Pretty Boy Floyd Mayweather Jr. without a doubt. If Marquez's technicall skills were as good as Floyd's, he'd be in the Top 2 p4p. Losing to unknown opponents like Chris John doesn't help his cause either.
That's not at all what technical means. What are you 8?no, i'm nine. but seriously, did you have to insult me just because your opinion is diff. than mine? he has one of the best defense, he can easily makes you miss and easily land a punch of his own. if you're too big for him, he simply breaks you down until your body gives in. he is very accurate with his punches. he likes to potshot and just when you think he's gonna throw a single punch he throws 2, 3, and 4 accurate combinations.
Yeah let's remember, Floyd doesn't use many jabs. His speed lets him get away with many right hand leads and shots that you'd normally setup with the jab. Also, anyone else tired of hearing people say checkhook just because Floyd mentioned it in the interview after Hatton fight? It's so annoying.
God yes!!! They act as if it's some divine punch.
Actually technical is setting your shit up with the jab, keeping your hands up... basically winning fights without athletic ability.
Keep in mind that technicality is not the be-all end-all of boxing. It is merely the easiest way to hit your opponent, but if a fighter can do it another way due to his athleticism, then he is probably more effective in doing so.
Yeah let's remember, Floyd doesn't use many jabs. His speed lets him get away with many right hand leads and shots that you'd normally setup with the jab. Also, anyone else tired of hearing people say checkhook just because Floyd mentioned it in the interview after Hatton fight? It's so annoying.
You guys are so smoking. I admit that Im a Floyd fan but Im also a JMM fan and to me this isnt even close. What are all of you talking about? Floyd isnt that technical? Floyd is just all speed? Floyd's Offensive arsenal isnt that good?
Dude is one of the most complete fighters ever. How can JMM be more technical? 1st off he gets tagged clean way way way way more then Floyd. He always gets his nose busted up. 2nd, name one thing Floyd cant do? You cant hit the guy. On O JMM fights in a technical style while Floyd has more speed but that still doesnt make him more technical.
Floyd's O is so underrated on these boards. To me he's by far the most complete offenisve fighter in the game. He's the only guy that jabs to the body, his hooks are awesome, he has maybe the best straight right in the buisness, he can throw a check hook, his body game is severly underrated, and he has more power then people give him credit for.
I think its so dumb when people say that Floyd is based off all speed. How can you say that? Thats what seperates him from a guy like RJ. If Floyd lost his speed then he would still be the most technical fighter in the game. He gives you no openings and he can punch from any angle. He's great at a distance and in the pocket. You guys make it sound like he's some flashy guy like Zab. He's not. Dude is all substance with speed as the icing on the cake. He's very techniqal
Anyone who says Floyd is all speed is a fool. But if you were teaching child or young kid to box, you would show him Marquez rather than Floyd. Marquez goes by the book. Not everyone has the physical ability and overall capabilities that Floyd has to make the style he uses work.
Running around the ring flicking out a jab for 12 rounds? I think not. Marquez throws every punch in the book and does so with expert precision.
Cory sets up the straight left with the jab. I can't imagine anything more technical than running your offense on the 1-2.
Cory Spinks vs. JMM would be a good technical discussion.
Cory fights exactly by the book too.
Running around the ring flicking out a jab for 12 rounds? I think not. Marquez throws every punch in the book and does so with expert precision.
technical is when you hit your opponent and not getting hit in return. marquez is hittable. it's floyd handsdown
Actually technical is setting your shit up with the jab, keeping your hands up... basically winning fights without athletic ability.
Keep in mind that technicality is not the be-all end-all of boxing. It is merely the easiest way to hit your opponent, but if a fighter can do it another way due to his athleticism, then he is probably more effective in doing so.
technical is when you hit your opponent and not getting hit in return. marquez is hittable. it's floyd handsdownThat's not at all what technical means. What are you 8?
Marquez can be seen as more technical, but I think he is more “textbook”, if you know what I mean.
Mayweather is possibly the best strategist (surely one of the best) I have seen in the ring on a color TV. His natural advantages are not as huge as Jones or Pea, but he makes up for it with his incredible awareness and smartness.
I think if it served his purposes, PBf could fight like JMM, but not the other way round.
Not a bad post. I'd give JMM the textbook edge as you would, but that doesn't mean he is more technical or strategic, in fact I'd give the edge to Floyd there handily.
Textbook: JMM
Strategic: Floyd
Talking about Juan Manuel Marquez here.technical is when you hit your opponent and not getting hit in return. marquez is hittable. it's floyd handsdown
You guys are so smoking. I admit that Im a Floyd fan but Im also a JMM fan and to me this isnt even close. What are all of you talking about? Floyd isnt that technical? Floyd is just all speed? Floyd's Offensive arsenal isnt that good?
Dude is one of the most complete fighters ever. How can JMM be more technical? 1st off he gets tagged clean way way way way more then Floyd. He always gets his nose busted up. 2nd, name one thing Floyd cant do? You cant hit the guy. On O JMM fights in a technical style while Floyd has more speed but that still doesnt make him more technical.
Floyd's O is so underrated on these boards. To me he's by far the most complete offenisve fighter in the game. He's the only guy that jabs to the body, his hooks are awesome, he has maybe the best straight right in the buisness, he can throw a check hook, his body game is severly underrated, and he has more power then people give him credit for.
I think its so dumb when people say that Floyd is based off all speed. How can you say that? Thats what seperates him from a guy like RJ. If Floyd lost his speed then he would still be the most technical fighter in the game. He gives you no openings and he can punch from any angle. He's great at a distance and in the pocket. You guys make it sound like he's some flashy guy like Zab. He's not. Dude is all substance with speed as the icing on the cake. He's very techniqal
Marquez can be seen as more technical, but I think he is more “textbook”, if you know what I mean.
Mayweather is possibly the best strategist (surely one of the best) I have seen in the ring on a color TV. His natural advantages are not as huge as Jones or Pea, but he makes up for it with his incredible awareness and smartness.
I think if it served his purposes, PBf could fight like JMM, but not the other way round.very good assessment!
It's ashame we couldn't find out how PBF would be if he had no speed because that's what makes him who he is. I think his style would be highly defensive based if he had no speed because he's offensive is made up of his speed. Marquez is just defense/offense equally and mixes both up well. He can play defense well if he likes which usually turns into his amazing counter punching, or he can go on the offense and land great combinations.
I would say JMM. You look at most of the Nacho Beristain fighters and they are technical as well. PBF has great ability and can do things other fighters can't do and he gets away with it because he is gifted and boxing smart.
Yes, I agree PBF could fight more like JMM if he chose to and as a matter of fact he was doing it against Zab Judah for much of the fight. What really amazed me was that Judah actually out boxed PBF 3 out of the 10 rounds despite using a defective style. In my view Judah is probably the most talented boxer in the world, but far from the best. I have no doubt that JMM would probably beat Judah despite the size difference. Better discipline and better technique would win in the end.
Judah has speed and pop to sell, on top of that he is a southpaw. But as I was saying referring to PBF. The brain makes the difference.