The TRUTH comes out....

You say Hop can make that statement without condemnation but what the hell do you tthink you guys are doing now? We are criticizing what he JUST SAID, and that, is condemnation.

you are a boriqua supremacist. But he keeps it brotherly.

NEWSFLASH...HOT OFF THE PREESSES. PEOPLE LIKE THIS RACIST ARE ALWAYS claimin that white people enslabved the black man from africa. andthats why modern day africa americans still hold anger towards them etc. newsflash! white people bought slaves from black people. YOUR ancestors sold them, ok????????? live with that. deal with that! and nobody in modern times wghite or black is involved in slave trade here in this country. jews dont use the holocaust as a reason to stay poor and disenfrachised do they? they stepped up they game and now look at the. indians, koreans, ****'s. mexicans aetc have comehere and propspered despite their past because they want to make it. they do what neds to be done. but way to many american blacks are behind the times. they are using slavery (brought upon by their own people to a degree. they were the emrchant, the white man was the buyer. would things be differnt if roles was reversed? of course not!!!) as the crutch tostay down. many blacks keep blacks down.not whites. think about that, put it in their and smoke it! you are a boriqua supremacist.

NEWSFLASH...HOT OFF THE PREESSES. PEOPLE LIKE THIS RACIST ARE ALWAYS claimin that white people enslabved the black man from africa. andthats why modern day africa americans still hold anger towards them etc. newsflash! white people bought slaves from black people. YOUR ancestors sold them, ok????????? live with that. deal with that! and nobody in modern times wghite or black is involved in slave trade here in this country. jews dont use the holocaust as a reason to stay poor and disenfrachised do they? they stepped up they game and now look at the. indians, koreans, ****'s. mexicans aetc have comehere and propspered despite their past because they want to make it. they do what neds to be done. but way to many american blacks are behind the times. they are using slavery (brought upon by their own people to a degree. they were the emrchant, the white man was the buyer. would things be differnt if roles was reversed? of course not!!!) as the crutch tostay down. many blacks keep blacks down.not whites. think about that, put it in their and smoke it!

What are you saying? That white people don't own marketplaces on corners? So you're saying that white people don't own corner shops? Why? Because corner shops are all owned by Indian and Pakistani people? Is that what you're saying? You racist! Best post in this whole thread! I will send karma when possible.

Stopping there. I aint the cure for racism, but unlike Isis i know that racism has been here since the begining of civilization-White men don't have a corner on the Market! What are you saying? That white people don't own marketplaces on corners? So you're saying that white people don't own corner shops? Why? Because corner shops are all owned by Indian and Pakistani people? Is that what you're saying? You racist!

