Warren "I'll retire from boxing if Haye ever beats Maccarinelli" -2006

i think this'll be alot closer than people think, but i still say Haye will win

Can I just point out a few factors: 1: Macca's Level of opposition so far.... He has beaten NOBODY of WORTH at EURO LEVEL or WORLD LEVEL. 2. Macca's best win was over an INACTIVE tired Braithwaite who has lost 3 of his last 4. Also one of these defeats was a KO LOSS to Mormeck. An old inactive Braithwaite gave Macca all he could handle for 12 rounds ....Macca was blowing like an old man too. How will he cope with a very active YOUNG 27 yr old Haye who also happens to have a decent Amateur career? 3. Macca was spanked by Lee Swaby... Haye's big loss was to a SOLID VETERAN Carl "The Cat" Thompson who was renowned for taking heavy punishment and coming back strong and he was out on his feet back then ....NEVER KO'ed and very Inexperienced. 4. Back to level of opposition. Haye has sparked out Gurov for the Euro title and Mormeck for the GENUINE WORLD TITLE. He also moved up and wasted Bonin inside a round....a guy who Fraudley Harrison struggled with for 9 rounds and got a very dubious stoppage. Haye stopped this guy legit. So far Haye is Proven. Macca is nothing close. He is lucky that the Brit factor is there! are you kidding me? Enzo has little respect as it is, he deserves a lot more, I'm still curious as to why you think David Haye is so good? his power is very strong however his defence is awful, his chin is also weak, so with a weak chin and bad defence ans going up against a powerful boxer like enzo? come on....

I'm not sure what the line opened at, but as it stands right now. Haye: -200 Maccarinelli: +160 The vegas odds don't reflect who oddsmakers think will win, as much as it reflects who oddsmakers think the PUBLIC thinks will win. So I wouldn't let the Vegas odds blind you as to who you think wins the fight. Boxing underdogs win all the time.

I think Macrinelli is the better boxer out of the two. Factor in that Haye will fade late in the fight if we are to believe his weight problems. Macca is not so hard to hit. Haye could KO Macca in the first round, or dead early he is a good,fast puncher. If we get to round 6, Macca is going to win. This is a geniune 50/50.

Enzo got this round 5

I've seen loads of Maccaranellis fights, i think Haye's going to win because he has beaten the better fighters and has very good head movement. He should be able to get his hands away pretty early if Macca comes to fight and Macca is going to get knocked out stone cold

Haye to win inside 6 Haye has mixed with far better opposition than Macrenelli and has a far bigger punch, he has something like 19 KO's from 20 wins. I also think Haye doesn`t have as bad a chin as people make out. His loss to Carl Thompson was more conditioning than chin related, yes Mormeck buzzed him but he did slip which made it look worse than it really was.

I have seen plenty of both and i think Haye will win Me too but its closer than many think. Macca is very dangerous and if Haye hangs his chin out as he tends to do at times then he will be KO'd however...I expect Haye to come in cautiously and out box Macca early on before forcing a late stoppage.

there arent a whole lot of people here who understand odds, much less inform themselves on specific fights that why idiots put up even points on fights like klitschko/ibragimov and jones/trinidad Actually they do so because IT ISN'T REAL MONEY.

I think it was fucking stupid of Frank to come out with a statement like that, even if you fancy Enzo to win it and you are a rabid fan of his, you have to factor Haye's massive punching power into the equation - and he's a lot more than a puncher's chance merchant. In a fight whose result basically hinges on who gets the big bomb through first, Franks putting his dick on the chopping board

what odds are people actually checking to say this is a 50/50 fight? because its not. there arent a whole lot of people here who understand odds, much less inform themselves on specific fights that why idiots put up even points on fights like klitschko/ibragimov and jones/trinidad

what odds are people actually checking to say this is a 50/50 fight? because its not.

lmfao, cya frank

There are two reasons why 90% of the people are picking Haye: 1. They've seen him fight but not Macca. 2. He's black. Maccarinelli is a better boxer and just as good a finisher. That coupled with Haye's struggle to make weight, Macca KO's him inside 10, but I'll say 6. I've seen him fight a few times, but it's hard to get excited by wins over Hobson, Gunn and that Algerian guy he busted up recently.

macc'as braithwaite performacne was good but braithwaite wasnt with it.

I'm picking David Haye based on natural talent and quality of opposition. Maccarinelli's career has been an exercise in Frank Warren's ability to feed a fighter some homecooking en route to a sterling record. Mac is big, but he's been eating a lot of smaller fish, like Braithwaite and Bobby Gunn. What would've given Mac some credibility would've been a fight with O'Neil Bell, who is a legit 200 pounder.

Where is the article for the title of this thread????? Who comes up with this shit?

I've only seen one of his fights, and he looked like shit. Anyone have some of his good performances? He's a good fighter but not been in with many decent opposition but neither has haye, mac is the better boxer and if he can stay compact and not go all out for the KO he'll be in good stead, I just fancy haye to be too fast and powerful for him.

There are two reasons why 90% of the people are picking Haye: 1. They've seen him fight but not Macca. 2. He's black. Maccarinelli is a better boxer and just as good a finisher. That coupled with Haye's struggle to make weight, Macca KO's him inside 10, but I'll say 6. I've only seen one of his fights, and he looked like shit. Anyone have some of his good performances?

i was just about to say the same thing, the sportsbook says this is an even money fight. ill take the oddsmakers over the uninformed boxingscene opinion every single time Aye mate its 50/50 this fight they both stay in range and can both bang.