Second opinion on Paul Williams

Williams a better boxer than Hearns? Whoever said that should start watching more Hearns fights, better yet go back and watch Hearns VS Leonard.

Man... this thread was a gem! Paul Williams >>> Tommy Hearns. Just look back on the second page! actually he's better then hearns, he's a better boxer and throws 3 times more punches a round, and unlike hearns he has a chin to go along with it. he also has way better angles and footwork

Trust me on this one, Floyd beats Williams and Cotto as well as Margarito. There isnt a fighter from 154 down that beats Floyd. One can only hope that Mayweather comes back, and tries to prove it. As far as PWill, I like him. Alot. He just keeps on fighting....

Man... this thread was a gem! Paul Williams >>> Tommy Hearns. Just look back on the second page!

i think he should fight oscar like oscar said on free tv.that would be more exposure,but of course you would have floyd fans saying"it wasn't even on ppv,hahaha floyd brought all the people into to see the fight hahahaha"fan boyd man.predictable as always .

I used to think this guy was great, but I just rewatched his fight against Sharmba Mitchell, and it made me reconsider. Mitchell was physically dominated by Mayweather, who is a small welterweight. He is too small/short to be fighting at 147, and he is a bit over-the-hill... although I think that everyone gives him a lot less credit than he deserves... an old fighter moving up to fight against prospects usually do a lot worse. Anyways, Mitchell actually made quite a bit on contact on Williams, which obviously didn't phase him, because he has such a great chin (which he didn't even need against Mitchell)... It also seems to be a problem if someone relies on outworking their opponent as an A strategy, because the perfect counter to that seems to be defense. So his two main fights could pose serious problems for him. Mayweather has the defense, which means he might be able to beat him. Also, his arms are measured at 26 inches (in arm length, not wingspan, the statistic that is actually important for comparing reach), which is the same as Mayweather's. I think Mayweather would have a lot less problems with Williams than most think (because some are predicting a wipeout for Williams). On the other side of the coin, Miguel Cotto hits hard as hell, and has some good technique to go along with it now. We all know that Williams has a hell of a chin, but his body really hasn't been tested. Cotto's body shots do a ton of damage, and it could end up that he gets dropped for the count because of the body shots. The other advantage to body shots is that they sap the energy of an opponent, meaning that if the body shots do take their toll on Williams, he will have a hard time throwing a zillion punches, which means that Cotto would start racking up the rounds. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Williams hasn't shown the the technique to outslick an opponent if need be. All of this being said, it isn't a sure deal that any fighter wins any of these fights. I still don't know who I would pick for either of these two fights for Williams if either were ever signed. Thoughts? Not sure about Cotto-Williams, but I'm convinced that Williams is a harder fight for Mayweather than Cotto is. Williams' work rate is just unmatched, he is awkward, lanky, and he has a good jab and boxing skills. Going to the body and punching hard are elementary attributes that don't win you fights and this is the problem with people trying to predict ways to beat Floyd Mayweather. The only way I can seemingly predict a Floyd Mayweather loss is when he is at an unfair disadvantage, hence, a 6'2 Paul Williams who should be fighting at middle weight or something.

Quintana was a replacement for Cintron. De La Hoya shouldn't be in the picture.... agreed.

To be honest, it looks like Williams will be fighting Quintana, and Cotto fighting De La Hoya. No one knows what the fuck Floyd is going to do. i got a feeling cotto will fight him after oscar and his mando,i can see it.

Well I just hope Cotto fights him instead of fighting Mayweather because Cintron is already ducking him so that'll make him the odd man out To be honest, it looks like Williams will be fighting Quintana, and Cotto fighting De La Hoya. No one knows what the fuck Floyd is going to do.

He knocks guys out in 2/3rds of his fights...I agree about that Winky comment lol, and Pakau is tough as nails...I don't know how he left that ring alive, much less standing up. I don't think he can KO anybody, you're right, I just think with that kind of size and he has a decent snap to his punches, if he sat on them he could do some heavy damage...and I don't think he could KO anybody with those inside uppercuts, but they do damage. He basically brawls guys on the inside, street fight style. I just don't think Cotto could hang inside, plus he would probably get tied up Pakau's chin is actually shit... he had 2 first round KO losses before Williams (one was to a huge right hand puncher, and the other I don't know anything about). It'll be interesting to see what becomes of Paul Williams when he continues fighting great fighters (Margarito was his cherry buster in that category).