Lower on what tests? Culturally biased tests set up in the exact same way no matter the educational resources available to each community built on a recognized legacy of illiteracy rooted in segregation? This is recognized federal law. To disagree with it isn't necessarily racist, but putting emphasis on it as part of a crappy argument is. It's a convenient window of opportunity to express you ill intent and vent about what you're annoyed with. But no one cares about hate mongers. Racism actually does have a lot to do with the disparity in education and how much of a government priority it is in the inner city, including the inheritance of a rotten disposition, and a lack of financial means to get into college. This has been confirmed as it's a cultural issue with African Americans that don't reflect on African immigrants not part of the American legacy. culturally biased??!!! so now 8x8 is culturally biased?? knowing where freaking texas on amap is is biased?? i am soooo sick of racists like you making excuses for the innercity black community. raise your kids!! is it culturally biased when everybody knows that in every single state in the country when you say wheres the bad neighborhood they point you to where the blacks live? how come pakistani and indian people move here and freaking flourish and kporeans and chinese too. they move here from tuff time and pull up there boot straps and they make it! but inner city blacks live here for their whole lives and they pass down the despair. make your own way like eveery single other race does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh, its culturally biased. oh people dont like us, boo hoo. why dont you ask why people are sick of inner city black kids who are among the most racist people ever. racists like you make me laugh you coward! everything is an excuse. theres always someone holding you back. there is always a reason why the black inner city youth cant do better in school but according to you its never his or his freaking parents fault!!!!! way to go. now all you do is give your race another excuse to keep living the way you do in urban areas. spread the thoughts that we as blacks should just complain and make excusses for ourselves and expect free stuff. expect to be coddled because 450 years ago our ancestors had it rough??!! what a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!! 450 years ago white people bougth slaves from black people and you hate the whites. but blacks treat other blacks brutally today and its ok with you. 450 years ago and you cant let it go. but yesterday it happened at the hands of your own and its all righteous? get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tHANK YOU. Childer are children, no matter the color. It is tragic in a way undescribable that these childred are trained by thier enviornment to become some of the monsters they do. I look at Mayweather son and see an innocense that will one day be lost. What will that kid become, what will he leave behind in this world? Regardless of what our warped freind Isis thinks, i Don't hate anyone. Truth is i spend my time fighting to support my family, not looking for people to talk down to. No matter where you come from there are problems, but when excuses are at the core of everything you believe it does not bode well for future generations. I look at the rising minority middle class and actually think it's a good thing. It's better for them, and everyone else aswell. Poverty is not a bad thing unless you choose to live in it. When a person STOPS trying to better themselves bad things start happening! Stopping there. I aint the cure for racism, but unlike Isis i know that racism has been here since the begining of civilization-White men don't have a corner on the Market!

Lower on what tests? Culturally biased tests set up in the exact same way no matter the educational resources available to each community built on a recognized legacy of illiteracy rooted in segregation? This is recognized federal law. To disagree with it isn't necessarily racist, but putting emphasis on it as part of a crappy argument is. It's a convenient window of opportunity to express you ill intent and vent about what you're annoyed with. But no one cares about hate mongers. Racism actually does have a lot to do with the disparity in education and how much of a government priority it is in the inner city, including the inheritance of a rotten disposition, and a lack of financial means to get into college. This has been confirmed as it's a cultural issue with African Americans that don't reflect on African immigrants not part of the American legacy. culturally biased??!!! so now 8x8 is culturally biased?? knowing where freaking texas on amap is is biased?? i am soooo sick of racists like you making excuses for the innercity black community. raise your kids!! is it culturally biased when everybody knows that in every single state in the country when you say wheres the bad neighborhood they point you to where the blacks live? how come pakistani and indian people move here and freaking flourish and kporeans and chinese too. they move here from tuff time and pull up there boot straps and they make it! but inner city blacks live here for their whole lives and they pass down the despair. make your own way like eveery single other race does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh, its culturally biased. oh people dont like us, boo hoo. why dont you ask why people are sick of inner city black kids who are among the most racist people ever. racists like you make me laugh you coward! everything is an excuse. theres always someone holding you back. there is always a reason why the black inner city youth cant do better in school but according to you its never his or his freaking parents fault!!!!! way to go. now all you do is give your race another excuse to keep living the way you do in urban areas. spread the thoughts that we as blacks should just complain and make excusses for ourselves and expect free stuff. expect to be coddled because 450 years ago our ancestors had it rough??!! what a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!! 450 years ago white people bougth slaves from black people and you hate the whites. but blacks treat other blacks brutally today and its ok with you. 450 years ago and you cant let it go. but yesterday it happened at the hands of your own and its all righteous? get real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The supposed lie wasn't created by any said black people since none of them came to America lying to anybody. Your vile ancestors lied to everybody else while raping and killing them. So you're suggesting that all balck people who came to the Americas came as slaves? Nobody came for the same reason as white settlers? No black people owned slaves?

I don't care who it is, everybody has at least a little racism in them, everybody. And the only thing that can bring it out of you is anger.

