Who was the least marketable fighter of all time?

Hitler Von Wifepunch.

The sad part is that they won't, because they were unsanctioned they will never "count". If they did count in the eyes of boxing officials I'm sure McGinty would be in the top 5, maybe even above Pep. Anorak saw some footage of one of his fights at a private screening and he told me the man was amazing. WTF?!? It's like that rare Greb footage that I never saw.. amazing. I thought that SURELY there wasn't any remaining footage of the guy.. if any was made in the first place. I'm gonna PM that guy...

Yup... I think the thing that proves his unmarketability is the way in which history has forgotten the man. I never even saw a pic of him until I read that Bert Sugar article in his old mag. But yeah- boxrec should really try and ig around to see if they can compile a record out of all those unsanctioned fights. If any of those people are alive... lol. The sad part is that they won't, because they were unsanctioned they will never "count". If they did count in the eyes of boxing officials I'm sure McGinty would be in the top 5, maybe even above Pep. Anorak saw some footage of one of his fights at a private screening and he told me the man was amazing.

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I'm surprised he wasn't murdered. He often spoke about blacks being "equal" in terms of fighters and as people. Back in the 1920's you just didn't say that shit. And to actually fight as many black guys as he did? I'm surprised he wasn't killed honestly. Plus you have to factor in his weight (lightweight) and lightweights just weren't popular back then. His record is fucking amazing though. 127-11-9 (98 KO's) Yup... I think the thing that proves his unmarketability is the way in which history has forgotten the man. I never even saw a pic of him until I read that Bert Sugar article in his old mag. But yeah- boxrec should really try and ig around to see if they can compile a record out of all those unsanctioned fights. If any of those people are alive... lol.

Also wasn't he not included in boxrec because he fought too many black fighters in unsanctioned matches? So I think that technically he was unmarketable in that era... but right now he'd probably be a big seller. Controversy was why he was unmarketable, back then. I'm surprised he wasn't murdered. He often spoke about blacks being "equal" in terms of fighters and as people. Back in the 1920's you just didn't say that shit. And to actually fight as many black guys as he did? I'm surprised he wasn't killed honestly. Plus you have to factor in his weight (lightweight) and lightweights just weren't popular back then. His record is fucking amazing though. 127-11-9 (98 KO's)

As far as top guys who had the ability to actually be the top guy in there respective weight class I would say Winky-Bernard and Ruiz were probably teh least marketable.

Smelled like one too...

John Ruiz. A hairy fat middleweight crossed with a limpet. Ruiz just looked like a straight up bum.

John Ruiz. A hairy fat middleweight crossed with a limpet.

I have to second the vote for McGinty. The guy has even been blacklisted from boxrec and wikipedia due to the controversy he created. Also wasn't he not included in boxrec because he fought too many black fighters in unsanctioned matches? So I think that technically he was unmarketable in that era... but right now he'd probably be a big seller. Controversy was why he was unmarketable, back then.

I have to second the vote for McGinty. The guy has even been blacklisted from boxrec and wikipedia due to the controversy he created.

I'm going to add Pernell Whitaker. Despite all of his amateur and professional accomplishments, his style and public persona were so devoid of entertainment value IMO that he couldn't have sold tit mags in prison.

Yeah, I agree. HBO gave it a try though. The Boxing Banker:rolleyes:... Who ever came up with that should be fed to Pirhana

not of all time but hard to market is Calvin Brock. Yeah, I agree. HBO gave it a try though.

Yeah, I think you must be right because I don't have a clue who that guy is. Why is/was he so unmarketable though? Exactly.....But he's due for a Punjabi prison match with Tarver. I agree with Welter out of the big names HBO/Showtime main event type fighters i'd say Byrd and Ruiz.

Jack Johnson. Thread closed. Well, everyone wanted to see Jack get beat after he won the title. So people would pay to watch him for that fact alone.

not of all time but hard to market is Calvin Brock.

Darren Allen Yeah, I think you must be right because I don't have a clue who that guy is. Why is/was he so unmarketable though?

Tough question.. as each era had different goings on away from boxing that would affect the way things were marketed.. In my Generation.. John Ruiz...