A few things about Muhammad Ali...

Don't ask this board. They'll probably get into a discusion is their favorite man Judah could move up 10 weight classes and beat him. Nah....but Calzaghe,Hatton or PBF could.

lol, nah I was just messin with Bringer cus of the other thread bout Hopkins, though he did once say I will never pray to a white god. Maybe because god's not white? :lol1:

He was black.

This infomation is good. Just need infomation about him not wanting to go into the draft and him changing his name. Also was he really racist? After I gather the info, Ima check if I can find any other valuable info and finalize and then write my paper. lol, nah I was just messin with Bringer cus of the other thread bout Hopkins, though he did once say I will never pray to a white god.

This infomation is good. Just need infomation about him not wanting to go into the draft and him changing his name. Also was he really racist? After I gather the info, Ima check if I can find any other valuable info and finalize and then write my paper. Was he a racist? No. Was his camp full of racists? You bet your ass. Angelo Dundee, Ali's beginning to end trainer, was a white Italian man from Miami. When Ali was blinded in the first Liston from linament on Liston's gloves, members of the Nation of Islam believed that Dundee had intentionally blinded Ali as part of some conspiracy. What ludicrousity. Ali was bitter, no doubt about it. As a young boy, he recalled in interviews the impact that Emmit Till's torture and lynching, plus the subsequent injustice that ensued, had on him as a person. Seeing a young boy with his eye removed for whistling at a white woman is powerful stuff to an impressionable youth. He didn't quite understand segregation, a way of life in his native Louisville, Kentucky. When he was thirsty and wanted to drink from a fountain at a department store, his mother explained that he wasn't allowed to. That had a profound effect on him. Ali had some controversial remarks many interpreted as racism. His famous quotes, about how Angel food cake is the white cake and devil's food is the chocolate cake, that can be construed as racist. I believe Ali was a mouthpiece for Elijah Muhammad's views, a puppet of sorts, who in his early 20s had no idea of how he was being used. Ali famously never had relations with a white woman, which would've made him a hypocrite of his own segregational views. He was very much a proponent of seperate but equal, and by any means necessary.

This infomation is good. Just need infomation about him not wanting to go into the draft and him changing his name. Also was he really racist? After I gather the info, Ima check if I can find any other valuable info and finalize and then write my paper.

Then came his stand against the US Govt. Ali, who had changed his name from Cassius Marcellus Clay because it was his "slave name", refused induction in Houston, TX when asked to step forward by the US Army. His reasoning? "Ain't no Vietcong ever call me ni**er." He was subsequently stripped of his title while undefeated and exiled from the sport of boxing. He was sentenced to a 5 year prison sentence, but was allowed out pending appeal. His passport was also surrendered. During that time, Ali felt the squeeze financially and was forced into selling his soul in endorsements, many of which stained his character. The heavyweight champ has no business endorsing roach spray and other nonsense. It wasn't for 3 years, when a lax Georgia commission allowed Ali to best Jerry Quarrey in a shaky outing. Ali would fight a few more times before rushing in with Joe Frazier, an undefeated heavyweight blue collar guy from Philly. It was billed as Ali's radical politics against Frazier's quiet unassuming humility. In essense, it was seen as white against black. Ali lost that fight. After beating Ali, Frazier was asked to speak in front of the Senate. Was it because he was the recognized heavyweight champ? Nope. It's because he beat Ali, who was a hate figure at that point. When they met a third time, Ali jibed Frazier as a "gorilla" and mocked his nose and lips. Ali lost favor with a lot of black fans because of that. In reality, Joe Frazier was the quintessential Southern black man, while Ali seemed to transcend everyone, including his own race. Ali finally won exoneration for his stances against the government and went from anti-hero to a figure of the establishment. Imagine that.

better to ask questions then to know everything about him cause people can go on for ages.

If you're wanting to write a great paper that has something to do with Muhammad Ali you can talk about how hated he was as a sportsfigure and man in his era for his civil rights activism. How half of the Country practically hated him his entire career, and how years later at the Olympics there wasn't a dry eye in the Nation when he lit the torch. and that he was racist..