I'm so shocked at Hopkins remark. HE HAS NO EXCUSES ! NO REASON AT ALL FOR THAT SHIT ! I hope Joe ignores him and refuses to fight the racist scumbag ! If Hopkins was British this would get big press and finish Hopkins career ! The sport cannot allow these remarks to fly around from their top pro's.

I for one am not all that shocked to hear this, and no he isn't just sayin it to sell the fight.. the man has a bit of hate in him. Ive seen him up close and personal quite a bit and must say Hopkins is usually known as a prick in the boxing world... the guy often times punched Freddie like crazy when hitting the mitts, face, body, you name it... and NO not accidently... i guess many years of boxing takes a toll on these fighters... in very different ways on each individual. like James Toney still think he is going to be HW champion without working for it :D

I for one am not all that shocked to hear this, and no he isn't just sayin it to sell the fight.. the man has a bit of hate in him. Ive seen him up close and personal quite a bit and must say Hopkins is usually known as a prick in the boxing world... the guy often times punched Freddie like crazy when hitting the mitts, face, body, you name it... and NO not accidently... i guess many years of boxing takes a toll on these fighters... in very different ways on each individual.

The double standard forcibly puts sensitive White folks in the shoes of the Negros who lived back in the days when Whites relieved daily stress by fucking up a Black person's day with physical and verbal abuse and dared them to raise a finger or fix their mouths to defend themselves. Doesn't feel good now, does it? Shit, if Hoe Calzhagay said something similar, he would have quickly apologized, sucked some Black cock and it would have been all gravvy in a couple days. Seriously though, what kind of White person would get bent out of shape if Calzhaghay said something openly racist anyway? Either scenario would generate tons of interest for a fight between them.

Well then he should fight Wlad next. I guess it comes from the idea that if you are a african american man today a white man beating you would be reminiscent to the white slave owner beating his slave. A lot of people have that pride that tells them that "That wouldn't happen to me." I don't take it as if he thinks that he is above all white people but he is telling us that he will do anything to win over a white person.

Honestly, coming from Hopkins, it doesn't surprise me. He has proven to be a classless prick many a time before. I officially lost my respect for him as a person when he was demanding that the Ring magazine still let him keep his title after his loss to Jermain Taylor.

------------ sonofsis quote: "Many white people suffer from delusions of grander, in they they don't accept responsibility for bring misery to every part of the world they set foot in while pretending that anybody external to their own appreciate their presence or need their dreams to be defined by them." I'm sorry, but that sounds fairly racist to me. But then again, what do I know? I'm outa this thread.

Racial threads pretty much suck. But, sonofsis, you cannot deny that there is a double standard (ie..Hopkins can make a racist statement without condemnation from the media and Calzaghe surely cannot). You don't deny that. You in fact think white people deserve it. That's a fairly racist thing in itself. I think playing the race card by either side is ignorant, inflamatory, and appeals to the basest nature of people on both sides of the spectrum. In short...sonofsis, why call other people racist when you appear to be a racist yourself? Wiley, I'm not racist, so spare me. I actually agree with you and there's no part of my post where I condoned what Hopkins said. Quote where I've even implied it. I told my father about it and he even said it was dumb. The point is that just because Hopkins makes one slick comment doesn't mean it should be open season on black people. Or Maybe the late Dr. Kalid Muhammad was right. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5285318743379859237

