Is De La Hoya A Choker?

^^^^^^^^ I gotta agree with this post right here! Extremely valid point!

Comparing Oscar's wins over JCC, Witaker, Camacho: Hector Camacho's two wins over Roberto Duran and a win over Sugar Ray Leonard considered great wins?

Those guys were well past their primes and , in general, above their best weights. Nice NAMES. But not great wins. Past their primes? Check Above best weights? Check for some Great wins? Check. The three are not mutually exclusive. All of those boxers were tough HOF level fighters even when oscar faced them.

I don't consider him a choker. I had him winning against Trinidad, even with him giving up the last 3 rounds. He beat Mosley the second time pretty clearly but the decision went to Mosley.

He didn't choke. It's hard to say he choked when he won the last round. That means he didn't get tired, either. The reason his jab disappeared is due to Mayweather's style. PBF made him fight that way. A desperate fighter doesn't think of using his jab. Oscar knew he was behind and started fighting a different style. It's the same in football. When one team falls behind, they abandon the running game and take it to the air. When boxers fall too far behind, they start swinging for the fences. That's what happened to Oscar. BTW, I don't think it was a close fight. That's the least close Majority Decision I've ever seen. Chuck Giampa knew what he was doing. He didnt throw any punches for like 3 rounds straight. Thats called tired, not "another style".

September 18th 1999, In De La Hoya's fight against Trinidad, he was clearly taking Trinidad to school, giving him a boxing lesson.Outboxing him, and giving him a real good beating. Even his trainers were so convinced of his performance, they told him he had the fight won. Come the 10th, 11th and 12th round, and Oscar is content dancing around the ring, letting Trinidad chase him and beating him to the punch in all 3 rounds, in the end giving Trinidad the victory. May 5th 2007, Oscar is winning the earlier rounds, but later on abandons his jab, and in the end gives the fight away in a very very close fight. Whats with Oscar's tendency to give fights away? Does he have trouble putting his opponents away. That would have been 2 fights he could have EASILY won that could have catapulted his status into an ATG, and proved to everyone how elite a fighter he could have been. watch the may 5th fight and tell me if he almost won, what a fucking joke.

Those guys were well past their primes and , in general, above their best weights. Nice NAMES. But not great wins. DLH wasnt past his prime when getting beat by PBF? Gatti???...lol. Baldomir?...lol. Hatton?...lol Judah?...lol A "win is a win" according to you guys. So i dont see how why there has to be double standards.

As we say in the Army...."People distinguish themselves by going "ABOVE AND BEYOND". That means not being mediocre, or an average Joe. De La Hoya was content with cruising to a "Decision" over Trinidad. I saw Tito trying to go Above and Beyond, and KO Oscar. The knod goes to Trinidad.

He didn't choke. It's hard to say he choked when he won the last round. That means he didn't get tired, either. The reason his jab disappeared is due to Mayweather's style. PBF made him fight that way. A desperate fighter doesn't think of using his jab. Oscar knew he was behind and started fighting a different style. It's the same in football. When one team falls behind, they abandon the running game and take it to the air. When boxers fall too far behind, they start swinging for the fences. That's what happened to Oscar. BTW, I don't think it was a close fight. That's the least close Majority Decision I've ever seen. Chuck Giampa knew what he was doing.

He totally pussied out of the Trinidad fight, i used to worship the dude until he started making lame pop records and letting his wife decide who he fights. Without a shadow of a doubt he started running from Tito as he thought the fight was won and didn't want to open himself up to a lucky KO from FT. Tito deserved that win because he had a set of balls like all boxers should.

NO. All 3 were past their primes. Like I said he has NO meaningful wins. Vargas???...lol. Mayorga???...lol. He lost to Tito...Hopkins....lil Floyd...Mosley twice. this is how much of a fucking idiot you are. you really couldnt see how that was a trap moron? DLH wasnt past his prime when getting beat by PBF? Gatti???...lol. Baldomir?...lol. Hatton?...lol Judah?...lol And you wonder why your mother hates you and why you're one of the least respected members of this forum.

Whitaker too in my book.

Hes a failure....he has no meaningful wins. JCC, Pernell Whitaker, Hector Camacho arent meaningful wins?

He has many meaningful wins. Don't let DLH's choice in body fishnets convince you otherwise. He's just failed on many basic goals I know he had set for himself. He's never choked. That would be a complete crushing and humiliation. The closest I've seen DLH totally choke was against Hops and that was just a one shot KO. Not a sustained clowning causing a 'choke'. And even that was an after effect babyfit of pounding the canvas.

That isn't choking, that's just failure.

i would not go that far.

September 18th 1999, In De La Hoya's fight against Trinidad, he was clearly taking Trinidad to school, giving him a boxing lesson.Outboxing him, and giving him a real good beating. Even his trainers were so convinced of his performance, they told him he had the fight won. Come the 10th, 11th and 12th round, and Oscar is content dancing around the ring, letting Trinidad chase him and beating him to the punch in all 3 rounds, in the end giving Trinidad the victory. May 5th 2007, Oscar is winning the earlier rounds, but later on abandons his jab, and in the end gives the fight away in a very very close fight. Whats with Oscar's tendency to give fights away? Does he have trouble putting his opponents away. That would have been 2 fights he could have EASILY won that could have catapulted his status into an ATG, and proved to everyone how elite a fighter he could have been. What he did against Trini isnt choking because he decided not to try. He plain just ran. Against Mayweather though, I guess he did choke because he had a working game and just lost his concentration.