What wasn't controversial about the young Muhammad Ali. Ali converted to Islam shortly before the first Liston fight in 1964, enlisting the services of Malcolm X. The promoters were afraid a fight between an ex-con, Liston, and a black supremacist, Ali, wouldn't sell in the still segregated south, Miami. Upon the request of promoters, Malcolm X disappeared from Ali's camp until just before the fight. Then came the rematch. Some pundits were still crying foul play and fix when the rematch took place in Lewiston, ME. The fight, which took place in a high school gymnasium, had the lowest attendance for any heavyweight title fight. The venue had to be changed when promoters were spooked by talks of Liston's mafia associates fixing the fight and a rumor that, should Liston win the fight, that members of the Nation of Islam, a radical muslim organization, would assasinate Liston. Perhaps Liston bought into the hype, as many feel he took a dive in the first round. To this day, there are more theories about "The Phantom Punch" than JFK's assasination. By that time, Ali was beginning to really stir people's feathers. Ali was proclaiming black pride, telling the establishment things like "I Don't Have to be What you want me to be," while promoting African-American seperatism. He was very much in line with Malcolm X's stance against MLK's non-violence pleas. Damn Asian.. You wrote that off the top of your head? No wonder you're such a great writer. Dead ass bro.... I know that racism was a factor also. I've never really read into Ali like that. I should have though. Also I know he was drafted or was gonna be, and he changed his name, I just don't know why he changed his name.. You can laugh, but its true.

My english teacher wants us to write a paper on a selected few people. Muhammad Ali was one of them. What was controversial about him.... I mean I wish I had some books so I can read and provide a source and what not. Sometimes the internet isn't all the best. THat's why I ask people on this forum. Ali was controversy embodied. He dodged the military draft because he didn't believe in the Vietnam war. Something he caught horrible flack over (still does), years later it turned out he was right in his judgment of the merit of the war. Talk about how people used to want to see him jailed, how half of the Country who didn't even watch boxing began to support Joe Frazier in spite of Ali. The list of material is endless. It's amazing that someone as hated as he was back in his era, is now looked upon as the single greatest sports figure of all time.

Ask away, I read "King of the World" by David Remnick and "The Authorized Biography of Muhammad Ali" by Thomas Hauser. I know a bit about Ali. I have that book. Its a great bio of Ali.

What wasn't controversial about the young Muhammad Ali. Ali converted to Islam shortly before the first Liston fight in 1964, enlisting the services of Malcolm X. The promoters were afraid a fight between an ex-con, Liston, and a black supremacist, Ali, wouldn't sell in the still segregated south, Miami. Upon the request of promoters, Malcolm X disappeared from Ali's camp until just before the fight. Then came the rematch. Some pundits were still crying foul play and fix when the rematch took place in Lewiston, ME. The fight, which took place in a high school gymnasium, had the lowest attendance for any heavyweight title fight. The venue had to be changed when promoters were spooked by talks of Liston's mafia associates fixing the fight and a rumor that, should Liston win the fight, that members of the Nation of Islam, a radical muslim organization, would assasinate Liston. Perhaps Liston bought into the hype, as many feel he took a dive in the first round. To this day, there are more theories about "The Phantom Punch" than JFK's assasination. By that time, Ali was beginning to really stir people's feathers. Ali was proclaiming black pride, telling the establishment things like "I Don't Have to be What you want me to be," while promoting African-American seperatism. He was very much in line with Malcolm X's stance against MLK's non-violence pleas.

If you're wanting to write a great paper that has something to do with Muhammad Ali you can talk about how hated he was as a sportsfigure and man in his era for his civil rights activism. How half of the Country practically hated him his entire career, and how years later at the Olympics there wasn't a dry eye in the Nation when he lit the torch.

write about his views maturing as he did, He used to spout on that the white man was the devil once upon a time lol.

Ask away, I read "King of the World" by David Remnick and "The Authorized Biography of Muhammad Ali" by Thomas Hauser. I know a bit about Ali. My english teacher wants us to write a paper on a selected few people. Muhammad Ali was one of them. What was controversial about him.... I mean I wish I had some books so I can read and provide a source and what not. Sometimes the internet isn't all the best. THat's why I ask people on this forum.

Don't ask this board. They'll probably get into a discusion is their favorite man Judah could move up 10 weight classes and beat him.

Ask away, I read "King of the World" by David Remnick and "The Authorized Biography of Muhammad Ali" by Thomas Hauser. I know a bit about Ali.