Stupid Argument, a boxer is at a disadvantage in a Mui Tai Match since he isnt trained for kicks or knee's or elbows. But some boxers have had success in K1 Like Botha, and recently there was a pure boxer fighting a kickboxer and won, cant recall the names.
a pressure fighter would do just fine. those who play on the outside and job, not at all. but short powerful pressure fighters would be a handful for a thai fighter because their defense for punches isnt at that level, while their leg kicks have been taken out the equation
the unfair thing for the boxer is that his best weapons are obviously his hands. they are far more powerful and faster than a thai boxer. but he has them padded, while the thai fighter has his legs and elbows bare. not an equal set up
Being one of few people on this site who have done boxing, thai and mma boxers dnt stand much chance in a thai-boxers world, and the people that say boxers have more power is very silly, because they are both gettin shown how to punch correctly and if they use their punches correct then they will have good power. and about the guy gettin in close, that plays into a thia boxers advantage, cos thai boxers like nothing more than to grab hold of the back of your neck and knee
Mr perfect Ernesto Hoost couldnt even cope with the pressure of sloppy Bob Sapp. and sapp is garbage as we all know.
FYI,
Hoost Vs Sapp weren't using Thai rules so pointing them is irrelevant. Also Bob Sapp isn't a boxer.
Size difference should also be taken in account.
and posting this doesnt prove much imo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLDJ6GeRRh4
but its a muay thai fighter unable to cope with pressure from a boxer. truth is we;ve never seen elite boxer vs elite thai fighter to prove anything
What you underestimate is that up close all the time is possibly the worst place to be, considering thai fighters are all about clinching and throwing knees and bows to the body and head. You'd have to be a big puncher, but one who isn't always inside. Someone like a prime Tyson would have a decent shot to beat one, though thai fighters are not usually that big.
I think lifting your knee in close with a boxer is a very risky idea. a pressure fighter with just a bit of pop doesnt have to land very hard to put that thai fighter on his ass. in close a thai fighter doesnt have the defense to deal with that combos and power of a boxers' puncher if the boxer has the right style imo
many boxers would have their legs chopped off from a distance though
Please stop being delusional. We all love boxing but you should give credit where credit is due.
If talking from your experience is getting leg kick 5 rounds then we may take it into consideration. But if your experience is by watching TV, it's really irrelevant.
My experience is having trained in both, admittedly not to a super high level but I have seen and experienced both sports.
From what I've experienced thai boxing doesn't prepare you for high intensity combinations. You can walk through leg kicks most of the time. The key is to keep up the pressure. I've seen it in thai boxing matches. The guy with the better hands tends to pull away and overwhelm his opponent, regardless of the opponent's kicking ability.
Please stop being delusional. We all love boxing but you should give credit where credit is due.
If talking from your experience is getting leg kick 5 rounds then we may take it into consideration. But if your experience is by watching TV, it's really irrelevant.
From what I've experienced thai boxing doesn't prepare you for high intensity combinations. You can walk through leg kicks most of the time. The key is to keep up the pressure. I've seen it in thai boxing matches. The guy with the better hands tends to pull away and overwhelm his opponent, regardless of the opponent's kicking ability.
From experience a boxer would do better because thai boxers tend to be unable to deal with decent hands.
From you experience? I'm sure you haven't experienced enough.
I've been sparring with world level boxers in Montreal (Lucien Bute, Joachin Alcine, Eric Lucas) and against Muy Thai fighters from the 5 years I've been living there.
Trust me, it's like comparing apple and oranges. As good as comparing MMA to Boxing. When you get too close they lock you into a Muy thai clinch. When you try to get close to them they poke kick you.
But that wasn't the biggest problem. The main problem I found while sparring against Thai fighters is the leg kick. They really hurts! Our boxing stance doesn't offer any defense against leg kick and while sparring with them I had to switch from right to southpaw stance in order to absorb all the leg kick.
All in all, if we are talking Thai rules with the same weight, I would say a Thai fighter would win a fight 8 times out of 10. The opposite would also happen if we take a Thai fighter against a boxer in boxing rules.
From experience a boxer would do better because thai boxers tend to be unable to deal with decent hands.
From what I have seen that isn't the case, boxers get thoroughly owned by leg kicks.
yeah, i think if tyson or tua went to thai boxing, they'd kill a fighter over there. i do feel it's possible for a boxer to defeat a thai boxer. boxers who have quick hands and footwork could do it also.
a pressure fighter would do just fine. those who play on the outside and job, not at all. but short powerful pressure fighters would be a handful for a thai fighter because their defense for punches isnt at that level, while their leg kicks have been taken out the equation
the unfair thing for the boxer is that his best weapons are obviously his hands. they are far more powerful and faster than a thai boxer. but he has them padded, while the thai fighter has his legs and elbows bare. not an equal set up
What you underestimate is that up close all the time is possibly the worst place to be, considering thai fighters are all about clinching and throwing knees and bows to the body and head. You'd have to be a big puncher, but one who isn't always inside. Someone like a prime Tyson would have a decent shot to beat one, though thai fighters are not usually that big.
a pressure fighter would do just fine. those who play on the outside and job, not at all. but short powerful pressure fighters would be a handful for a thai fighter because their defense for punches isnt at that level, while their leg kicks have been taken out the equation
the unfair thing for the boxer is that his best weapons are obviously his hands. they are far more powerful and faster than a thai boxer. but he has them padded, while the thai fighter has his legs and elbows bare. not an equal set up
Possible; yes
Likely; No.
It doesn't really come down to the sport as much as the individual behind it.
People always overlook that fact.
Boxing is an art though, Thai is more of a fight, so if the boxer only uses boxing, the outcome wouldn't be so good for the boxer.... in most cases.
Depends on the quality of the two. Under thai rules, both world class, the thai fighter wins 9/10, barring a big shot or the thai fighter being one who works his hands more than most.