His uppercuts didn't hurt that scrub Santos Pakau, like at all. You may be right about his power being discreet, because he almost never sits down on his punches. I know someone else like that, but I already put a ban on saying his name in this thread anymore. :) So I definately know how that goes, but that still doesn't mean he can bang, unless he actually does commit to sitting down on his punches on the inside, and he hasn't seemed willing to do so. Saying he can knock anyone out is going a bit far though... he hasn't actually shown that he can, so it's kind of premature to annoint him as a KO artist if he wants to be. He killed that guy. His corner said good shit you look like Rocy out there lol. That shit was hilarious. And that fight should have been stopped well before that guy could have had nrain damage. His head was rokcing back at every shot after a while. Not sure what you classify as banging. But I will say that Williams has shown in every fight the ability to landed cleanly on the inside and look comfortable doing it.

Williams is DIRTY inside man...his uppercuts are lethal, and he has great body work...I think if he sat on his punches he could knock out anybody, but he throws volume His uppercuts didn't hurt that scrub Santos Pakau, like at all. You may be right about his power being discreet, because he almost never sits down on his punches. I know someone else like that, but I already put a ban on saying his name in this thread anymore. :) So I definately know how that goes, but that still doesn't mean he can bang, unless he actually does commit to sitting down on his punches on the inside, and he hasn't seemed willing to do so. Saying he can knock anyone out is going a bit far though... he hasn't actually shown that he can, so it's kind of premature to annoint him as a KO artist if he wants to be.

I think Cotto would have problems boxing a guy that big with that much punch output...even if he got inside Williams can bang Williams CANNOT bang. He can throw back, and probably not get hurt, but I don't think Williams is going to majorly fuck someone up on the inside. To be honest, I don't think Williams has much power, at all. It's all accumulation.

And I'm glad you know hooked on phonics bro I'm glad you know you a fool.

That's cool bro...I think his volume and size would prevent that...I think Cotto would be easier work for him then Margarito I really have no idea in my mind who Williams-Cotto would play out. I would have to do some serious thinking to mount a thought-out prediction.

Margarito hit him hard to the body a lot...and Williams still mopped him up in the 12th round...most of his fights his highest punch outputs are in the last rounds...his stamina is amazing...I think it would be hard to get a consistant body attack on him because as you said his offense is his defense and he would just tie you up anyways nah you see just because Margarito hit him to the body and it didn't really do much you can't pretend it will be the same case with Miguel, Cotto knows how to stick and move, he knows how to go to the body in a way that chops you down, Paul actually slowed down a little at the end of the Margarito fight, Tony was saying that he was thrown off by Paul's activity early on, he never faced someone who punched so fast like that and the punches didn't hurt they just came so fast he saw himself blocking more than hitting, Williams is big I'm just asking you what do you think will happen when he faces someone like Mayweather whom has the same hand reach and is shorter so he can come up underneath Paul's punches and crack him and someone like Cotto whose arms are considerably shorter but his ability to duck punches and attack the body will allow him to hit Williams in ways he's never felt, clinching with a short dude is asking to get your body torn up, I just think about the later rounds when Paul's output is no longer the same, when he starts to wear down like in the championship rounds of the Margarito fight, when he clinches a lot more, I just think about how will he respond to clean punches from someone who can actually hurt him..

I don't think much of Williams. I think Cotto will destroy him.

It was easy...winning 9-3 normally proves that...you should've listened to your mom and used those hooked on phonics tapes to your advantage I like said I won't argue with a fool because that would make me one but just prove to you that you really are a fool. Hooked on Phonics has to do with reading not math. A person can win a fight 9-3 but it could be a highly contested fight which would not be easy it just says the one person won more rounds it doesn't show the manner in which those rounds were won.

My thoughts exactly...he doesn't have to worry about Floyd's power if he dealt with Margarito's NO ONE is claiming that Floyd was going to knock Williams out. I even said in my first post that the only chance for Williams to get KO'd was by a Cotto body shot, or a plethora thereof. I just think the holes in his defense will allow Floyd and Cotto to win quite a few rounds, which would put Williams into some trouble.

Apparantly Luciano scored Wright-Soliman for Soliman. Respect to the highest degree is coming your way. We aren't even talking about Winky in this thread, quit fucking copping out on the actual argument we are having you bitch. Tieing up was very smart. I AM NOT SAYING THAT WILLIAMS DIDN'T DO WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO AGAINST MARGARITO! I am just saying that he took a lot of punishment, and that leaves a lot of questions about his defense. Accurate fighters who start early would have a better performance than Margarito for sure, unless Williams has improved from that fight. And this is my outlook on it. Margarito in my opinion is probably the biggest welterweight out there besides Williams. I mean as in power and overall phsyical strength. Marg could easily be at 154 at this stage of his career. To me there is no one's power to be feared for at welter for Williams. I do agree his defense needs vast improvement. But it not like he's so reckless with his offense that he would be out of postion and seriously hurt. Meaning he wouldn't end up like Hatton basically.