To convert to Floydism.

I liked floyd for a while, but his mouth did eventually get to me. Also, his level of competition has not been stellar. I give him his dues for this past weekend, but Ricky at 140 would have been a better fight, De la Hoya 6-8 years ago would have been better, Judah was a headcase when he fought Floyd, Baldomir got lucky in that judah was a headcase and wasnt any where near floyds level (though i understand taking this fight for the linear championship), and Gatti... well, we all saw what Alfonso Gomez did to him. I dont mind the arrogant bit (though i prefer confidence), but i am tired of the Money Mayweather bit. I think we can all agree that PPV and big money has turned the sport we love to shit. It was happening even back in the '50's. Im reading a book now called the sweet science, a collection of boxing articles by a journalist from the 50s and he talks about how the huge money, and on tv fights are killing the sport. So, Floyd, stop throwing money at the camera. it makes you look like a Neanderthal. Also, step up your competion. fight guys that have moved to your weightclass permanently, not just moved there to fight you. fight guys that arent almost a decade out of their prime. fight guys that dont fall apart in the middle of fights. fight Cotto, fight margarito, fight williams, fight cintron, fight clottey, fight one of they guys that are mentioned on this board as being the best competition at 147lbs. The only people on this board that were calling for a Hatton/ PBF fight were the hatton fans. no one else on here thought he had a chance in hell against you (until HBO worked their magic on us with 24/7).

Ringo good post.. Hes a legit poster. he post more often in the training section than here.. theres less idiots there..

I retire every evening and unretire every morning. Floyd and I live in the moment.

You know, people can say what they want about his big mouth, but the fact is, before he started being a jackass, he wasn't making this kind of money. Not even close. You can say that the De La Hoya fight drew the fans because of Oscar (which is certainly what I thought), but he did huge numbers this time too. Gatti wasn't long ago, and I'm pretty sure that was his first PPV and he was on the p4p list way before that.

Floyds hole record is dominated by flat footed latin fighters with no hand speed or foot speed. How can this guy even be considered great when the closses guy he has fought to him talent wise is a washed up Zab Juda and he was lossing that fight until Zab ran out of gas. He can't even be considered in the same class as guys like Ray Robinson, Ray leonard, Thomas Hearns, Meldrick Taylor, Pernel Whitiker. Chavez, Duran, Benitez, Henry Armstrong, Willie Pep, Sugar Shane Mosely, Arron Pryor, Alexis Aurgreullo, Boom Boom Mancini and the list goes on and on these guys fought everybody out there between 4 or 5 weight classes from Lightwieght to Light heavyweight Maywheather has hand picked his apponents his hole career .......... you cats are brain washed. Do your boxing history he's not even fighting the best out there now......... "OVERATED"

I'd rather convert to Islam than Floydism. Radical Floydism teaches that if you die in the name of Floyd, you get anything your heart desires in after-life. Fly planes into the Mandalay Bay.

am i gonna have to uncircumsize myself?

Personally, I think hating any fighter is pretty pathetic. Also, Floyd isn't retiring. And even if he does keep retiring and coming back, how does that effect you? It's not like he dissed you or something. Is it because you're a Gatti fan?

Dude, it is the other way around. Floyd is losing fans by fighting Baldomir and Hatton.

We have a lot of people around here who hate Money's guts, and a lot who want to swing from his shorthairs. But we also have people who sit on the fence. Personally, I stay on the "I hate him" side, but lean on the fence a little. I was thinking yesterday about what Floyd would have to do, in my book, to go down as a true all-timer of the sport, and I'm interested to know what some people who DON'T like Floyd would need as well. Please, if you DO love Floyd and believe that he rested on the seventh day, post something intelligent, not "OMG DOODZ HE'S ALRDY L337," or some derivative. For me, first he'd have to drop the act. There is plenty he could say and plenty of ways to promote without being an uberdouche to his opponents and his opponents' fans BEFORE the fight. Second he'd have to erase the doubt about ducking people. If he wants to fight the best and go down as a great, he needs to say outright, "look, the best guys need to fight each other and then the better man can fight me." He's the best right now, I give him that. But everyone wants him to fight somebody. If he stepped up and fought a few contenders then we run out of arguments against him. Third he'd have to stop talking about his greatness. Speaking about how he can execute his gameplan because of good training, about being in great shape because he worked hard, fine. But talking about hanging them up and being the best in history and being better than fighter XXXX is just ridiculous. Last time I checked, when a boxer goes into the IBHOF HE doesn't get to vote on himself. Last he needs some consistency. For a guy who is like clockwork with his training and religious with his approach to boxing - the retirement shit is getting old. Whats wrong with saying, "Look, I just got done fighting and I feel great, but I'm in good shape and I don't know yet if there will be a fight that will attract me on the horizon." Yes, I know thats what he said in a nutshell, but saying "I'm going to retire from boxing, its not going to retire me, I have 20931 digits in the bank, I'm going to retire, there's nothing left to prove, blah blah blah." Any time the person proving something says there is nothing left to prove - there is always something left to prove. If he managed to do these things in the "twilight" of his career (according to him), then I might actually have a real respect for him by the time he actually hung up the gloves. As it is - I'm holding out. He was humble and appreciative at the END of his fight with Hatton, but thats his typical MO. If it carries over to the build-up to his next fight, then I'll be impressed. Thats just me, and I'm sure there are other things. Anyone else have anything? Good post. I highlighted the things I think are important(and all interconnected) and also add 1 more thing: Dirty fighter with a dirty mouth.

No way am I reading all that shit. The thread being titled "To convert to Floydism" is sick.