Wtf are they supposed to scream when someone says some stereotypical bullshit like that? You tell an individual that who you know doesn't need to be in the situation and is capable of producing their own income. Not an entire ethnicity, it is stupid. How is that like calling someone a "white boy".. Lower on what tests? Culturally biased tests set up in the exact same way no matter the educational resources available to each community built on a recognized legacy of illiteracy rooted in segregation? This is recognized federal law. To disagree with it isn't necessarily racist, but putting emphasis on it as part of a crappy argument is. It's a convenient window of opportunity to express you ill intent and vent about what you're annoyed with. But no one cares about hate mongers. Racism actually does have a lot to do with the disparity in education and how much of a government priority it is in the inner city, including the inheritance of a rotten disposition, and a lack of financial means to get into college. This has been confirmed as it's a cultural issue with African Americans that don't reflect on African immigrants not part of the American legacy. Do African immigrants make the smartest Americans? The question may sound outlandish, but if you were judging by statistics alone, you could find plenty of evidence to back it up. In a side-by-side comparison of 2000 census data by sociologist John R. Logan at the Mumford Center, State University of New York at Albany, black immigrants from Africa average the highest educational attainment of any population group in the country, including whites and Asians. For example, 43.8 percent of African immigrants had achieved a college degree, compared to 42.5 of Asian Americans, 28.9 percent for immigrants from Europe, Russia and Canada, and 23.1 percent of the U.S. population as a whole. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/black_immigrants_an_invisible.html The intra-ethnic homicide rate has more to do with everyone trying to get out of the same shitty place at the same time, like crabs in a bucket. It's an observable cycle not necessarily attributable to anyone in particular, but is an inherited problem. What's racist is to blatantly ignore the sociological explanation for it, which is well defined in current researched and has been covered extensively. I've never heard anyone scream racism for that and this is frowned upon in the black community, stop grasping at straws. Whites kids have to same problem with violent movies, rock n roll, and degenerate pop culture. Black people have a right to own certain words as a part of their culture. They have a right to be inclusive if they're to embrace an identity and I don't see why anyone would not respect someone's wishes when they express that certain words used by certain people are offensive. If it makes black people feel better to take the umph off of it by using it as a term of endearment, who are you to criticize unless you're jealous that you can't go around calling people *****s.? It is racist.. What are you talking about? Many white people suffer from delusions of grander, in they they don't accept responsibility for bring misery to every part of the world they set foot in while pretending that anybody external to their own appreciate their presence or need their dreams to be defined by them. The supposed lie wasn't created by any said black people since none of them came to America lying to anybody. Your vile ancestors lied to everybody else while raping and killing them. Yes you do, hahahaha! It's obvious, Easton, which is why you're intimidated by me and others like me. I've noticed that the fact that I'm a lot more intelligent than you are frightens you. You are among the lower end of your kind. Cop-out.. Anyways.. Why do racists have low IQs? Their prejudice (at least as it is culturally and universally applied) is merely a defense mechanism. White supremacy = modern day racist utilizing European concepts of race. Because he's corrupt. At least the one you're referring to. This makes no sense. The power of the most of the world is controled by a FEW white men, not the majority and not you. The rest are lowly people trying to compete to survive. This is what I mean by delusions of grander, it is hilarious. Your diatribe had nothing to do with Bernard Hopkins, it was about black people. You've merely used Hopkins as an excuse to vent, which is okay, but it has exposed how truly ignorant you are, even when you try to be serious. :lol1: Real racists like you?:) Geeze, some of the white folk who post here are crybabies. And they call "us" sensitive.:rolleyes: :bottle: Racial threads pretty much suck. But, sonofsis, you cannot deny that there is a double standard (ie..Hopkins can make a racist statement without condemnation from the media and Calzaghe surely cannot). You don't deny that. You in fact think white people deserve it. That's a fairly racist thing in itself. I think playing the race card by either side is ignorant, inflamatory, and appeals to the basest nature of people on both sides of the spectrum. In short...sonofsis, why call other people racist when you appear to be a racist yourself?

sitai its always been like that though ...... thats nothing new........ thing is racism can only exist one way.......... white supremacists ........... started the idea of racism......... when blacks have ugly opinions about whites..... its because of the built up hate over the course of the history between them...... lets take color out of it.......... you have person A.... you have person B.... person A enslaves person B's ancestors.... Person A kills person B's ancestors person A tries to deny equal rights for person B.......... Than person A comes to person B and says ...love me......lets have peace? if ur person B what do you do............? You are so wrong its hard to describe...