to get people to shut up 1st about this fight. Everyone on this board was just sweating Mayorga and Oscar decpaitated him in the fight before Floyd. The Oscar who fought Floyd wouldve gave Williams, Cotto, Cintron, Clottey, and Margarito hell that night. Stop acting like he's a bum because you know he's far from that. He's the star and the money machine so he has a right to call his shots. How can you talk bad about how Floyd fights? I think its so funny that people only remember the 2 back to back fights Floyd had with Oscar & Baldy. Thats all they remember so they rip him for the way he fights. Before those 2 fights he had 6 straight fights where he was all action. He KO 4 of them very early, dropped Chop twice, and may have stopped Zab if it wasnt for the low blow. Then after the Oscar fight he KO's Hatton. Stop dissing the way he fights. Its no coincedence that those 2 boring fights were against by far the biggest guys he ever fought while he looked like a skinny boy. Im not saying that I want to see this fight because I really dont but I completely understand it and I also think it will be way more entertaining then the 1st fight because neither guy would show the other the same respect. Oscar will definatly press him more and get very physical in this fight. Floyd was scared of the 154 pound weight and didnt know if he could handle it. Now he knows that Oscar cant really hurt him and would have no fear of him this time. Both guys would open up more